Cave x Steam teaser!

[guyot]

Fantastic news.

Is this steam only, or will it also arrive on gog at some point?

[Xyga]

http://hg101.proboards.com/thread/10256 ... d?page=434
So much love...

They can't smell the shmupper pheromone this thread is filled with.

[Giest118]

Fantastic news.

Is this steam only, or will it also arrive on gog at some point?

Horrible Steam/Illuminati DRM-only. No other possibilities exist in any real or hypothetical reality. Steam will get your personal information and throw it at the NSA, and you will become pregnant with the antichrist.

[mdsfx]

Fantastic news.

Is this steam only, or will it also arrive on gog at some point?

Horrible Steam/Illuminati DRM-only. No other possibilities exist in any real or hypothetical reality. Steam will get your personal information and throw it at the NSA, and you will become pregnant with the antichrist.

Lol that was amazing

[HydrogLox]

Was it confirmed that more than one game is coming to steam? I see people using the words "games" (plural)...

Depending on Cave's stamina we may be seeing the beginnings of the 3rd incarnation of the "CAVE Shooting Collection" (Steam):
CAVE Shooting Collection X360
CAVE Shooting Collection Kan X360
... which of course didn't include DoDonpachi as that was an "Instant Brain" unlockable, nor "Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi", nor "DoDonPachi DaiOuJou Black Label Extra" which where handled by 5pb. Games (Tachyon for Ketsui).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder ... -to-steam/

We're on Forbes o_O? Is this real life?

Strange things happen once "hell starts to freeze over" - next: beware of low-flying pigs.

[z0mbie90]

and you will become pregnant with the antichrist.

I'd be happy with that

[emphatic]

Can we hope for new arrange modes?

[Giest118]

Seriously, I'd just be happy if I finally got a version of Mushi to play that wasn't touchscreen-based.

[CWM]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder ... -to-steam/

We're on Forbes o_O? Is this real life?

Forbes has online contributors who write about all sorts of things, video games included. Not really a big deal ultimately.

[mdsfx]

In my case, I am running a small shmuppers club at my company... The company pays for it, money is not an object...

I was happily employed... Until I read this. That is so sweet.

[CWM]

Fantastic news.

Is this steam only, or will it also arrive on gog at some point?

Horrible Steam/Illuminati DRM-only. No other possibilities exist in any real or hypothetical reality. Steam will get your personal information and throw it at the NSA, and you will become pregnant with the antichrist.

Nothing wrong with having your fun, but please understand that there could be other, less philosophical and more technical, reasons besides holding a DRM-free stance for asking for a non-Steam game.

In my case, I am running a small shmuppers club at my company, but we can't install Steam because our recreational computers are air-gapped from the network and Internet. We choose and buy 6-10 copies of a shmup every month, we have even imported doujin disks from Japan at times. The company pays for it, money is not an object, but Steam is.

Bottom line: Prospective customers are demanding something from Degica, in a thread about a game release, started by a Degica employee. No one said "Steam sux" et al. so far, everybody's being reasonable adults. Degica will consider the feedback (or not), and depending on the outcome we'll buy the game (or not). Simple as that.

Huh, that sucks. If I may ask, is it Steam as a program that's the problem, the need to create accounts, and so forth, or just a persistent Internet connection? Because if you can connect one of them to the Internet just for a minute (long enough to log in on Steam), even by using something like a USB mobile modem, then you can set Steam to offline, install the game from a backup, and it'll work forever. A hassle, but it's doable unless you have specific reasons not to want to connect the machines to the Internet ever.

On the general DRM-free front, maybe it's more worthwhile to ask Degica to make the Steam copy itself DRM-free? Then you could just copy it on a pendrive and distribute it to the machines. A game being distributed on Steam doesn't necessitate it using Steamworks DRM, that's up to the publisher. Given that whether GOG wants to distribute the game is beyond Degica's control.

[guyot]

Given that whether GOG wants to distribute the game is beyond Degica's control.

It's also up to whether Degica themselves wish to release it on GOG, as it's certainly not a no brainer unfortunately. There are costs associated with supporting each extra platform and rolling out updates.

I suspect it'll depend on how good the CC GOG sales were for Degica. Hopefully it sold well on GOG.

[Xyga]

@kane:

Yeah you only need to connect once, I don't see the problem.

Then never connecting again would certainly mean to miss fixes, updates and possibly new contents.

Otherwise just ask Degica for an enterprise group purchase lol. Maybe they'll send you individual installers each with their own 'club' password ?

[Satan]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder ... -to-steam/

We're on Forbes o_O? Is this real life?

Forbes has online contributors who write about all sorts of things, video games included. Not really a big deal ultimately.

I like to think of Warren Buffet nodding and saying "It's about fucking time" as he slips off for some Guwange.

[Chacranajxy]

@kane:

Yeah you only need to connect once, I don't see the problem.

Then never connecting again would certainly mean to miss fixes, updates and possibly new contents.

Otherwise just ask Degica for an enterprise group purchase lol. Maybe they'll send you individual installers each with their own 'club' password ?

I think it's easier to just skip all the "maybe you could try" nonsense and just have a DRM-free installer. It solves the problem.

[BulletMagnet]

I think it's easier to just skip all the "maybe you could try" nonsense and just have a DRM-free installer. It solves the problem.

Assuming you're not worried about making most of your "sales" on torrent sites. Mind you, I like to buy DRM-free myself when given the option, but I also understand why many developers are leery of it.

I like to think of Warren Buffet nodding and saying "It's about fucking time" as he slips off for some Guwange.

I picture him as more of a Muchi Muchi Pork kind of guy.

[Chacranajxy]

I think it's easier to just skip all the "maybe you could try" nonsense and just have a DRM-free installer. It solves the problem.

Assuming you're not worried about making most of your "sales" on torrent sites. Mind you, I like to buy DRM-free myself when given the option, but I also understand why many developers are leery of it.

Oh, I get why. But let's not pretend that the games aren't going to end up there before launch anyway.

[vector7]

On the general DRM-free front, maybe it's more worthwhile to ask Degica to make the Steam copy itself DRM-free?

I guess not many people here know it but steam now allows a refund if you played the game less than 2 hours and bought it earlier than 2 weeks ago. So maybe it's not the best idea to have a completely drm-free copy there.

[Elaphe]

Could this mean that we may have Mushihimesama HD in our PCs without the need for a Japanese XBOX 360?

[Giest118]

Could this mean that we may have Mushihimesama HD in our PCs without the need for a Japanese XBOX 360?

Only if they want money.

[Necronom]

CAVE is developing a game for PC. Without giving away too much, it's a real arcade game and a fan favorite, so you can put your fears of bad mobile ports or freemium games aside.

Hmmm, interesting My money's on an enhanced version of DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou or Deathsmiles including the extra content from the mobile version...let's wait and see
I would buy both btw!

[Teufel_in_Blau]

For the love of god, please don't let this beautiful thread turn into a DRM debate.

@Blackbird and shinimai
I have no idea how many of you guys/gals are involved in this thing but just so you know: we, the CAVE fans, appreciate your work and hope that your guys work/risk will bear fruit and turn into a lot of good old hard cash! You're doing gods work, please continue!

[Cee]

Could this mean that we may have Mushihimesama HD in our PCs without the need for a Japanese XBOX 360?

That's about the gist of it, yeah.

I know it's early days but any rough time frames known? As awesome as all this steam shmup news has been in recent months it does feel like we are always stuck in waiting.

[CStarFlare]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder ... -to-steam/

We're on Forbes o_O? Is this real life?

Not to bring you down, but Forbes' website does post a certain amount of video gaming content on its site and I think it's basically irrelevant to 99.x% of the people who visit. I imagine they get it for almost-free.

But it's nice to be able to browse a site like Forbes' and get the news I want to read.

[CWM]

On the general DRM-free front, maybe it's more worthwhile to ask Degica to make the Steam copy itself DRM-free?

I guess not many people here know it but steam now allows a refund if you played the game less than 2 hours and bought it earlier than 2 weeks ago. So maybe it's not the best idea to have a completely drm-free copy there.

I am aware of that, but I don't think it really matters. Buying the game (spending actual money), installing it, making a copy, asking for a refund, and then waiting for Valve to process it (which I assume they're not very prompt about, as with most of their processes), is, all in all, more work than just torrenting the GoG version. So if they're actually willing to have it on GoG, the "easy piracy" angle is already covered.

[MSZ]

Hard to get excited about this...Are they going to port Donpachi, DoDonpachi, ESPRaDe, Ibara and ESPGaluda to Steam? Since I've own most 360 ports already.

[mdsfx]

Hard to get excited about this...Are they going to port Donpachi, DoDonpachi, ESPRaDe, Ibara and ESPGaluda to Steam? Since I've own most 360 ports already.

So do I. I'm more excited to have any of these games on a platform that's not physically decaying (my 360 is on its last legs) and for the exposure of Cave games to a larger audience.

[Obscura]

Based on Blackbird's comments, this is almost certainly SH-3, which combined with "fan favorite" means either Deathsmiles or Futari.

Deathsmiles seems more likely, since it's closer to the "correct" aspect ratio for most people's monitors.

[mdsfx]

Based on Blackbird's comments, this is almost certainly SH-3, which combined with "fan favorite" means either Deathsmiles or Futari.

Deathsmiles seems more likely, since it's closer to the "correct" aspect ratio for most people's monitors.

Which comment of his led you to believe it's an sh3 game?

[Obscura]

His comments about thinking that it wasn't just a packaged ROM + emulator based on what he had seen.

Since the pre-SH-3 games are pretty much perfect in MAME at this point, and the slowdown and audio emulation on the SH-3 games still isn't quite right, the fact that he could tell that it was "not ROM + emulator" means it's almsot certainly SH-3.