Thunderforce VI announced by Famitsu for PS2 in 2008

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:57 pm

Observer wrote:I think the veiled message I keep getting is graphically, TFVI looks like a doujin game. That? Perhaps it's that what is irking/bothering some people? Moreover, I just can't shake the feeling that this is Ether Vapor 2.

If there are more scenes where you get chased by missiles and the camera plays some twists... Not that it's bad. I love the over the top Macross-like missile barrages.

It's borrowed directly from the end of stage 1 in TFV. It's just another throwback/homage.

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:21 pm

Observer wrote:I think the veiled message I keep getting is graphically, TFVI looks like a doujin game. That? Perhaps it's that what is irking/bothering some people? Moreover, I just can't shake the feeling that this is Ether Vapor 2.

I've been thinking it looks a lot like Ether Vapor too. It's probably those large spaces seemingly covered by a single texture only - which makes it look a little homemade.

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:17 pm

Makoto Sei wrote:i heard from my friend that work as game reviewer on my city, that he told by his friend from other country THAT had acquainted with internal staff of Tecnosoft, we can expect TF VI as qulity as Gradius V

Sweet

personally I can't wait for some gameplay footage, that's when I think we'll really get an idea of how this will turn out and it shouldn't be that far off considering the release date...

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:20 am

Thunder Force VI looks reasonably good, even if it's a bit below Gradius V in graphics. I'm hoping they got Tsukumo Hyakutaro to do the BGM, but I'd like a new soundtrack instead of just reusing the Broken Thunder tunes.

Makoto Sei · Post by **Makoto Sei** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:47 am

gameoverDude wrote: I'm hoping they got Tsukumo Hyakutaro to do the BGM, but I'd like a new soundtrack instead of just reusing the Broken Thunder tunes.

Can`t agreeing more than you bro.
When i heard that TF VI as quality as Gradius V, it make me relief because it said that TF VI apparently have only 6 stage ? well it will be 6 long stages isn`t ?
But i little bit disappoint because "as quality as Gradius V"... thats it ? no, i think highly for Gradius V ,its very satisfiying (for me), but TF VI that we know will be released this October, that mean couple of years AFTER Gradius V. By those year, i belive video gaming technology has improve far then when the time Gradius V was made... EXCEPT... if the Gradius V it self has already push PS2`s capability to its limit... then i could only shut my mouth and wait for the release date...

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:08 am

Observer wrote:

The stage on the left looks really good, imo. Those clouds in the background look like they're were taken from a painting.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:27 pm

Makoto Sei · Post by **Makoto Sei** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:36 pm

P_HAT wrote:

Damn !! that make me even burn up more !!

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:43 pm

ok where is the secretly taken youtube video.

SeashoreandHorizon · Post by **SeashoreandHorizon** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:06 pm

I want this.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:13 pm

Let's be realistic - this won't be nowhere near Gradius V in quality. A Gradius V appears once in a five years, and it steals the first spot in the best 25 of all time.

That said, this still look like the best news for hories lovers in a long long time.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:00 am

What's with those five-polygon shockwave rings?

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:05 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:What's with those five-polygon shockwave rings?

If you're refering to the image on the right in the above pair... that would be Free Range.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:32 am

Pre-ordered!

I can't wait!

spadgy wrote:Isn't that a contradiction in terms? (Maybe that was intentional!?) If there are so many games worth having for a console, isn't that console worth having by default? I know that if the controller made the games worse or something similar, that would change things, apart from the fact then the games wouldn't be 'worth having' in the first place.

I just can't understand why anybody would dislike a console when they like the games for it. For me, a console is defined by the games, not the machine itself. Or rather, I can't understand disliking or liking a console - it's the catologue of games that's important to me...

Compare and contrast the 6th generation of consoles:

Dreamcast, GameCube, PS2, XBox.

The PS2 is one of the lowest specced console of the lot in terms of relative power (the DC clocks in lower, but CPU MHz aren't the only determining factor). It also insists on spitting most games out at 480i when the others offer 480p as the majority standard (yes, yes, I know the PS2 can do 480p, but Sony really didn't push it as a standard like all the other manufacturers did).

From a development point of view, the PS2 is notorious for being one of the more difficult consoles to write software for, even this far into the device's life. Ignoring the games library, it's a bit of a dog.

I have all 4 consoles, and by far and large I have more games for the PS2 than any of the others (I play shooters and 2D fighters exclusively, so the PS2 wins for catalogue volume). That doesn't change the fact that the console itself is a dog, and that the games could potentially have been better looking (in terms of both graphic quality and output resolution) on any of the other consoles, had the developers/publishers chosen them instead. I'm not getting rid of my PS2 any time soon simply because the games are so great. But it doesn't mean I like the PS2 in and of itself.

SeashoreandHorizon · Post by **SeashoreandHorizon** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:00 am

Since Thunderforce II - V came to the states I really hope this one follows. I have a Japanese PS2 but it's damaged (It was defective the first time I turned it on).. If not though I'll have to buy another one to play this

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:37 pm

Makoto Sei wrote:
gameoverDude wrote: I'm hoping they got Tsukumo Hyakutaro to do the BGM, but I'd like a new soundtrack instead of just reusing the Broken Thunder tunes.
Can`t agreeing more than you bro.
When i heard that TF VI as quality as Gradius V, it make me relief because it said that TF VI apparently have only 6 stage ? well it will be 6 long stages isn`t ?

Six stages? Erm. I don't expect ten stages, but if it's only going to be six- then the stages need to be about Gradius V length. TFV's No Blue stage was disappointing in its length (about 90 seconds long not counting the boss).

It's nice to see the CRAW items look like they do in the other TF games, rather than the green orbs from TFV.

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:40 pm

I think the final boss battle will be the 7th stage like in V.

StoofooEsq · Post by **StoofooEsq** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:34 pm

It'd be funny if they tried something "different" with a final boss stage. Like making it the only top-down segment in the game.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:21 pm

ZeetherKID77 wrote:I think the final boss battle will be the 7th stage like in V.

Well, they specifically said 6 stages.. not 6 + Alpha (which normally denotes a final boss-battle stage).

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:44 am

I don't mean to be disapointing... but based on the screen-shots floating around the Net, this looks more ike a Thunder Force - Compiltaion / Remake of the previous TF titles rather than a new game...

For example:

This dragon Mech looks like the Gorgon stage Boss from Thunder Force III:

These two mechs are similar to the Fire-stage Twin-Bosses from TFIII

This looks almost identical to the 1st level of TFV

Especially this scene where the ship is being chased by missiles and the free-range laser is used to destroy them... that's straight from TFV...

The space-station colony from TFIV...

Still, I'll be sure to buy this

antares · Post by **antares** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:15 am

ST Dragon wrote:I don't mean to be disapointing... but based on the screen-shots floating around the Net, this looks more ike a Thunder Force - Compiltaion / Remake of the previous TF titles rather than a new game...

Yes, but the developers said that the Stages 1-3 will be remakes from previous TF games. Stages 4-6 will be completely new ones then.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:03 pm

Yes, but will there be an epic / tragic story on par to the Thunder Force V story line with awesome FMVs ?

Or will it be a linear mind-less Arcade shoot em up?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:21 pm

Or will it be a linear mind-less Arcade shoot em up?

I vote for this......

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:12 pm

Strider77 wrote:
Or will it be a linear mind-less Arcade shoot em up?
I vote for this......

Well, it would make sense for TFVI not have a proper story-line, as with the conclusion of TFV, the Vastian technology was sent to oblivion by the destruction of the Guardian and the last remaining Gauntlet ship... that really lives no room for a proper continuous story based on the TFV events…

But still I would have hoped that TechnoSoft would have come up with something new that was as epic & tragic as the TFV story & FMV sequences...

By the way, who was the writer of the TFV script? Was he European? The story and FMVs were excellent, more like a sci-fi drama than what you would expect from a simple shmup story and as for that FMV intro in TFV (PS1)… poetry!
Who wrote / created the intro FMVs ?

Is there any chance that we'll see something similar at least?

In the PS-1 TFV disc you can find the following txts as well as some Hi-res wallpapers:

Prologue.txt
Explanat.txt
Final Report.txt

A very interesting read indeed!

Personally I don't like the idea of re-using levels and bosses from previous TF games... it seems to me that TechnoSoft is simply trying to suck dry and capitalize on the TF franchise rather than create and offer a new and original product...

Please correct me if I'm wrong...

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:47 pm

ST Dragon wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong...

We'll do.

ST Dragon wrote:Personally I don't like the idea of re-using levels and bosses from previous TF games... it seems to me that SEGA is simply trying to suck dry and capitalize on the TF franchise rather than create and offer a new and original product...

If you're going to start pointing fingers, at least point them in the right direction.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:55 pm

Kiken wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong...
We'll do.

ST Dragon wrote:Personally I don't like the idea of re-using levels and bosses from previous TF games... it seems to me that SEGA is simply trying to suck dry and capitalize on the TF franchise rather than create and offer a new and original product...
If you're going to start pointing fingers, at least point them in the right direction.

Oh I'm sorry, but I was under the impression that TechnoSoft was actually developing this...
So I take it that none of the original TFV developers are behind TFVI then...?!

I guess that places a tomb-stone to the hope that this will actually be a fresh new TF title…
Especially if you consider some of the horrible previous SEGA remakes on the PS-2 & GBA… Golden Axe, Alien Syndrome, Altered Beast, etc… am I forgetting anything…?

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:35 pm

Late to the party. Awesome news, can't believe this is really going to be released. Of course I'm not expecting it to be Gradius V level of amazing but Makoto Sei's little bit of insider info gives me hope it'll be a good game. Screens look good (don't have a big hang up with first 3 levels being homages, don't want too many camera tricks though) and power up system sounds fine to me so far. Now we just need some levels with decent length.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:36 pm

Golden Axe, Alien Syndrome, Altered Beast, etc… am I forgetting anything…?

yeah... Sega didn't do those, think the company's name was D3. well sega did do altered beast.

how bad was altered beast on PS2 anyway?

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:42 pm

Thanks for clearing that up...

Actually I was refering to Altered Beast for GBA...

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:53 am

Interestingly enough, I read here:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168616

It's you against the ORN Empire once again, and you've got a couple of ships at your disposal to take care of them: the hip blue Phoenix and a revised version of the Rynex that you piloted in Thunder Force IV

Seeing as TFV is the story of the war of humanity against the Guardian's armies (Created from Vastian Technology recovered from the Rynex ship)... where as Thunder Force VI, is in fact continuing the story from where TFIV concluded and should be considered the canonical story line...
So in essence, Thunder Force V could have been called “Thunder Force Gaiden”...

Also, one more interesting plot detail…
The Thunder Force story line shares quite a few similarities with the Gall Force Anime series (especially Gall Force 3 – Stardust Wars to Rhea Gall Force & Earth Chapter). Same here, the humans recover Alien technology from the wreckage of the destroyed Solonoid ship on the moon and from the recovered capsule sent at the end of Gall Force 3 - Stardust War to earth.
Both story lines share elements, like the endless cycle of birth – destruction – rebirth, weapons of mass destruction like the planet destroyers (The beam used by the Guardian’s fleet to destroy the Human western cities is very similar) and the decisive battle of humanity against the Guardian’s armies. There is also a similar AI leader “Gorn” in Rhea Gall Force who makes a similar dialogue about humanities nature with one of the protagonists when she is captured! (Similar to the dialogue of the pilot in TFV with the Guardian)

So, one can wonder of whether the script writer of the TF series, has anything in common with the one that wrote the story of the Gall Force series?