Extron Emotia GX Operating Instructions

[Fudoh]

termination switch on the back ?

[Beaps]

clever cloggs

Break out the Gin, its looks FANTASTIC!!!

[Nam]

Wow wow wow - put the horses back in the shed, trouble at the mill?

The screen in to bright now, lol

Wear sun glasses.

I'm colour blind and afflicted with number dyslexia so shouldn't have any problems wiring my psu.

[Xyga]

Good suspense ! Congratulations.

Now pics or it didn't happen.

[Beaps]

Gonna stick a YT vid up later on, but here is a couple oh pics

[fagin]

Invoice is in the post for £100 per hour consultancy charges!

[Xyga]

Looking sweet. What are the chances of scoring a GX on evilBay today ?

[Fudoh]

The GXs are really hard to find. Emotia or Super Emotia - much easier, especially without a PSU. I doubt that you'd have to wait longer than a month to score one.

[Xyga]

I see.
If I understood your article correctly the GX is the only standalone Extron downconverters without the 'misalignment' issue right ?

[Fudoh]

Yes, but there are multiple GX board revisions as well (recently I saw a GX with the same alignment as the Non-GX models). And depending on your source (MAME or windows in general), it's an easy fix with a simple setting.

[Xyga]

Thanks, looks like there are no plug-and-play solutions in this world.
Well 'almost'.

[StarCreator]

So as of yesterday I own an Egret 2. Toying with the idea of some sort of downscaler to play Dreamcast/Xbox 360 games on it without a monitor swap and the Emotia was the name I remember hearing for this purpose. Is this still the recommended route to go, and what's the best route to obtain one these days? I skimmed this thread and someone a while back suggested something from user viletim but I wasn't sure if that was a downscaling solution or just a SCART-JAMMA adapter.

[Fudoh]

All the downscaling solutions are listed here: http://scanlines.hazard-city.de/

If you want 24khz as well you might prefer a UVC over an Emotia unit.

[Monstermug]

I got my one for sale in the trading section if anybody is interested? turns out that I didn't need mine. (insert facepalm smiley here)

[StarCreator]

All the downscaling solutions are listed here: http://scanlines.hazard-city.de/

If you want 24khz as well you might prefer a UVC over an Emotia unit.

Interesting, a lot to read there. I didn't even know 384p was an option! But as you say, it looks pretty much impossible to obtain a UVC right now, and MIMO's website didn't load when I tried it either.

I got my one for sale in the trading section if anybody is interested? turns out that I didn't need mine. (insert facepalm smiley here)

Pending interest; sent you a PM but need to know how much international shipping will run. Also, I don't suppose the power leads provided over JAMMA would be enough to power it?

[Fudoh]

MIMO recently changed servers, maybe they have some downtime. The Genius II is pretty expensive and 384p looks better on the UVC. UVCs are rare, but if you create a wanted thread here on the board, it should just be a matter of weeks. An UVC is between 100 and 130 EUR, while a Genius II is 250+ EUR.

Monstermug's offer seems like a solid alternative. You can easily resell the Emotia when you find an UVC (if you want 384p).

[StarCreator]

MIMO recently changed servers, maybe they have some downtime. The Genius II is pretty expensive and 384p looks better on the UVC. UVCs are rare, but if you create a wanted thread here on the board, it should just be a matter of weeks. An UVC is between 100 and 130 EUR, while a Genius II is 250+ EUR.

Monstermug's offer seems like a solid alternative. You can easily resell the Emotia when you find an UVC (if you want 384p).

Thanks, I think I will do just that. Any ideas on powering the Emotia (and the UVC) directly from JAMMA? If I go this route, my cabinet's power supply will essentially be left powering only the monitor and I'd think it should be able to handle powering an upscaler if the voltage is compatible...?

[Fudoh]

no idea, but an Emotia certainly does not require more power than your average PCB. BUT you require a -12V line and don't think that's standard on any arcade PSU.

[fagin]

no idea, but an Emotia certainly does not require more power than your average PCB. BUT you require a -12V line and don't think that's standard on any arcade PSU.

-12v is not part of the JAMMA spec that's for sure.

[Beaps]

Yer there is no -12 on a Jamma edge as fagin pointed out

[Beaps]

OK so I gotta'nother question for you guys....

Can I hook a PS2 up to the Extron. I mean if I use Component out, is there a Component to VGA converter so I can slap it in Extron?

[Fudoh]

There are transcoders available, but the PS2 always boots up in 480i and only selected titles support 480p. You'd have to switch them into 480p mode blindly. So to universally connect connect a PS2 to an Emotia, you'd need a lindoubler in between, something like an iScan Pro.

PS2 > iScan Pro > Emotia > Jamma.

[Beaps]

OK so my quest for an iScan Pro begins lol

[Fudoh]

that's just an example, when you down convert to 240p afterwards anyway, deinterlacing quality isn't this important, so any HDBox Pro clone with component in and VGA ouput would work for you.

For example: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro%C2%AE-AV ... ponent+vga

[Beaps]

Is there any lag with any of them mate?

[Fudoh]

Yes, all of them about 2 frames. The HD+ (to answer your other question) works as well, but it's very large 19" machine. so nothing you can easily store away in your cab.

[fagin]

Fudoh,
I get asked this very question quite often and never have a definite answer (cause I don't know 100%).... if you use a HDBOX type device, do you still get 2 frames of lag, even if you're only effectively transcoding (same input and output resolution)?

[Fudoh]

No. I think I tested this once. For progressive signals the deinterlacing is just being shut off. It probably doesn't matter if you us 480p or 1080p output. Unfortunately you're not 100% transcoding when going from 480p YUV to 480p VGA. I remember trying a scanling overlay and I think the upper part of the screen was a match but the lower end was 1 line off, which suggests, that the signal is still running through the scaling engine.

[fagin]

Sorry.... is that "no" there is not 2 frames of lag in this situation?

[Fudoh]

no, I THINK you don't get the same 2 frames of lag, but it's considerably faster when feeding progressive 31khz signals