Questions that do not deserve a thread

[styrmling]

would using DVI mode on the xrgb mini increase lag? it looks awful using HDMI mode.

[Fudoh]

would using DVI mode on the xrgb mini increase lag? it looks awful using HDMI mode.

no difference to using HDMI mode. But why does DVI look better for you than HDMI ?

[styrmling]

im using d-terminal and its just seems like when you switch to DVI mode something else happens because it just looks so much better like its converting it.

[bobrocks95]

Can't wait to see what happens with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_phase_mode_LCD

100 microsecond response time at 240Hz with no need for overdrive (read: another thing for manufacturers to mess up)? Sign me up.

Anything promising on the non-fixed pixel display front?

[SGGG2]

Are you sure there are any gaming communities that specifically endorse TN panels and not superior display models?

For situations where people really can't be having lag variables than they use a CRT or a really specifically tuned panel. All the PC gamers friends I have who are very serious about gaming or are high level or whatever all use Dell Ultrasharps which are IPS.

I feel like I'm being forced repeat myself; if you want to use nVidia 3D Vision 2 and you prefer Active Steroscopic 3D, your *only* option is a 120hz monitor. Why any competitive FPS gamer would go with a 60hz monitor (limited to 60fps) is beyond me, at 120hz you get TWICE the visual information and *far* better clarity with quick motion and camera pans, leading to an obvious advantage over players using 60hz.

120hz IPS displays are in the pipeline, but I imagine they won't be cheap for a while. However, there are some models which are overclockable: http://www.blurbusters.com/overclock/12 ... -monitors/

[Ed Oscuro]

Does anybody know a source for a Data East classics (Shoot Out, specifically) to JAMMA adapter? I can't do much with the pinout right now, but if there are any special notes on that, it would be nice to know should I ever undertake to build one.

[popn_ponies]

I have a question about my plasma TV even though I know this isn't quite the place for plasma TV talk.

Between my Framemeister, videos and emulators and such my TV gets a lot more use in 4:3 with borders on the side than actual full resolution I think. Because of this there are noticeable light bars where the 4:3 picture would end. Depending on the color being displayed, it might look like there is an entire rectangle on the sides where the brightness is different from the rest of the screen.

I read something about a horizontal scrolling bar fix for plasmas specifically but Jscreenfix full screen couldn't fix this, so I was wondering if anyone had ideas for helping fix this on my TV.

[SGGG2]

I use a "burn in" video whenever I get image retention on my plasma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-KIlsxxOw

Your set might have a similar utility built in.

[Einzelherz]

I've used 1080p youtube burn in videos too. Also, just watch some broadcast TV or 16:9 movies on it in between gaming in 4:3. My screen has a wipe function, with sweeping white and black blobs, but I don't think it does so great.

I got bad burn in from playing FFV last year, but it wasn't the 4:3 bars, it was the white box and text in the combat menu.

[popn_ponies]

I use a "burn in" video whenever I get image retention on my plasma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-KIlsxxOw

Your set might have a similar utility built in.

Ah thanks, i didn't even think to check youtube. My set doesn't have a tool to fix it though. LG so it figures.
I've tried screensavers and playing 16:9 videos for hours and hours but the brightness discrepancy persists.

[beatsgo]

Does anybody know a source for a Data East classics (Shoot Out, specifically) to JAMMA adapter? I can't do much with the pinout right now, but if there are any special notes on that, it would be nice to know should I ever undertake to build one.

Shootout Pinouts from KLOV

[Einzelherz]

I use a "burn in" video whenever I get image retention on my plasma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-KIlsxxOw

Your set might have a similar utility built in.

Ah thanks, i didn't even think to check youtube. My set doesn't have a tool to fix it though. LG so it figures.
I've tried screensavers and playing 16:9 videos for hours and hours but the brightness discrepancy persists.

It took months to clean up the little lines from FFV on mine and I only played about 33 hours through that. They don't go away super fast, sadly.

[Exidna]

I have a question about my plasma TV even though I know this isn't quite the place for plasma TV talk.
Between my Framemeister, videos and emulators and such my TV gets a lot more use in 4:3 with borders on the side than actual full resolution I think. Because of this there are noticeable light bars where the 4:3 picture would end. Depending on the color being displayed, it might look like there is an entire rectangle on the sides where the brightness is different from the rest of the screen.
I read something about a horizontal scrolling bar fix for plasmas specifically but Jscreenfix full screen couldn't fix this, so I was wondering if anyone had ideas for helping fix this on my TV.

Image Retention is a temporary effect where the panel is essentially holding a charge that results in an after-image being displayed.
The horizontal scrolling bars, full R/G/B screens, or displaying an untuned channel can help clear that more quickly.

"Burn-in" is uneven wear of the phosphors (phosphors dim as they are used) which will persist no matter how long you run one of those things.

If you are displaying content with black 4:3 or 21:9 bars on the display, it will eventually wear so that those areas are lighter than the center of the screen, since they have less use.
If you can change the 4:3 bars to something brighter (most plasmas let you select gray) and display a black signal, that should start to "even out" the wear a bit, by aging the sides of the display but not the center.

You have to be very careful with this though. You don't want to run into a situation where, instead of lighter sides of the screen, you end up with two stripes down the middle because your image did not fill the entire 4:3 area.
So "burn-in" on a plasma is technically reversible, though you need to display the inverse of whatever is "burnt" into it to truly revert it. Though even if that is not possible (e.g. HUDs from numerous games layered on top of one another) you should at least be able to generally even it out, even if you can't eliminate it entirely.

[Smashbro29]

As far as older systems go, is cysnc the same as just as having a sync stripper at the end of the chain? I had heard that it was on another site but I always double check here.

[ryu]

As far as older systems go, is cysnc the same as just as having a sync stripper at the end of the chain? I had heard that it was on another site but I always double check here.

Csync means composite video and sync lie on the same line.

A sync stripper removes the composite video from the sync line to give raw sync.

[CkRtech]

Csync means composite video and sync lie on the same line.

No. Csync is "composite sync" or simply "raw sync." The "composite" term of composite sync refers to horizontal sync + vertical sync.

But it look like you basically acknowledged that the sync stripper takes composite video and strips out the sync.

A sync stripper removes the composite video from the sync line to give raw sync.

[Smashbro29]

Right, I had it right (right?) the names for these things are confusing. Thanks though.

http://www.retrorgb.com/sync.html

Many RGB cable sellers offer cables that use the system's composite sync pin (also called "csync") for sync. Cable sellers sometimes call this "raw" or "pure" sync.

I ask because getting raw/pure/whatever its called is the best for upscaling and just having a stripper at the end makes my life a lot easier than tracking how to do mod it per system.

[beatsgo]

Right, I had it right (right?) the names for these things are confusing. Thanks though.

http://www.retrorgb.com/sync.html

Many RGB cable sellers offer cables that use the system's composite sync pin (also called "csync") for sync. Cable sellers sometimes call this "raw" or "pure" sync.

I ask because getting raw/pure/whatever its called is the best for upscaling and just having a stripper at the end makes my life a lot easier than tracking how to do mod it per system.

This is very dependent on your TV, for example my PVM 1943 can handle Composite Video as CSYNC. The reason being CSYNC is preferred because some TVs can't handle filtering out the video data from composite video. That's where these sync strippers does this job and leaves "pure" sync.

[Smashbro29]

This is very dependent on your TV, for example my PVM 1943 can handle Composite Video as CSYNC. The reason being CSYNC is preferred because some TVs can't handle filtering out the video data from composite video. That's where these sync strippers does this job and leaves "pure" sync.

Right but I'm talking about upscaling, I should have probably have mentioned it's for the xrgb-mini but it's become a habit to assume everyone I'm talking to here uses that. My mistake.

[YONKE]

A few days i commented i got a CRT monitor and was having problems of low contrast on the monitor with VGA signal on my xb360 , i just connected my Dreamcast VGA BOX on the same monitor and its looks great , so I'm concerned the problems is the xb360 VGA not the monitor , with the xb360 VGA cable the colors look washed and not sharp at any of the resolutions i have in the xb360 dashboard , i read in the past people complaining on the same but a update fixed the issue, my xb360 its updated. Any of you have problems with the xb360 VGA cable ?

[Fudoh]

The 360 allows you to manually set the luminance range - despite using the VGA connection. Maybe you've set it to limited or medium instead of full range.

[YONKE]

The 360 allows you to manually set the luminance range - despite using the VGA connection. Maybe you've set it to limited or medium instead of full range.

Found out i was using a extension VGA cable ,i remove it and connected directly the xb360 VGA cable to the monitor and it looks better , but still Dreamcast 480p its look way better than Xbox360 480p (Ikaruga & crazy taxi ports for example) .

by the way this CRT monitor has BNC inputs what kind of gaming source i can connect there? just for fun i connected my classic Xbox component cable & xb360 component (i use BNC to RCA converter) and didn't display anything.

[Fudoh]

The DC is notorious for its high signal levels through VGA. On the other hand your 360 uses standard levels - the same as your average graphics card.

The BNC input on your monitor accepts RGBHV signals (plus maybe RGsB), so - using the right cable - you can connect another VGA source.

[bobrocks95]

As a PSA for anyone looking to get any Audio Authority switches in the AVAtrix line- according to them auto select of sources did not work very well, so it was removed entirely in a firmware update. So even if you see them advertised as "auto selecting HD component switches" or something similar (as I did with the 1166 I bought), odds are the feature has been removed.

I'm hoping someone on avsforums might have an old firmware version I can download, as I don't think I've heard anybody complain about AA switches' auto select not working. Maybe the home routing and matrix stuff causes issues, but a few game systems plugged in and turned on one at a time seems unlikely to confuse the device.

[YONKE]

The DC is notorious for its high signal levels through VGA. On the other hand your 360 uses standard levels - the same as your average graphics card.

The BNC input on your monitor accepts RGBHV signals (plus maybe RGsB), so - using the right cable - you can connect another VGA source.

Thanks for your reply, not that i will do this but in theory if i get a vga signal booster the xb360 will get better VGA high signal (as Dreamcast) ? or signal booster its just for long cable distance set ups?

[BazookaBen]

Thanks for your reply, not that i will do this but in theory if i get a vga signal booster the xb360 will get better VGA high signal (as Dreamcast) ? or signal booster its just for long cable distance set ups?

Did you ever change the color settings on your Xbox? I think there's something like limited, standard and full, I'm pretty sure you wanna choose full.

As for your BNC inputs, that accepts the same signal as VGA, as Fudoh said. You can hook up your PS2 with component cables but you have to be in RGB mode and playing a 480p game. In 480p it puts sync on green.

[YONKE]

Did you ever change the color settings on your Xbox? I think there's something like limited, standard and full, I'm pretty sure you wanna choose full.

As for your BNC inputs, that accepts the same signal as VGA, as Fudoh said. You can hook up your PS2 with component cables but you have to be in RGB mode and playing a 480p game. In 480p it puts sync on green.

Yes that setting was already selected , will try RGB whit PS2 to see what happen, Hokuto no Ken will look great forcing it at 480p .

[Fudoh]

The only problem is the system boots in 15khz and with RGBs (which your monitor probably won't be able to show), so you have to memorize how to enable 480p on the game you want to play first.

[JBC]

Would saying, "Yeah, I love the games with the spaceships where you view them from the side or top & shoot the little enemies" in the 90's sound to mature gamers the way that, "Yeah, I love the games with the soldiers where you view them from their eyes or their back & you shoot the little terrorists" sounds to mature gamers now?

Are we just the douches of a previous generation?

[Smashbro29]

Has there been any projects to improve the terrible video output of the Wii? I see them for older systems all the time but it would be interesting to see a project that made Wii's component output not ass.