Guspaz wrote:They may say, we did the jailbreak for the NT Mini because it's a premium product, and the Super Nt is a mass-market product so we won't be doing that.
There is a cost to releasing the jailbreak firmware. A lost revenue cost to Kevtris (time spent not being paid doing jailbreak FPGA work is time he could be spent being paid to do future Analogue FPGA work), and a lost opportunity cost to Analogue (their FPGA developer is spending his FPGA development time on something other than their next FPGA product).
Jailbreaking the Super Nt will hurt the sales of the Nt Mini: why pay $500 if you can get much of the same functionality for $190? If the jailbreak includes 16-bit consoles, it would also hurt the sales of any potential future Nt Mini consoles that they make.
Remember, Analogue is not a platform developer. There is no recurring revenue, no licensing fees. They make money off selling you *hardware*. If they make one product that does everything, less people will buy their future products. Kind of like the Osborne effect, only in reverse. The more different pieces of hardware they sell you, the more money they make.
Analogue if leaving the mini to phase out. They are not updating the shell to plastic which would make it more affordable than the Super Nt and there can only be one reason for that: They don't believe it would recoup the cost of having the plastic shell molds made for it. Otherwise why say no to increased sales and profit? Obviously because it will no longer be profitable.
And Analogue screwed themselves over so badly with the nt mini. A black version costs $500, but the Super Nt with a plastic case and a better fpga (and no dac to be fair) costs literally $300 less. That means just the production of that case costs about $300 MORE than the plastic case for the Super Nt. Look at all the views the nt mini gets on youtube, 100,000, 80,000, 50,000. Tons across multiple different videos. Do you know how many they sold? I'm told (based on people comparing serial numbers) that it's around 5,000 total. The reason for that is because $300 for a case is not worth it to the vast majority of the people that were interested in their product. Now they finally have a pricepoint where those 100,000 or so people that were interested in that product might actually buy it.
It's simple math, making $5 from 50,000 people is way better than making $30 from 5,000 people.
bobrocks95 wrote:Wolf_ wrote:bobrocks95 wrote:
What they would lose with a jailbreak is the ability to sell you the Mega NT next year for the same price. And the Turbo NT the year after that. It makes infinitely more business sense to not allow the jailbreak.
No it does not because people wouldn't stand for that. I would certainly swear off analogue forever and I'm sure many others would be outraged with me.
Wolf_ wrote:I never have and never will buy any of the classics. That is exactly the kind of outrage and hate I am talking about. Thank you for highlighting exactly what being a scumbag looks like and the level of hatred it brings upon you. If the classics were Nintendo's only source of income they would be in deep shit with everyone hating them for the one thing they sell. That's exactly why Analogue would be retarded to do the same.
You're right that's exactly why the SNES Classic is selling so extremely poorly. *Everyone* is pissed that they re-used the hardware from the NES Classic. They're most definitely in deep shit over it and the huge boycott proves it!
strygo wrote:Despite Wolf_'s froth on the matter, I personally would much prefer if they released individual consoles for the Genesis and the like. Sure, it costs more money, but doing so helps ensure they are in a position to keep doing excellent work. If you are price sensitive, a Raspberry Pi already gets you 95% of the way there.
I don't think I'm in the market for it, but yeah I'd like to see more 16-bit consoles from them given that they take cartridges. The more consoles with digital connection options available the better.
The classic line might be selling well, but every review of the product mentions that Nintendo falsely creates shortages, scalpers are charging an arm and a leg for it, it has the internals of a mcdonalds toy, ect. No one enjoyed getting a classic. If it didn't sell well and that was the only product Nintendo offered they would have no sympathy in the public to redeem them. That is where Analogue stands. If they make this a single over priced console maybe they'll move 4,999 of them (at the very least I won't be buying one), but they could have knocked it out of the park and sold tens of thousands.
Analogue gives me the impression they are a good company and stand by their customers, saying things like how they want users to be able to do anything they want with the console when asked about the sd slot. I don't believe for a second they plan to go full retard and sink their own battleship by locking out cores on identical hardware in different shells. That's just a dick move and they seem like a decent company albeit with an unnatural fetish for wood and aluminum.
