Shmupmame 4.2: Lagless Mars Matrix, Strikers 1945, Galaga 88

[roker]

so, um, I still have no idea how to do this in Mac and I can't setup a bootcamp partition because of some stupid problem.

help ...

[Zaarock]

so, um, I still have no idea how to do this in Mac and I can't setup a bootcamp partition because of some stupid problem.

help ...

If you want to use UberMAME without command line you could create applescript applications that launch ubermame with the commands you want so youll have applications for each game.


I'll give instructions on how to build official (SDL)MAME modified with nimitz' lagless drivers:

0a) If you dont have xcode, install it from your os x install disk (developer tools)

0b) If you dont have SDL installed: go to http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php and download the .dmg under "Runtime Libraries" then "Mac OS X". When the .dmg opens, use the Finder to drag the SDL.Framework folder into your /Library/Frameworks folder.

1) Download official MAME source (MAME0XXXs.zip) from http://mamedev.org/release.html

2) Download lagless mame source from http://www.mediafire.com/?wmztm5njzmj

3) After opening the zips put the drivers from mame137_lagless15b_source/src/mame/video/ to mame/src/mame/video/ and replace the original files.

4) Open Terminal from applications/utilities and type "cd " (without quotations) and drag the mame folder to the terminal window and then push enter.

5) Enter "make" or "make -j3" for dual-cores and it should build. the makefile will recognize OS and all that by itself.

You'll probably want a frontend to use with SDLmame. I prefer MAME Launcher from nekocan: http://nekocan.sitemix.jp/?page_id=17 Switch the language to english from the last tab in the options. The frontend has pretty much all options you could ever need (apart from available games list, ironically) and looks nice.

[roker]

so, um, I still have no idea how to do this in Mac and I can't setup a bootcamp partition because of some stupid problem.

help ...

If you want to use UberMAME without command line you could create applescript applications that launch ubermame with the commands you want so youll have applications for each game.


I'll give instructions on how to build official (SDL)MAME modified with nimitz' lagless drivers:

0) If you dont have SDL installed: go to http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php and download the .dmg under "Runtime Libraries" then "Mac OS X". When the .dmg opens, use the Finder to drag the SDL.Framework folder into your /Library/Frameworks folder.

1) Download official MAME source (MAME0XXXs.zip) from http://mamedev.org/release.html

2) Download lagless mame source from http://www.mediafire.com/?wmztm5njzmj

3) After opening the zips put the drivers from mame137_lagless15b_source/src/mame/video/ to mame/src/mame/video/ and replace the original files.

4) Open Terminal from applications/utilities and type "cd " (without quotations) and drag the mame source folder to the terminal window and then push enter.

5) Enter "make" or "make -j3" for dual-cores and it should build. the makefile will recognize OS and all that by itself.

You'll probably want a frontend to use with SDLmame. I prefer MAME Launcher from nekocan: http://nekocan.sitemix.jp/?page_id=17 Switch the language to english from the last tab in the options. The frontend has pretty much all options you could ever need (apart from available games list, ironically) and looks nice.

Dude

you're frickin' awesome.

I'll give that a shot later on today!

[cul]

So is there still NO way to set the autofire button on games like dodonpachi? When I bind the third button in any MAME build without custom button I just CAN'T use an autofire button. That's why I play on MAMEplus.

I don't feel like mashing the fire button to play really.

[sikraiken]

So is there still NO way to set the autofire button on games like dodonpachi? When I bind the third button in any MAME build without custom button I just CAN'T use an autofire button. That's why I play on MAMEplus.

I don't feel like mashing the fire button to play really.

C-Auto?

[emphatic]

So is there still NO way to set the autofire button on games like dodonpachi? When I bind the third button in any MAME build without custom button I just CAN'T use an autofire button. That's why I play on MAMEplus.

I don't feel like mashing the fire button to play really.

C-Auto?

Hold F2 to enter the service menu in DDP where you can set the dip to C Full Auto.

[roker]

5) Enter "make" or "make -j3" for dual-cores and it should build. the makefile will recognize OS and all that by itself.

this step doesn't work.

[cul]

So is there still NO way to set the autofire button on games like dodonpachi? When I bind the third button in any MAME build without custom button I just CAN'T use an autofire button. That's why I play on MAMEplus.

I don't feel like mashing the fire button to play really.

C-Auto?

Hold F2 to enter the service menu in DDP where you can set the dip to C Full Auto.

Just tried on DDP, nearly one credited it. This is awesome :U

[Zaarock]

5) Enter "make" or "make -j3" for dual-cores and it should build. the makefile will recognize OS and all that by itself.

this step doesn't work.

What error does it give out? Then again, I guess I wrote the fourth step a bit weird.. drag the folder called mame that was unarchived from mame.zip into terminal, not the src folder.

[roker]

tried again:


rokers-macbook:mame rokerij$ make -j3
-bash: make: command not found
rokers-macbook:mame rokerij$ make
-bash: make: command not found
rokers-macbook:mame rokerij$

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just to clarify, I moved the mame 1.38 file to applications and renamed it to mame

[trap15]

roker, you should just use the UberMAME binary, it'd be a lot easier for you, I'm sure

[roker]

roker, you should just use the UberMAME binary, it'd be a lot easier for you, I'm sure

if it works on Mac, then I'm game.

[trap15]

Yup, go to http://raidenii.net/files/binaries/ and follow the readme on the page (if you're on 64bit, get osx64.zip, or if you're on 32bit or don't know which you're on, get osx32.zip)
Then you should be all set

[Zaarock]

roker: oops, I forgot you need to have xcode installed from your mac os x install disc.. I keep forgetting that some people dont have it

Ubermame seems great but might be hard to get used to because there are no frontends for it. But yeah, you could just use applescript or such.

[roker]

Yup, go to http://raidenii.net/files/binaries/ and follow the readme on the page (if you're on 64bit, get osx64.zip, or if you're on 32bit or don't know which you're on, get osx32.zip)
Then you should be all set

Here's the only thing that page says:



Download the appropriate archive for your machine, and extract it. Then download
common.zip and extract it into the directory the archive created.


no readme file in sight!

[trap15]

no, that page _is_ the readme
The appropriate archive for your machine is osx32.zip or osx64.zip

[roker]

I give up ...


on life

[drunken starsailor]

This helps so much. Thank you to everyone who helped make this.

The change in Guwange is so great, that I no longer have to worry about bombing to carry over my chain to the cat-spider. Also, the last boss' final form is much easier to concentrate on. Thanks again.

[MachineAres 1CC]

I'm a little confused as to how this actually operates? Does it have its own mame.exe file and can it still run other non-shmup games as well? I may want to use this on my standup cabinet since I still have 135 on there and there's a bunch of games that won't even start up and good builds of later MAME versions after 135 seem hard to find. 139 is out now, but I believe this shmupmame uses 137? I'll try to mess with this tonight or tomorrow when I get home.

[xris]

I have just gotten a new pc (windows xp, not really comfortable with the platform yet) And this is the first time I am downloading mame. I would like to be able to get set up and familiar with it in time for STGT. If someone one would like to save the day, and send me a pm. That would be fantastic. Please and thank you wrapped together.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

PM sent,

im 99% sure that torrent link ive sent is the same rom pack i DLed for shmupmame. Due to its age it might take a while to DL the whole lot so just grab the Cave ones first as they have those much needed but rare eeproms in them. (EDIT fyi you can use your torrent program eg bittorrent Utorrent etc to only download sellected files instead of having to DL the whole lot if you only need a small bit of it)

EDIT plus on that page ive PMed check out the related torrents as i believe one or more of them has files for updating or rolling back the roms to different rom / mame revisions

[xris]

Thanks for the help. Not really going so well though.. Stoopid mame.. I'm going to try and get an older version up and running first. Checked the faqs, watched a couple of videos, alas no games. I'm going to try and get some help at a mame forum. Even their guide for idiots didn't work out so well.. I've been working on this for hours, and now I'm frustrated and tired. At least I have some time to try and get this going for STGT.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

You shoud be able to get many of the roms found on those rom sharing sites to run on a pre 136 version of MAME, But for the later versions of MAME including the shmupMAMEs youll need a 137 romset off a torrent as there are no direct downloads of them (unless one has been added in the last month or so since i last checked)

these sort of sites are usefull for making sure the roms have all the correct files they need for the version of MAME your running
http://www.arcadehits.net/datObase/rom. ... onpach#crc
http://www.mamedb.com.ar/game_info/guwange/
http://maws.mameworld.info/minimaws/set/ddonpach

[nimitz]

Just a quick post to see if anyone would be interested in seeing those drivers added into lagless mame (I found the code for them so it would only be a matter of converting it to mame99 code)


nmk16 : Bio-ship paladin, Gunnail, Thunder Dragon 2, Rapid Hero (and quite a bit of low budget shmups)

Irem m72 : R-type, R-type 2, ninja spirit, X-multiply, Air duel, Gallop, Image fight

Irem m92 : R-type Leo, Mystic Riders, In the hunt, Gunforce 1 and 2

Konami drivers : Gradius II, Parodius, Detana Twinbee, Trigon, Sunset riders

seibu SPI : Viper phase 1, Raiden fighters series

Others : Gun Frontier, Raiden

[trap15]

I'd appreciate all of those, but of the ones I'd like to see most, I'd choose m72; Konami, spi, and of course Raiden

[TLB]

m72 and m92 pwease

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Im gonna be greedy and say all, cos each driver has atleast 1 major shmup in it

[Obiwanshinobi]

A rhetorical question, isn't it? Most stuff on that list seems either not perfectly emulated, or not too laggy as it is, but any improvement would be welcome. Does Task Force Harrier run on that nmk16 thing? That one really is at least one frame too laggy for my liking (and up there with Garegga on the "would play more if only..." in my book).
P.S. Seems so. Bring it on, then.

[KBZ]

I assume these wont run on 64 bit windows 7?

[TrevHead (TVR)]

I assume these wont run on 64 bit windows 7?

If you you mean the 2 ShmupMAMESs then yes they do run on win 7 64bit as that is what im running.