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[quote="GaijinPunch"]...and kicked. Why do the Aussies call it soccer (other than they turn to America for pop culture)[/quote]

Ok, predominantly carried in the hands. No idea why Aus adopted Soccer as the term, seems weird.

[quote]And for this, non fans of the sport will call them pussies. I have no counter argument for them.[/quote]

"Pussies"? Why? I don't see them being weak, just cheating bastards. 90 minutes of football requires an absolute peak of fitness, have you seen how many kilometres these guys travel in a game? They're remarkable athletes.

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And for this, non fans of the sport will call them (those making the rules) morons. [/quote]

Eh, it's a long running argument. Essentially not wanting to interrupt the flow or natural conditions of the game with technological reliance and interference is the counter. They don't want to remove the referee or linesmen to have an action replay and recorded assessment every time there's a foul.

The inclusion of goal line technology took years, and it's finally proving totally worthwhile, but I don't see them changing the game conditions much further in terms of tech reliance. There is an element of drama and unpredictability that makes the beautiful game what it is, sad but true.

And 'soccer' sounds ass. I always disliked the aberration.

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Skykid wrote:Edit: Why have the quote tags stopped working?
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Skykid wrote:"Pussies"? Why? I don't see them being weak, just cheating bastards.
Never got this either.
antron wrote:Apparently the official name of the sport in English is Association Football, and that some geniuses at Oxford decided that soc was an abbreviation for association. It appears that the homeland of the USA's tounge is at least partially responsible for its adoption of the word "soccer"

And it sounds better :mrgreen:
Oh so that's where it comes from. I've always like the term "soccer" better myself.
In Italy we just call the sport "kick" (calcio). :lol:
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doesn't Australia have its own "australian football" just like America does?
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GaijinPunch wrote:When I say "use the navi" at best they blow a layer of dust off of it, but are more likely to say "I don't use the Navi".
every time I see a GPS mounted in a cab and off and the guy is like, "wait, where the hell is this place," I want to stab something
also, every time I see video replay showing that the ref called fuck-poorly within ten fucking seconds of the call but the ref has no access to that shit, I want to stab something

it's not like US football where you need to spend ages to figure out exactly what offense was committed, you just need to know "is this actually bad y/n"

on the other hand, implementing proper replays just makes it harder to fix matches :lol:
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Skykid wrote:Well let's start by calling it football.
No, let's start by calling it soccer. :wink: Citizens of the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Ireland and some other former British territories call it soccer because in these countries it's not (or historically wasn't) the most popular of the football variants codified in the ninetienth century.
Skykid wrote:Americans call it soccer because you have American Football, a sport where the ball is carried in the hands.
The name football has nothing to do with kicking (vs handling) the ball. The original 1863 FA laws of the game allowed catching the ball in air ('fair catch', law 8 ) by any player. Also no forward pass (law 6), no crossbar (law 4) and no designated goalkeepers.
antron wrote:some geniuses at Oxford decided that soc was an abbreviation for association
Skykid wrote:And 'soccer' sounds ass. I always disliked the aberration.
Be glad they didn't call it asser.
null1024 wrote:on the other hand, implementing proper replays just makes it harder to fix matches
Exactly. That's why FIFA will never allow it. Drama and unpredictability my ass.

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"Pussies"? Why? I don't see them being weak, just cheating bastards. 90 minutes of football requires an absolute peak of fitness, have you seen how many kilometres these guys travel in a game? They're remarkable athletes.
Doesn't always mean "weak"... not the way you're thinking of it. I'd say a non-pussy would play the game fairly, like a man. Man up, and only fall down when he gets a hit worthy of falling down. Not falling down like a pussy when a guy scrapes his leg with a pube.

And yes, I know how athletic they are. It's quite a feat. I run a decent amount for my age (considering I'm a programmer) and I almost keel over most times. I ran 12k in the rain today. How you like dat, pussy?!
Eh, it's a long running argument.
Doesn't mean that they're not addressing it poorly. It was the same thing in the US with American Football. To cut down on the interruptions, each side gets 1 challenge per half. If you lose the challenge (IE, it was a valid call) you are penalized X yards or a down or something.
There is an element of drama and unpredictability that makes the beautiful game what it is, sad but true.
They should just employ more officials to be the main guy's eyes and ears.
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GaijinPunch wrote: They should just employ more officials to be the main guy's eyes and ears.
Actually I've said many a time that if in doubt the referee should utilise the other officials for a second opinion, but in this case nothing would work like guys watching replays because the linesmen aren't looking at fouls - they have their eye always on the last defender.

Part of the issue is that 90 minutes are precious, so each time a potential foul turns up, they want the ref to call on it and continue the game. Referring every case to secondary groups would leave fifteen minutes stoppage time.
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Skykid wrote:
Because the sport is reticent to adapt into greater technologies players will always attempt to deceive the referee's human weakness of only having two eyes and a direct line of sight.
Agree
is too dificult to be a referee in this sport and don't make mistakes in some matches. This sport need technology. Fifa could do it long time ago but they didnt want it.


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also this :mrgreen:
R-Gray 1 wrote: I predict a lots of kung fu kicks and some elbows xd
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Actually I've said many a time that if in doubt the referee should utilise the other officials for a second opinion, but in this case nothing would work like guys watching replays because the linesmen aren't looking at fouls - they have their eye always on the last defender.
Right, that's why I didn't say linesmen. I said other officials. Hundreds of millions are poured into this sport... pay two more per game.
Part of the issue is that 90 minutes are precious, so each time a potential foul turns up, they want the ref to call on it and continue the game. Referring every case to secondary groups would leave fifteen minutes stoppage time.
No it wouldn't. I know you don't live in a free cuntry so have no idea how baseball works. If the umpire or any official can't make a call, they point to the other one to do it, as they've got a better view. Revolutionary, fast, accurate... unfortunately it requires humility which apparently nobody on a soccer pitch is required to have... even if you're not playing.
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R-Gray 1 wrote:
also this :mrgreen:
R-Gray 1 wrote: I predict a lots of kung fu kicks and some elbows xd
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GaijinPunch wrote:I know you don't live in a free cuntry so have no idea how baseball works...
Actually I don't know how baseball works because I don't give a shit about baseball. :mrgreen:

But - funny thing, when I read the free cuntry line I thought you were talking about England lol! :)

Honestly, don't believe the democratic spin doctors too much, they aim to keep you in a comfortable pigeon hole labelled "false sense of independence" until the earth turns to ice.

I've never felt freer anywhere than where I am right now: the hot topic of agreement around the foreigner roundtable last week, in-fact.
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Japan ends up in last in their group and didn't win once. Only one way to regain honor now :P

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Bananamatic wrote:doesn't Australia have its own "australian football" just like America does?
Yes, and it's extremely violent/entertaining!

Watched it a load when I went to Australia, it's awesome.
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But - funny thing, when I read the free cuntry line I thought you were talking about England lol! :)
I was!
I've never felt freer anywhere than where I am right now: the hot topic of agreement around the foreigner roundtable last week, in-fact.
Then they've already won.
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Skykid wrote:Honestly, don't believe the democratic spin doctors too much, they aim to keep you in a comfortable pigeon hole labelled "false sense of independence" until the earth turns to ice.
From the FIFA world cup to conspiracy theories in 9 pages :lol: I agree with your idea though! "USA is the land of freedom" PPfft...

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Skykid wrote:Honestly, don't believe the democratic spin doctors too much, they aim to keep you in a comfortable pigeon hole labelled "false sense of independence" until the earth turns to ice.
From the FIFA world cup to conspiracy theories in 9 pages
Conspiracy theory? That's a simple truth homeboy, no shit.

Enjoyed 2 goals in 4 minutez, but bar Messi I think Argentina are poor. I think unless lucky the quarters are the end of the road.

I do get warm and fuzzy inside thinking about all the small teams getting out of the group stages for the first time, we could be in for some underdog drama.
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d3vak wrote: From the FIFA world cup to conspiracy theories in 9 pages :lol: I agree with your idea though! "USA is the land of freedom" PPfft...
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The USA felt like a prison to me. Its only free if you have shit loads of money and the democracy argument doesn't hold up since they give you two candidates already elected. Ask Jesse Ventura.

The USA is also backwards. You drive on a parkway but park on a driveway.

No wonder you play football with your hands. To say England is stupid for calling soccer, football? Well you would have to be really backwards to have any argument with it, surely?

You can understand why a Brit doesn't exactly get some of the American arguments!!!

The USA is the land of contradictions.. But I guess that works for every nation.. so not picking on the USA here.
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neorichieb1971 wrote:The USA felt like a prison to me.
You were married. ;)
The USA is also backwards. You drive on a parkway but park on a driveway.
It is in places. You lived in the sticks, right? Or at least a red state?
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Too funny GP.

Yeah, was married and lived in the bible belt (KY,IN,MO).
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Good God, I'm American and I couldn't have lived in those places.
Although I am from the bible belt, technically.
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Suarez and by extension Uruguay got owned, it seems. Four months' suspension. Wonder if FIFA will enforce it immediately. edit: yep, press conference says so.
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BIL wrote:Suarez and by extension Uruguay got owned, it seems. Four months' suspension. Wonder if FIFA will enforce it immediately. edit: yep, press conference says so.

Bye bye Uruguay then. They ain't got much else.
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World War 3 about to start. Will be rooting for the underdogs here.
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Really impressed with the US team, they only conceded a single goal against very strong play by the German team. Adios Portugal! :D
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Happy for USA. Difficult match on the rain, it was like slo-mo half the time.

USA surely receive a prize for most hilarious self-inflicted fouls in a single match: one guy trying to get a penalty by colliding with the referee, and then two players on the same side knocking each other out in the second half. :lol:

There was some serious testicle game in the other match when a Portuguese tried to disrobe a Ghana player.

Can someone tell me why the goalkeeper was crying?
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great game Germany vs USA but the Germans were clearly better and controlled the game the whole time.
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