Blade Runner 2049

[Obiwanshinobi]

Last time I heard of Atari was when they produced DRIV3R, so it doesn't seem that bad out of a sudden.

[wgogh]

Atari has one of the coolest logos at least.

[BrianC]

At least the better Natsume company has Atari in the name now.

[MintyTheCat]

If he was a replicant, shouldnt he be dead by now? Hope theres a good explanation.

Prototype with no 4-year life span. Zing!

That's makes perfect sense but well, would it be too cheesy that they'd make Decker 'the one'? I am getting ahead of myself - I simply need to see it for myself. I think matching the mood and atmosphere matters a great deal. I virtually never go to the cinema but if it is a pile of shite this will bolster my '...nothing good since..' maxim

I have read most of PKD's works but I have not read any of the books that were derived from the film. Any one read any of them and if so are they worth reading?
The book "Do Androids.." is not that close to the film I would say.

[GaijinPunch]

I have read most of PKD's works but I have not read any of the books that were derived from the film. Any one read any of them and if so are they worth reading?
The book "Do Androids.." is not that close to the film I would say.

I read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep in the mid-90's. I recall very little from it, but also recall it doing almost nothing for me. Also note, I'm a pretty poor reader, so if something does grab me early on, I drift. I'm better now in my old age (oddly enough) but still suck for the most part.

[MintyTheCat]

I have read most of PKD's works but I have not read any of the books that were derived from the film. Any one read any of them and if so are they worth reading?
The book "Do Androids.." is not that close to the film I would say.

I read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep in the mid-90's. I recall very little from it, but also recall it doing almost nothing for me. Also note, I'm a pretty poor reader, so if something does grab me early on, I drift. I'm better now in my old age (oddly enough) but still suck for the most part.

In the book DADoES the Earth is largely already depopulated with many having left leaving the infirm and others. It has the theme of what is genuine and real though with Decker working as a Blade-Runner to track down and kill replicants to allow him to buy a real sheep. It is not by any stretch PKD's best novel. Cantata is much better and does not touch any of his finer novels. The book just conveys this impression of everything crumbling to bits.

Have a read of PKD's The Man in the High Castle - one of his best to start with. Avoid Valis as a starter as it's very heavy.

[schnuth]

I read Ubik not too long ago and really enjoyed it. I'd recommend that one too.

[Obiwanshinobi]

I appreciate A Scanner Darkly and Second Variety somewhat, but the rest I've read had left me indifferent.

[MintyTheCat]

I read Ubik not too long ago and really enjoyed it. I'd recommend that one too.

Yes, that's a good one to start with too. PKD was eons ahead of his time. He was not so much 'out there scifi' but something closer to normal living really. I regard Gibson as a much watered-down writer in comparison to PKD and the man could write. If you look as Asimov's output or King's the quality of writing is variable but not so with PKD.

[MintyTheCat]

I appreciate A Scanner Darkly and Second Variety somewhat, but the rest I've read left me indifferent.

Very good book yes. PKD rested much of his insight from the 60s and 70s that he witnessed around him and sort of projected into the future and what we have now as 'designer drugs' just taken to their conclusion. It's a very good book.

[Obiwanshinobi]

This may seem far-fetched a comparison, but Love Exposure I ended up watching last night reminds me of A Scanner Darkly in places, or should I say - both remind me of certain fellow human beings I kind of wish were still around, but found myself unable to really help them.
Such kind of thing rarely seems reflected upon with the emotion I feel it lacks most.

[Mischief Maker]

Electric Sheep suffers because it has a completely different theme compared to the movie,

Spoiler

One in which the replicants are arguably the bad guys.

...leaving fans of the movie confused.

It's basically about religion as a coping method.

[scrilla4rella]

I thought DADoES was great. I can't help but read the worshiped media personality of Buster Friendly as analogous to the vapid youtube personalities that we have today.

The whole wasteland setting of the novel seems reflected in some scenes from 2049's trailer.

[Joe T.]

Just saw this tonight and can't believe I'm going to say that I really liked it.

[GaijinPunch]

Just saw this tonight and can't believe I'm going to say that I really liked it.

Good sound system where you went? The dick faces at the theater I went to loaded up Kingsman... no joke got 3 minutes in before they switched. Didn't kill the mood I suppose, but the crowd was a bit rowdy.

[Joe T.]

Just saw this tonight and can't believe I'm going to say that I really liked it.

Good sound system where you went? The dick faces at the theater I went to loaded up Kingsman... no joke got 3 minutes in before they switched. Didn't kill the mood I suppose, but the crowd was a bit rowdy.

Funny you mention the sound, which was decent, but the theatre I saw it is an old shriner temple (they even have an organist playing prior to the shows), and the acoustics are kind of weird in there. The bass was causing some crazy distortion at times that kind of sounded good even though unintentional.

[GaijinPunch]

Just saw this tonight and can't believe I'm going to say that I really liked it.

Good sound system where you went? The dick faces at the theater I went to loaded up Kingsman... no joke got 3 minutes in before they switched. Didn't kill the mood I suppose, but the crowd was a bit rowdy.

Funny you mention the sound, which was decent, but the theatre I saw it is an old shriner temple (they even have an organist playing prior to the shows), and the acoustics are kind of weird in there. The bass was causing some crazy distortion at times that kind of sounded good even though unintentional.

I've saw Akira a couple of times w/ an auxillary (small club-worthy) sound system and never "saw" anything wrong w/ the screen. Last night, the screen vibrated a few times. Maybe it's the size? Setup? Dunno... but sometimes you gotta shake da screen I guess.

[Strider77]

Blade Runner 2049... I left the theater feeling this is for sci-fi as Fury Road was for action movies.

I can't believe in 2017 I see a return of an old franchise that isn't a reboot, but is a sequel that actually manages to live up to its predecessor. Following up Blade Runner and it actually living up to that task sounds highly unlikely, but it happened.

It's thoughtful and continues to explore and take those themes further. Blade Runner built a world, this fills in the rest of that universe. Easily movie of the year for me personally. This movie actually has food for thought. It has suck with me ever since I left the theater.

[GaijinPunch]

Spoiler

The name of K's building is "Mobius 21", and on the roof the sign was "Mobius Aparments". Do we think that's a hit tip?

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Finally checked out the proper sequel of Blade Runner 2049 today (10/6/2017) in Real D 3D with Dolby Atmos surround sound upgrade (it really amps up the bass effects during certain scenes) -- it meant having to wait a mere 35 years later to see it though. Hopefully, the next BR sequel won't take as long (assuming if it gets "greenlit"). With an estimated $185,000,000 USD production budget according to imdb.com, it shows with the intricate and lavish special EFXs (with the usage of holograms, subtle use of both lighting and innovative motion shadowing EFX, physical props and more) giving rise to a fully realized world/mythos that is BR 2049.

Both Benjamin Wallfisch and Hans Zimmer did the BGM/score for this BR 2049 sequel (that pays tribute to Vangelis' music used in the original BR flick).

Considering that the world of BR 2049 takes place on June 30th, 2049 and the two days afterwards, it truly transcends the high bar already set with the first BR film being a detective noir film. The sequel delves into some striking revelations that are revealed later on as the movie progresses to it's eventual conclusion. View the film & find out what they are for your own persual. Clocking at an impressive 163 minutes in duration (or 2 hours & 43 minutes), it delivers in spades.

The hard-core BR fans will not be disappointed -- to say that fellow shmupper Skykid's prediction of this newfangled BR 2049 sequel being a disappointment is wrong on all accounts. It's quite rare to have a proper cyberpunk sequel that eclipses the high bar already set in the 1982 BR cult film classic.

I wouldn't be surprised if BR 2049 garners some Oscar award nominations in time for the upcoming February 2018 Academy Awards show. We'll see.

Easter Egg visual treat: Look closely at the brand name on the old-school hologram jukebox -- what high-profile company manufactured it during the olden days of the pre-2022 era/timeline?

Also, what famous automobile manufacturer makes the current-gen police spinners shown in BR 2049?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Zen]

Finally checked out the proper sequel of Blade Runner 2049 today (10/6/2017) in Real D 3D with Dolby Atmos surround sound upgrade (it really amps up the bass effects during certain scenes) -- it meant having to wait a mere 35 years later to see it though. Hopefully, the next BR sequel won't take as long (assuming if it gets "greenlit"). With an estimated $185,000,000 USD production budget according to imdb.com, it shows with the intricate and lavish special EFXs (with the usage of holograms, subtle use of both lighting and innovative motion shadowing EFX, physical props and more) giving rise to a fully realized world/mythos that is BR 2049.

Both Benjamin Wallfisch and Hans Zimmer did the BGM/score for this BR 2049 sequel (that pays tribute to Vangelis' music used in the original BR flick).

Considering that the world of BR 2049 takes place on June 30th, 2049 and the two days afterwards, it truly transcends the high bar already set with the first BR film being a detective noir film. The sequel delves into some striking revelations that are revealed later on as the movie progresses to it's eventual conclusion. View the film & find out what they are for your own persual. Clocking at an impressive 163 minutes in duration, it delivers in spades.

The hard-core BR fans will not be disappointed -- to say that fellow shmupper Skykid's prediction of this newfangled BR 2049 sequel being a disappointment is wrong on all accounts. It's quite rare to have a proper cyberpunk sequel that eclipses the high bar already set in the 1982 BR cult film classic.

I wouldn't be surprised if BR 2049 garners some Oscar award nominations in time for the upcoming February 2018 Academy Awards show. We'll see.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

After the film version of The Three Stooges that was Arrival (2016), Denis Villeneuve can fuck right off.
And as for the man formerly known as Skykid . . . what could once have been an insightful and entertaining evisceration will no doubt be an apologetic critique a la Alien: Covenant (2017)

We have fallen on evil times on the Shmups forum film scene. Evil times.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

What's your take on BR 2049, Zen?

At the very least, Ridley Scott didn't direct it even though he expressed interest in doing so when doing Alien Covenant. Do you think Mr. Scott could've done a better job directing BR 2049 with his Scott Free film production company?

It's already well-known that Mr. Scott was an excutive producer on the BR 2049 film project since it's inception. At the very least, better later than never (with a BR sequel), right?

And if you do the math with date given on the wooden horse prop, you'd figure out Blade Runner "K" is at the young age of 28, right?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Zen]

I have not seen it yet, so I'm partially just pulling your leg

My cynicism of the project is such, that I doubt I will waste my time watching it.
As for Scott possibly doing a better job; I think by now, fans of film realise that "Ridley Scott" never existed. He is merely a man with an eye for a shot who we all had such high hopes for that we pretended, for too long, that he was real.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

I noticed the gal that issued my pair of 3D glasses and tore my BR 2049 movie ticket voucher today, she was wearing a cool & stylized BR 2049 themed t-shirt. I asked her if they were for sale -- her response was, it was a mailed in promo for the movie theaters showing it. Aw shucks, at least I tried inquiring about them -- I'd still like to get one to wear at my leisure.

Another cool Easter Egg BR 2049 visual nod: Notice that the backside of the LAPD officers' coats have the actual "LAPD" letters that are self lighted via slick electro-luminscent based panels (that are powered by hidden batteries) and quite visible during the night-time patrol scenes. How cool is that?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[GaijinPunch]

He is merely a man with an eye for a shot who we all had such high hopes for that we pretended, for too long, that he was real.

It's one thing he does really well - wide angle lenses. Even now. Ironically I couldn't find anyone really showcasing it on the interwebs. Even in Covenant there are some very memorable frames. Unfortunately they're surrounded by the rest of the movie.

And no joke, as I sit here (likely in vein) at 21:17 PM local time, trying to get on a flight, someone just paged Elizabeth Shaw. No lie.

[GaijinPunch]

In all seriousness, Zen, with your standards of cinema being what they are, and the state of cinema being what it is, I'm curious if you dabble in television at all. I've questioned Skykid numerous times why instead of watching a TV series he continually goes and sees films that everyone knows he will at best not hate, and probably eviscerate at some point (or oddly enough say they're not that bad and be the only person that thinks so) and it seems to be a time commitment. I get that... but I dare say I probably have less free time than the average joe. I pick my battles and chip away at the good ones. All in all, I'd say there's far more quality to choose from.

[GaijinPunch]

And they're still waiting on Elizabeth Shaw at gate 50A. I guess they didn't see Covenant.

[Skykid]

In all seriousness, Zen, with your standards of cinema being what they are, and the state of cinema being what it is, I'm curious if you dabble in television at all. I've questioned Skykid numerous times why instead of watching a TV series he continually goes and sees films that everyone knows he will at best not hate, and probably eviscerate at some point (or oddly enough say they're not that bad and be the only person that thinks so) and it seems to be a time commitment. I get that... but I dare say I probably have less free time than the average joe. I pick my battles and chip away at the good ones. All in all, I'd say there's far more quality to choose from.

I recently watch American Vandal.

[Specineff]

Another cool Easter Egg BR 2049 visual nod: Notice that the backside of the LAPD officers' coats have the actual "LAPD" letters that are self lighted via slick electro-luminscent based panels (that are powered by hidden batteries) and quite visible during the night-time patrol scenes. How cool is that?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Same as the ones used in Tron: Legacy?

[Zen]

He is merely a man with an eye for a shot who we all had such high hopes for that we pretended, for too long, that he was real.

It's one thing he does really well - wide angle lenses. Even now. Ironically I couldn't find anyone really showcasing it on the interwebs. Even in Covenant there are some very memorable frames. Unfortunately they're surrounded by the rest of the movie.

And no joke, as I sit here (likely in vein) at 21:17 PM local time, trying to get on a flight, someone just paged Elizabeth Shaw. No lie.

Exactly!
He has gone from this;


To plying his skills in ShitHouse Cinema and for that he deserves to be mocked continually and mercilessly.

(Also, the synchronicity . . . )

In all seriousness, Zen, with your standards of cinema being what they are, and the state of cinema being what it is, I'm curious if you dabble in television at all. I've questioned Skykid numerous times why instead of watching a TV series he continually goes and sees films that everyone knows he will at best not hate, and probably eviscerate at some point (or oddly enough say they're not that bad and be the only person that thinks so) and it seems to be a time commitment. I get that... but I dare say I probably have less free time than the average joe. I pick my battles and chip away at the good ones. All in all, I'd say there's far more quality to choose from.

Have neither owned a television nor watched one, in over twelve years.
The main problem with a film like Blade Runner 2049 begins, for me at least, with one word, "why" and goes ever downward from there.