OSSC (DIY video digitizer & scandoubler)

[Seraphic]

You're thinking of digital YUV (YCbCr) and it's variations. Here you can get 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 and since digital media compressed in YCbCr is just 4:2:0, the standard output from a DVD or BD player is YCbCr 4:2:2.

You always have such great information, lol. But with the new optional digital audio output addon for OSSC, I still think I would still would rather use the SCART input for both as it includes audio as well as keep RGB throughout my setup. So guess that leaves me with a scart switch or second OSSC.

[Fudoh]

If you're running through the CII anyway, you can let the CII handle all the audio. I wouldn't even put an audio board on the OSSC in your setup.

[Seraphic]

If you're running through the CII anyway, you can let the CII handle all the audio. I wouldn't even put an audio board on the OSSC in your setup.

I guess it depends on how much the audio add-on board costs.
But since would feed the OSSC into my 4x2 HDMI switch, it would be nice to maintain audio signal as one output goes to TV and other goes to CII.

And would the Sync Strike be a cheap solution to maintain a quality signal to the OSSC's unfiltered HD15/VGA input or is its input the same as output (RGBs in/RGBs out)?
http://arcadeforge.net/Scaler-and-Strik ... e::15.html

[Fudoh]

And would the Sync Strike

doesn't make a difference.

[Nug]

Here we go again! More OSSC invites this morning, if you’re number 746 or under you should have one, if not, get in touch.

Can you approximate when people in the low 4 digit range will be up for purchase?

[BuckoA51]

Can you approximate when people in the low 4 digit range will be up for purchase?

We've now done about 500 invites and sold about 150 units, so yeah you should get an invite mid-week at that rate.

Time for more OSSC invites! If you're number 858 or under you should have had one by now, if not get in touch.

[Einhandr]

Can you approximate when people in the low 4 digit range will be up for purchase?

We've now done about 500 invites and sold about 150 units, so yeah you should get an invite mid-week at that rate.

Time for more OSSC invites! If you're number 858 or under you should have had one by now, if not get in touch.

I had a slight issue with my order so I sent you a PM here regarding it.

[Pasky]

You're selling 100's of these and still using a mailing list. Make a proper store for these.

[Voultar]

You're selling 100's of these and still using a mailing list. Make a proper store for these.

I have to agree, the mailing list (and the convoluted process of finding your number) is completely unintuitive for the this kind of volume..

[bobrocks95]

Especially given the low purchase rate, I think it's clear that a mailing list slot months in advance is a poor choice in hindsight.

[RocketBelt]

I think it's fair that he goes through the formality of the pre order list.
The list will be exhausted soon enough at this rate.

If I was sitting at 800 waiting for my invite, and then found out that the list was abandoned and the units are all gone, I'd be pretty pissed off.

[pyrotek85]

Wasn't there also some production problems (sourcing components I think)? He might not be ready to publicly offer them on a web store just yet.

[lechu]

Man, my number will be coming up soon, but such bad timing. I just ordered the PS4 Pro and won't have money left over this time. Guess I'll have to wait for the next time around. Oh well.

[BuckoA51]

Especially given the low purchase rate, I think it's clear that a mailing list slot months in advance is a poor choice in hindsight.

So you're seriously telling me a mad scramble for units is fairer than working through a waiting list?

I have to agree, the mailing list (and the convoluted process of finding your number) is completely unintuitive for the this kind of volume..

Why do you need to find your number? Just wait for an e-mail and then buy if you want one.

Wasn't there also some production problems (sourcing components I think)? He might not be ready to publicly offer them on a web store just yet.

We're quite ready to do that actually and will do so as soon as everyone on the waiting list has been offered one.

Uptake has picked up quite a bit as we get further down the list, we've done nearly 40 today out of the latest 100.

No doubt however we do this someone will moan and complain

[Fudoh]

You're doing good work here. A waiting list with email notifications is the only viable option. I'm always amazed when I see tech stuff that just isn't available, just because the makers don't care for a proper waiting list. PSIO is a ridiculous example. What's the point in letting hundreds of potential buyers rush onto a website - just to bring it down because it can't handle the load. Same for the N64 HDMI mods, where I wouldn't even know where to look. I have all the patience in the world, but I just don't have the time to wrestle around on message boards and lurk for some buying options to show up somewhere (like with GDEmu or Rhea boards).

I bought a Lynx flash cart just recently (through the Atariage board). Had my name put on the waiting list maybe six months back or so and waited my turn. Paid and now it's on its way. No rush, no hassles. Absolutely positive experience all the way. And not only for the buyers, but certainly for the seller as well.

[BuckoA51]

I just don't have the time to wrestle around on message boards and lurk for some buying options to show up somewhere (like with GDEmu or Rhea boards).

GDEmu is exactly the product that sprang to mind as soon as I started reading your post! I keep missing out on that. N64 HDMI is an interesting one too, we've had people in the USA ask to be on our waiting list and pay more just because we operate a waiting list instead of a mad scramble policy...so if you want one let me know I'll pop you on our list

[Voultar]

Why do you need to find your number? Just wait for an e-mail and then buy if you want one.

Well.. I mean..



The number must be important enough to know, per the newsletter. I'd like to know the number I've been assigned to see where I sit on this list?

The whole point of the number is to see where you sit in the queue, right? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see it generate in an E-mail or anything.

[lolitsevan]

the method to check your number is to find your confirmation email for the newsletter and click 'change subscriber options' and then examine the url.


example:
https://www.videogameperfection.com/new ... rofile&nk=(Your number in the queue)-6f6450bd7d


this should probably be stickied in a more obvious spot though, I only remember seeing it posted on some random page in this thread. maybe there's a way to integrate that number into one of the e-mails?


i agree on using the waiting list though, at least until there's more stock available. the mad dash for the hd-retrovision cables sucked, as an example.

[bobrocks95]

Especially given the low purchase rate, I think it's clear that a mailing list slot months in advance is a poor choice in hindsight.

So you're seriously telling me a mad scramble for units is fairer than working through a waiting list?

Nope, just unsure why you don't take pre-orders in tandem. Keep your list, but have people pay up front instead of having to go through 50 at a time and ask if they'd like to/can buy it at whatever random time the email gets to them months later. It could help you buy more units per production run as well.

That, and surely you plan to put up a store once demand has died down, right?

[Guspaz]

Simple pre-orders seem best: take people's money up-front, announce a cut-off date, and on that date, order as many units as were pre-ordered. Because the money is up-front, you don't need to do smaller batches (like 500) since you've got the funds to order as many as are required, people don't have to wait as long, and it's overall a lot simpler for the customers. This is essentially what Kickstarter acts as for projects that are ready to go into production but need seed money to place the orders.

To be honest, using a mailing list as a waiting queue for orders is strange and error-prone: I almost missed the e-mail telling me my OSSC slot had arrived, and I didn't know what number I was on the list.

[NormalFish]

You're doing good work here. A waiting list with email notifications is the only viable option. I'm always amazed when I see tech stuff that just isn't available, just because the makers don't care for a proper waiting list. PSIO is a ridiculous example. What's the point in letting hundreds of potential buyers rush onto a website - just to bring it down because it can't handle the load. Same for the N64 HDMI mods, where I wouldn't even know where to look. I have all the patience in the world, but I just don't have the time to wrestle around on message boards and lurk for some buying options to show up somewhere (like with GDEmu or Rhea boards).

I bought a Lynx flash cart just recently (through the Atariage board). Had my name put on the waiting list maybe six months back or so and waited my turn. Paid and now it's on its way. No rush, no hassles. Absolutely positive experience all the way. And not only for the buyers, but certainly for the seller as well.

I also think waiting lists are good for this sort of thing, despite understand the desire for preorders.

The fact its tied in to the newsletter and finding your order number is a bit convoluted are kind of odd and obfuscate the process, but the core seems good.

[BuckoA51]

Pre-orders - Most places don't take payments until the items ship these days (think Amazon etc). Then there's people that change their mind (even on Kickstarter). Keeping peoples money like that isn't something I really want to do. I've not looked into the legalities of it, especially regarding tax etc.

this should probably be stickied in a more obvious spot though, I only remember seeing it posted on some random page in this thread. maybe there's a way to integrate that number into one of the e-mails?

The whole point of the number is to see where you sit in the queue, right? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see it generate in an E-mail or anything.

Link was in the latest newsletter and has been posted many times, it's also stickied on the official forums.:- https://www.videogameperfection.com/for ... your-spot/

That, and surely you plan to put up a store once demand has died down, right?

Already in place and ready to go.

The fact its tied in to the newsletter and finding your order number is a bit convoluted are kind of odd and obfuscate the process, but the core seems good.

If you know any Wordpress developers willing to work for free it shouldn't be that difficult to make a plugin to check it automatically, but I didn't feel it was worth spending money on.

Because the money is up-front, you don't need to do smaller batches (like 500)

If we'd waited for enough pre-order money for a batch of 2000 we'd have been waiting longer with peoples money in the bank.

[BuckoA51]

Another set of invites just went out, if you're number 967 or under you should have one by now, if not, get in touch!

[neorichieb1971]

Sounds like it will be put for sale fairly soon.

[Simon Belmont]

Another set of invites just went out, if you're number 967 or under you should have one by now, if not, get in touch!

I'm 1641 in the queue.

I'm really thinking about get the xrgb mini instead? I'm using a awful scart to hdmi atm and need a upscaler quick. I wont wait much longer.

[LDigital]

Wait it out

[Simon Belmont]

Wait it out

Wait until spring or early summer? Don't know if I can mate. Been looking for a alternative.

[bobrocks95]

You could buy a processor that people frequently pair with an OSSC. I hear DVDO units mentioned a lot. That way you can decide if you're satisfied with just it, or want to add an OSSC later when they're more available.

[citrus3000psi]

Another set of invites just went out, if you're number 967 or under you should have one by now, if not, get in touch!

I'm 1641 in the queue.

I'm really thinking about get the xrgb mini instead? I'm using a awful scart to hdmi atm and need a upscaler quick. I wont wait much longer.

Buy the kit and pay for someone to assemble it for you.

[Guspaz]

You could buy a processor that people frequently pair with an OSSC. I hear DVDO units mentioned a lot. That way you can decide if you're satisfied with just it, or want to add an OSSC later when they're more available.

The DVDO units are, from what I've heard, great at normalizing the OSSC output and upscaling to standard 1080p60, but are terrible at handling 240p content. So that may not be a great option.