Shooting Game Tournament 2008 Theme Weeks and possible Rules

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:22 am

Icarus wrote:
Twiddle wrote:sik wouldn't
But he's an alien creature, so that doesn't count.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:12 pm

Rob wrote:Cute'em up would probably be easiest and make about five people really happy.

I think there are six of us who openly acknowledge as much. Everyone else is a closet cute-em-up fan. What's not to like?!?!?

overkill55 · Post by **overkill55** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:56 pm

Holy shit Coop, make banners ASAP!

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:46 pm

I'm amazing.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:56 pm

I like them, to be honest.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:57 pm

Zebra Airforce wrote:I'm amazing.

yup

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:42 pm

Zebra you just killed overkill. Do it again!

and stop saving as a jpeg

overkill55 · Post by **overkill55** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:47 am

Zebra Airforce wrote:I'm amazing.

At making terrible banners? You sure are.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:49 am

overkill55 wrote:At making terrible banners? You sure are.

MSPaint banners for the win.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:50 am

I have too many good images to use but they're not ws because they involve a familiar milky fluid on the frontal features of a human head

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:53 am

Twiddle wrote:I have too many good images to use but they're not ws because they involve a familiar milky fluid on the frontal features of a human head

I'm sure we can still fit Metal Black in

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:33 am

I have some internal stuff that would work great for X Multiply.

At making terrible banners? You sure are.

Meaby yuo are a dumm face!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:45 pm

/r/ that JoshF and Zebra Airforce make each and every banner.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:52 am

At making terrible banners? You sure are.

Not enough ripped sprite swarms for you hmmmmmmmmmmm?

Also what?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:59 am

Varth needs to be in Capcom week. There are games as long (or nearly) in that list and the scoring elements are a lot better than a lot of things in the list.

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:05 pm

I edited the first post with a tentative list of weeks and games. I tried discussing the list with Sikraiken and Twiddle (over a super duper top secret forum!), but they never responded so I might as well open the list up for mass bitching instead.

Rob: I threw Varth in Capcom week for now.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:37 pm

Yeah, sorry about that. I'll say more about Varth within the next 24 hours.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:45 pm

No Eco Fighters?

YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT YOU SCUM!

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:47 pm

Sik: I have nothing against taking Varth out, but what would possibly replace it?

I just messed around with Macross 2 some more. It turns out there is a graphics glitch in medium course, but it doesn't occur until the final boss, and the game is still very playable at that point (even if it does look messed up)

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:49 pm

The problem with this week is that Progear would almost definitely win

I think you can rest easy on this one. Garegga places very high in the top 25 (#4), ESP Ra.De. is also popular.

About Varth:

-A game being selected doesn't mean people have to finish it. It's the score that counts, and there are plenty of ways of boosting it and increasing the difficulty at stage 1 (no shield, no bomb bonuses).

-Play fewer games of it.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:49 pm

2x Cave in Famous Manic, and one in Caravan Week?
Favouritism, much?

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:51 pm

We want Hudson. Or something.

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:22 pm

After playing some more Varth, I have to agree with Rob. Varth has a lot of good risk/reward tradeoffs that make it a good game for scoring. Also, I don't know how someone can live without pods past the first few stages

I don't think length is a huge concern for the game because the stages are short, varied, and action-packed, and the scoring seems pretty even throughout the game (can someone confirm there are no/merely a small end game bonus?)

Icarus: Only one of the Cave games is being picked Manic week

. I didn't really pick up on Dangun being a Cave game (even though I already knew it was one). I guess because Dangun was meant for Caravan week, and it's the most un-Cave Cave game.

If worse comes to worse, I can switch ESP.Ra.De for Raiden Fighters Jet, and put Thunder Dragon II in RFJ's place for the fourth week.

Also, if I was really being a favoritist, I'd wedge Mahou Daisakusen somewhere. Don't ask me why, I really like that game.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:42 pm

mikwuyma wrote:Icarus: Only one of the Cave games is being picked Manic week

Oh? ^_-

mikwuyma wrote:Famous Manic Week A.K.A. Cave and Raizing, because that's all people really want in the end .

-Progear <---
-ESP.Rade <---
-Battle Garegga

LOL.
Drop Progear though.

mikwuyma wrote:If worse comes to worse, I can switch ESP.Ra.De for Raiden Fighters Jet, and put Thunder Dragon II in RFJ's place for the fourth week.

Fourth week is fine. Forget about Thunder Dragon 2, and in Progear's place in week 5 put Batsugun Special (in which case, rename week 5 "Toaplan and Family Week"). Sorted.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 pm

Icarus wrote:
mikwuyma wrote:Famous Manic Week A.K.A. Cave and Raizing, because that's all people really want in the end .

-Progear <---
-ESP.Rade <---
-Battle Garegga
LOL.
Drop Progear though.

I'd say drop ESP.Rade. People have been asking for Progear in various contests for a while now. Plus, it would be nice to keep the few horis chosen in the contest, since it's already so vert heavy.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:05 pm

The Coop wrote:Plus, it would be nice to keep the few horis chosen in the contest, since it's already so vert heavy.

Needs Hyper Duel for comedy.

spongdangly · Post by **spongdangly** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:06 pm

The Coop wrote:I'd say drop ESP.Rade. People have been asking for Progear in various contests for a while now. Plus, it would be nice to keep the few horis chosen in the contest, since it's already so vert heavy.

I'm gonna have to agree with my teammate here. I'd suggest DonPachi instead of ESP.Rade though. The scoring system may be somewhat based on chaining, but it's very hard to get huge chains in the game.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:06 pm

Rob wrote:Needs Hyper Duel for comedy.

And Gokujyou Parodius.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:18 pm

The Coop wrote:I'd say drop ESP.Rade. People have been asking for Progear in various contests for a while now. Plus, it would be nice to keep the few horis chosen in the contest, since it's already so vert heavy.

Agreed. Even if it is going to be the one hori in the tournament.

mikwuyma · Post by **mikwuyma** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:06 am

Icarus: If I'm dropping a Cave game, it's going to be ESP.Ra.De. Progear is more popular than ESP.Ra.De, and doesn't have a ton of milking (though I'll admit the scoring system does have its problems). Does Batsugun Special work well enough in mame? Is there anything that could potentially make it unplayable?

Coop and LGB: Okay, I'll throw out ESP.Rade. Just out of curiousity, what are some other good hori shooters? You guys might have posted some earlier, but I was probably too lazy to look :-/