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Jockel wrote:
Jaimers wrote:the slider does nothing if you don't actually turn blitter on in the config
Where do I do that exactly? I can't find anything called blitter or delay in the .ini
Press TAB while the game is running. It's under 'Game Configuration'.
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Forget all this talk about the latest Cave games being playable in UME.....id take Raiden 2 and DX to be finally emulated correctly any day of the week!!!!

These 2 games have to be some the most popular longest running games to be implemented into MAME but never be playable!?
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Have there been any source releases with the new cave driver? Since I don't have a windows box, I have to compile mame.
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jepjepjep wrote:Have there been any source releases with the new cave driver? Since I don't have a windows box, I have to compile mame.
No luck there. Source is being kept tightly close to the original testing group (ie. Haze, the person working on the driver and whoever leaked it).
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Cagar wrote:If the game runs but it's blurry and don't know how to fix it (because you're lazy), put this in your UME folder and it should be fixed
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97517759/ume.ini
I tried this, and the menus are still blurry. What are the settings that needed to be changed?

Edit: just needed to change ddraw to d3d.
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system11 wrote:I don't want to see any more links or references for where to find places that host the ROMs, or even point at them, or I'll simply delete the entire thread.
Would you mind editing the OP to include this warning? I do want to discuss emulation settings and the general progress of things.
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Jockel wrote:
system11 wrote:I don't want to see any more links or references for where to find places that host the ROMs, or even point at them, or I'll simply delete the entire thread.
Would you mind editing the OP to include this warning? I do want to discuss emulation settings and the general progress of things.
Why not ask the OP then? A simple PM is enough.
system11 wrote:I don't want to see any more links or references for where to find places that host the ROMs, or even point at them, or I'll simply delete the entire thread.
Fair enough - but at the time i posted the links they contained only the mame binaries, not the games. These have been added afterwards. I have no problem deleting those links now if you insist, but please don't lock / delete the thread.

[EDIT]

I see that you have already deleted my post with the link, however there are posts with quotes to my one with the link still in them.
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For some reason UME screams "missing CHD or ROM images" when I play extracted Futari BL and Galuda 2, but it runs their zip files just fine. Is this happening to anyone else?
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The only one that gives me the "missing CHD or ROM images" is Futari 1.5. Not sure why this is, as both 1.0 and BL run OK.
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Formless God wrote:For some reason UME screams "missing CHD or ROM images" when I play extracted Futari BL and Galuda 2, but it runs their zip files just fine. Is this happening to anyone else?
Galuda 2 works fine for me.

As for Futari, all ROMs got put in the parent ROM's ZIP folder, so extracting futariblk isn't going to do anything but probably cause errors.

You really should keep them zipped anyway though, it's better for filesize and makes little difference in any to load times.
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How's Ibara running now?
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The same way.
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Turning on hlsl gives me a "no driver loaded" error. Anyone know whats up?
And i cant seem to get into service mode. F2,9,0,- all does not work.
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cskcsk wrote:Turning on hlsl gives me a "no driver loaded" error. Anyone know whats up?
mine doesnt display anything with hlsl on. :(
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Service mode worked for me by holding down 0, and HLSL worked for me by creating the config and setting hlsl_enable to 1 using the 0.151 and 0.150x3 variants of the leaked build. Check HLSL works for you with other builds of MAME and that you're running with a default config.

Anyone else noticed sound effects playing when they shouldn't? I've noticed random explosions in ESPGaluda II's first stage, extra voices in Mushihimesama and extra sfx after inserting a coin in Mushihimesama Futari so far.
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cools wrote:Five years seems pretty acceptable to me for a read/write storage chip :) Just need someone to figure out (release) a reprogramming tool for them.

I've heard anecdotes that certain bits of the board cannot be reprogrammed without desoldering chips though...
Agreed.. And as long as Cave is around they aren't too bad to work with.

I was involved with sending 2 games back to Cave not long ago, both got reprogrammed. They also replaced a surface mount component on one PCB after testing, though to my knowledge it wasn't obvious which board was fixed in this manner. Both were Mushi 1.5's, so they were pretty new PCBs. Who knows, maybe they replaced some flash?

To be clear, these weren't boards that had lost some data. It was a bugfix, straight up.. and I was able to correspond directly with them in Engrish and get them fixed.

As an aside though, it will be great if the community is able to flash the CV-1000 PCB's directly in the future. What's holding this back? Is all the interest in playing the games via MAME and there's no interest in working with the PCBs?

While I'm throwing questions out there, is the CV-1000 dumping process destructive? Is there anyone I'd trust doing this?
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I am able to reprogram the graphics and program ROMs. I will not say how, and I will not do it without a significantly good reason. Ask CAVE to do it.

The dumping (and programming) process for the graphics and program ROMs is non-destructive and requires no soldering. The sound ROMs must be either de-(and re-)soldered or piggy-backed.
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trap15 wrote:Ask CAVE to do it.
I'm quite sure they won't.
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BPzeBanshee wrote: Anyone else noticed sound effects playing when they shouldn't? I've noticed random explosions in ESPGaluda II's first stage, extra voices in Mushihimesama and extra sfx after inserting a coin in Mushihimesama Futari so far.
I've noticed that as well. Whatever Reco says at the beginning of the first three stages is right at the first stage start up.
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Hey, anybody knows how good or bad sh3 games on UME run on an Intel Haswell 4200U, i'm contemplating getting an hybrid ultrabook for school (that can be folded into a tablet) should be pretty nice for Tate shmups, but I have literally no experience with Haswell "U" processors.
Thanks for you input.
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Shin wrote:Hey, anybody knows how good or bad sh3 games on UME run on an Intel Haswell 4200U, i'm contemplating getting an hybrid ultrabook for school (that can be folded into a tablet) should be pretty nice for Tate shmups, but I have literally no experience with Haswell "U" processors.
Thanks for you input.

I'm running it on a Core i5 2500K (Sandy Bridge) w/ Intel HD 4000 graphics and barring issues with the emulation itself, it runs everything full speed.
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Ok, good know, but your processor is a quad 3.4Ghz
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/65647#@ ... ifications
4200U is 2 years newer (so you can't exactly compare speeds) but it's only a dual core proc @ 1.6Ghz.
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/75459/I ... ifications
(It's basically the same processor as a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 tablet)
Not 100%sure MAME uses all 4cores on your PC but still.
2500K scores 6369 and 4200U scores 3345 here :
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
So in that regard 4200U is more like an i3 2100, if that means anything, not sure if Mame works like that though.
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If it's of any help, my laptop's CPU is a Q9300X from 2008 and runs UME at 100%
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It actually does, both CPUs score about the same on that listing. Let's just hope Win8.1 isn't too CPU/RAM taxing ccompared to the OS you're using (win7, I guess)
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Yes, the OS is W7 x64. I'll give you my laptop's specs for comparison purposes: Lenovo W700, 8Gig of RAM, Quadro FX 3700M and the Q9300X (2.53Ghz) was the first Quad core CPU for laptops. No hyperthreading though. Good luck!
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guys could you make a little test with your gear?

when you launch a game, wait for the "insert coin" screen, switch off throttle (F10) and wait for the demo run to happen.

then report the lowest percentage you have.

it's a bit of a stretch saying that "i can play them at 100%" is reason enough to imply that your hardware can handle it.

i tried several games on my i7 at work, and as far as mushihimesama was well about 300% for most of the time, pink sweets is all over the place with over 800% at one point and then 100% (!!) at another.

to have a fluid gaming experience you actually should have a bit of "head" to your percentage, like 130% or more.
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the pink sweets game code decompresses the graphics on the fly, usually at the start of levels and right before mid-bosses when the game is less busy, mmpork does the same to a lesser extent.

at these points it taxes the emulated sh3 to the max, and thus runs significantly slower, as observed you really need to have a high clock i3/i5 for those moments (my 3ghz Core 2 does NOT cut it and dips to around 78%) The driver does not / can not make use of more than 2 cores. The architectural improvements of the newer chips, as well as the slightly higher clock speeds available seem enough to push you over 100. Mobile / low power chips certainly aren't going to be adequate.

by contrast on screens like the cave logo the sh3 is sat there doing practically nothing and can run at 800% ;-)
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matrigs wrote:guys could you make a little test with your gear?

when you launch a game, wait for the "insert coin" screen, switch off throttle (F10) and wait for the demo run to happen.

then report the lowest percentage you have.
Hope we don't get too off topic with these tests but here you have it. I tried this in two games, Mushihimesama and DFK 1.5 watching 2 attract modes. The lowest percentage on Mushi was around 250% and 130% on DFK when a bomb is used, both of these lowest results happening on the second demo movie. The QX9300 even though is an old CPU it can compete with some of the second generation i7 (laptop), at least for rendering. It might have something to do with the 12MB of cache? No idea.
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No info about akai katana and DDP DOJ Black Label?

The rule for 3 years is done right?
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pbsk8 wrote:No info about akai katana and DDP DOJ Black Label?

The rule for 3 years is done right?
DDP DOJ Black Label has been available for over a year.
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