STGT 2k7- Week #3 Poll ('06 2nd Place Week)

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:35 am

The difference between Gunbird and Darius Gaiden is that the extra points will come from survival in GB (2-1 to ALL) while DG's will come from boss milking and the few extra captured captains.

G19: you're thinking of endlessly looping games. Gunbird is about 25-30 minutes total.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:40 am

6.7M all clear bonus

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:41 am

Gavin might have also heard about the guy playing the wrong version of Viper Phase 1, but since the only difference in that version was the looping, his score would be fine so long as he didn't loop it. That was a special case ^_^

Or we could both be wrong =)

-Bridget- · Post by **-Bridget-** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:58 am

Pirate1019 wrote:You call "Kill every enemy" a score system?

I agree that we need to catch a break from the kind of stuff we've had so far, but picking a game without a scoring system and then playing it for score will be a recipe for disaster. Or immense boredom.

Agreed.

If I remember correctly, Viper didnt have much of a scoring system at all (barely played it, could be wrong), which already didnt make too much sense.....

And now, looks like it'll either be a game based entirely on survival, for Gunbird, or Darius, where the route system alone would be annoying, not to mention the holy-crap-I-hate-it "boss milking" *exasperated sigh*.

Gunbird I'd actually give a real attempt.

But Darius? Likely I'd just yell at it for about an hour, break something in the process, and just post whatever score came outta that. I wont do the damn milking. I just wont. I get bored just WATCHING it on assorted superplays for games that require it; DOING it would put me to sleep. Usually I just skip past those parts in vids like that.

It's not a bad game, not at all, but SCORING in that, takes a level of patience I dont even try to have.

So then, my vote is for GUNBIRD.

I've the distinct feeling it wont matter, though.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:01 am

-Bridget- wrote:I've the distinct feeling it wont matter, though.

Only 4 more "it won't matter"s to tie the vote up (accd. to forum votes anyway)

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:04 am

If my lazy ass team would get in here and vote, we could probably tie things up =/

gavin19 · Post by **gavin19** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:20 am

Rob wrote: G19: you're thinking of endlessly looping games. Gunbird is about 25-30 minutes total.

Yeah I think I picked it up from the guy that was mistakenly playing the looping version of VP1.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:28 am

Current Count from digging through the thread (assuming I didn't miss something)...

Vasara= 11
Darius Gaiden= 36
Gunturd... er, -bird= 32
BBA= 6
BBN= 0
Section Z= 1

Edit: I checked again, and I came back with DG-35, and G-30 (now 31 with the vote below my post). So it's somewhere in there

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:33 am

This is a vote. and the vote is for GUNBIRD

themachinist · Post by **themachinist** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:38 am

Close battle. yarr.

Savory · Post by **Savory** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:04 am

Voting for...GUNBIRD

Boric · Post by **Boric** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:19 am

Gunbird vote

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:50 am

Twiddle wrote:I'm more excited about my upcoming terrible game tournament than anything that'll come up in this STGT, I tell you.

I'll sign up. However, we've gotta have a Vasara week :(

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:49 am

Nice avatar Szycag

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:11 am

Gunbird <---- ttly vote

tally-ho! · Post by **tally-ho!** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:25 am

Darius Gaiden of course

Stormrider · Post by **Stormrider** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:30 am

Darius Gaiden

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:56 am

Darius Gaiden

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:58 am

Darius Gaiden

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:59 am

Voting is Closed

Code: Select all

Darius Gaiden  - 43 Votes
Gunbird        - 37 Votes
Vasara         - 11 Votes
Battle Bakraid - 6 Votes
Section Z      - 0 Votes

Play one Darius Gaiden

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:16 am

Is the autofire setting in Taito Memories port faster than the Taito Legends 2 port?
And can another confirm Saturn and PS1 ports have slow autofire?
(compared to TM & TL?)
Also told you can't turn off autofire in PS1 port.

thanks in advance

(if Edge has his own ruling from '06, nevermind)

And if Edge doesn't have a ruling soon, I'll compare autofire of TL2 with rom after work. Couldn't get the game to run beforehand.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:28 am

I'll play via Taito Legends 2 (PAL, PS2)

It is confirmed that the game runs slower than normal, ie it runs 50hz even if you set 60hz.

Please let me know if this issue disqualifies me.

(shucks, I should've voted Gunbird)

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:37 am

Well, I haven't played any versions besides the Saturn one, so I have nothing to relate to, but the Saturn version does have a really slow auto-fire (as in, I can mash quite a bit faster, which... is really quite sad. I can't even mash faster than VP1 in-game auto-fire setting... about even I'd say)

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:02 pm

I don't own a Darius Gaiden port to compare Auto Fire rate. Which would still be pretty difficult. Since there are many ports out there, with possible different auto fire rates.

Therefore I think we might skip the fire-rate restriction. This might handicap the concole-only players a bit. But they could still use external devices to even the conditions. And if I am not mistaken Japanese top players also use cabs with built-in auto-fire buttons.
Even if it makes the game easier than probably designed in the first place. Which is the original argument about the legitimation of auto fire.

But since the majority of the comunity seems not that much concerned about this issue. I think we can also use a free adjustable fire rate, unless it totally breaks the game. I don't think it does that in Darius Gaiden, but if I am mistaken, please say so. That we can add a fire rate restriction.

Any objections? Then speak now or be quiet forever.

EDIT:
A general rule about which ports are legit for the STGT:
All ports (handhelds excluded) are accepted if not otherwise stated. Small differences between the ports is something we can take to get a wider accessibilty. Just ports with heavy differences in regards of scoring (Mars Matrix) are not accepted.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:37 pm

Arvandor wrote:Well, I haven't played any versions besides the Saturn one, so I have nothing to relate to, but the Saturn version does have a really slow auto-fire (as in, I can mash quite a bit faster, which... is really quite sad. I can't even mash faster than VP1 in-game auto-fire setting... about even I'd say)

There's a code to activate autofire for the Saturn version.

GameFAQs wrote:Do the following tricks at the Game Start/Options screen.
Auto rapid fire mode: Press and hold B, and press Y, Right, Left, X, Z, L and R

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:43 pm

Is there anything similar for the PS1 version :/

RyanDG · Post by **RyanDG** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:46 pm

Now I just have to decide which one of like 63,576 versions of this game that I own that I'm going to use to play this week.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:53 pm

I've played arcade, MAME, Raine and Saturn versions of DG. Full autofire seems to be identical on all versions (MAME plus = delay 1, Raine = 30 hz, Saturn = use cheat, arcade = use special circuit set to 30hz). Gameplay is pretty much the same too.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:32 pm

zinger wrote:Saturn = use cheat

What is the cheat? Please share.

EDIT: Nevermind: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/saturn/code/573948.html

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:27 pm

Given that Progear was rudely ripped away from us, it's probably best that DG won. Playing Gunbird after Dragon Blaze last year-- that would be quite a step backwards. And I would have to hear endless complaints about my beloved Psikyo.

Still, I do wish we were playing Gunbird. As someone who loves the Sonic Wings formula, I don't mind that Gunbird barely moves beyond it.

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STGT 2k7- Week #3 Poll ('06 2nd Place Week)

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