Rob's 91-95 arcade countdown: hidden gem search.

mainpatr1 · Post by **mainpatr1** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:13 am

The credits for Strike Gunner SNES version say Sakae Nakamura is the designer, not Shin.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:05 am

Rob wrote:It is a fish head on a platter. Which makes perfect sense before a stage of generic space shooting. Duh.

Hmm, I did always want a thing called Tuna Sasimi. That is what's on the plate, right?

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:09 am

Rob wrote:#42 Super Spacefortress Macross (Banpresto, 1992)

HEY LOOK, ANOTHER NMK GAME.

By now people should start noticing that any shooter that has a Raizing style medal system but isnt a Raizing game is an NMK game.

Also, collect secret fish heads for 100,000 point bonus.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:13 am

I never would've guessed.

ccovell · Post by **ccovell** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:16 am

For the love of God, please no more Korean shmups!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:13 am

#41 Zed Blade (NMK, 1994)

Very much in the same league as Blazing Star with its "awesome Neo-Geo graphics" and its complete lack of challenge until the final 1-2 stages.

(secretly) co-developed by Treasure

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:20 am

#40 E.D.F. - Earth Defense Force (Jaleco, 1991)

Basic side scrolling shooter where you select one of four weapons before each stage and level them up by destroying enemies. No power ups, no weapon switching during a stage. You can cycle through an increasing number of option formations as you level up, though. A few of these weapons seem like handicaps, like the laser with its pulsing lapses in fire. Even at higher levels some of these weapons seem too weak. The level 3 dungeon theme is great. Hit detection is a little questionable. I prefer the SNES version, to this version's shame.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:21 am

Macaw do you have a boner for NMK games or what

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:25 am

There's like 1-2 decent NMK games. I don't get it.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:37 am

#39 GunNail (NMK, 1993)

Seems as much like a proto-DonPachi as any Toaplan game of the time, if not more so. I don't like DonPachi. Some of it is really cool, like the road crumbling under the boss as it moves along in screen two. Also, some enemy multiplier for people who want to play NMK games for score.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:38 am

Twiddle wrote:Macaw do you have a boner for NMK games

Yes.

Rob wrote:There's like 1-2 decent NMK games. I don't get it.

Awesome NMK games:

Thunder Dragon 2
Rapid Hero
P-47 Aces
Riot

Half-assed NMK games:
The rest (although I do find the macross games among and few others to be decent enough to be worth playing)

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:41 am

Rob wrote:Also, some enemy multiplier

Gunnail is hilarious. The multiplier is higher for the less live you have. So if you want the highest score, then suicide all your lives except your last at the start of each stage.

THE ULTIMATE BALLS REQUIRING SCORE SYSTEM, NOT EVEN THE MANLIEST OF MEN CAN HANDLE IT.

Not even Ketsui comes close.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:44 am

Macaw wrote:The multiplier is higher for the less live you have.

Thanks, I couldn't figure it out. Especially with how often I was slamming the novelty sized hitbox into everything.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:55 am

#38 Nostradamus (Face, 1993)

First, best title screen. A significant improvement over the first Face game on the list. While the first game was a weak stab at a successful formula this game has a little bit of its own style. Dare I say some of the graphics are even inspired. Alien craft shaped like crop circles... explains everything! The one gimmick this game has is a charge attack that doubles as a risky shield before it is released (covers about twice the width of your ship and can be swung front to back - this is needed for some areas of the game). Hitbox could be a little smaller.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:59 am

Zed Blade is a pretty bland game (with a really dumb scoring system), but it's worth mentioning how fantastic the music is. It's some of Manabu's best work I think.

http://bbh.marpirc.net/mp3/Zed%20Blade% ... ck%204.mp3

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:28 am

Rob is secretly rating every game based on hitbox compared to Mars Matrix.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:35 am

What will be #1?

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:47 am

That's the seductive nature of this countdown. It could be anything!

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:48 am

Rob wrote:
shoe-sama wrote:#1 Turbo Force

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:49 am

Watch, it'll be Gallop.

Just to irritate me to the point of intense rage.

splitblkribbon · Post by **splitblkribbon** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:55 am

I think I have only tried about 2 of the games on this list so far

Gemant · Post by **Gemant** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:00 am

boagman wrote:
I know this game probably better than 99.9999% of all people on this planet, with the possible exception of the original team that put it together, and perhaps a guy in Japan. Maybe two. I can probably say with relative safety that if I'm not the best player at it, then I was at one time. I can answer questions about this game that most people wouldn't know, much less even think to *ask*:

1. At what point value do the stars max out, and why does it matter?

2. How does one turn the moving blocks of Stage 6 into moving idols?

3. How does one defeat each and every boss using no bombs?

4. How, in Stage 5, can *both* pickups be gotten from the lava-encased area that quickly erupts by both pickups on opposite sides of the screen?

hello Boagman, I'm the one of two peoples with 100% knowledge in this game in the planet (other people is CORVUSCORAX IMU-AT2 from, Japan). I have the 0,0001% of knowledge that you miss. I know the answer for all your questions.

for exemple:

But, can you answer these questions?

1) how many 1up bonus there are in this game?

2) how many stars there are in this game?

3) how many NOZO bonus item there are in this game?

4) how many "Larva" enemies there are in this game?

5) for score, is important autofire in this game ? yes/no

please aswer.

- For curiosity, which is your better score ?

Because I read this:

I can probably say with relative safety that if I'm not the best player at it, then I was at one time

really? Therefore in past, your score was better of 5.200.000 pts?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:12 am

JoshF wrote:That's the seductive nature of this countdown. It could be anything!

Except, sadly, every Dooyong game. Or is there one more... Yes, I think there is.

I have the 0,0001% of knowledge that you miss.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:17 am

boagman browsing,

Viewpoint throwdown approaching.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:17 am

Rob wrote:Gigantic (Ugly) helicopters and stealth bombers and aircraft carriers appearing in the middle of space.

You forgot to mention the gigantic sailing ship, and two powerups in the first 10 seconds of the actual game (LOLZ)

Edit: Oh, I see. You didn't play it long enough to see all the stuff that shows up at the beginning of that first stage

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:20 am

Rob wrote:boagman browsing,

Viewpoint throwdown approaching.

lol he was browsing like 10 minutes ago then logged off.

I guess he's back for round 2.

Ok he logged off again.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:23 am

Macaw do you have a boner for NMK games or what

that 2nd screen for Nostradamus has a boner for you, Twiddle.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:25 am

shoe-sama wrote: Ok he logged off again.

Psyching himself up.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:26 am

Battlesmurf wrote:
Macaw do you have a boner for NMK games or what

that 2nd screen for Nostradamus has a boner for you, Twiddle.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:27 am

Gemant wrote:- For curiosity, which is your better score ?

Because I read this:

I can probably say with relative safety that if I'm not the best player at it, then I was at one time
really? Therefore in past, your score was better of 5.200.000 pts?