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Re: Twin Tiger Shark

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So, I'll just skip it then...if it's ok with everyone.
Doing QR code seems quite a struggle as well...need to find a lib for it. And the first search attempt didn't come up with any easy/small one.

What really worries me is that I haven't done anything to the actual game in a while... :?
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Finally found a simple QR code generator! Yay!
But now I can't MD5 nor url-encode in XNA...why...am...I...even...bothering?
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mice wrote:why...am...I...even...bothering?
Because you're completely mad? :)

Honestly, from what I know of the shmups forum if you released this with just local scores it would be enough. We're likely to have our own score thread here anyway and from what I played of this the other day - it's great fun. I'd definitely pay the max in MSP for this. To quote a popular meme in these parts:

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Agreeing with n0rtygames. Get a local highscore board working in the game and you'll be right: we can manage the rest. ;)
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*grumble* I still think community high scores would be a fun side project... just dont think Mice should hinder the release of his game for it ;p

Anyway - serious question - how are you rendering your font? Are you using some special shader for the gradients, or do you just have custom sprites for each character?
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n0rtygames wrote:Because you're completely mad?
Yeah, that's probably it. And the QR renderer can only handle level 10...so I need to get a shorter url or extend it myself. Argh.
And still no luck with a MD5 hasher nor a url-encoder. But I really want this to work, I really do.
n0rtygames wrote:how are you rendering your font?
It's a (or 2, with different sizes) bitmap font. So, no trickery I'm afraid. :)
BPzeBanshee wrote:Get a local highscore board working in the game
Is this needed at all? Isn't the hiscore enough? How many have friends over these days... :wink:
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mice wrote:Is this needed at all? Isn't the hiscore enough? How many have friends over these days... :wink:
Not *needed* no... also what are these friends you speak of?

But in all seriousness - I do find there's something satisfying about setting a score and then entering your initials with that final push of the button to seal the deal. Maybe it's an arcade feel thing? :)

g'wan... it's only a list of 10 elements...
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True, seems like I'm just trying to get out of it... :)
As it is now, for the xblig and ouya versions, there is no entering of initials. The username is being extracted from the account and that one is used. But you're absolutely right, entering the initials and see it take place on the board is a big part of the experience.

Maybe a poll for this? Yes, a poll. So, updating it right away.

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Poll 1: Weapons
Poll ended at Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:41 pm
Colored pickup squares to select weapon type	[ 11 ]
S or P to power the weapon up			[ 6 ]
Same color to power the weapon up		[ 8 ]
Only "straight" shots (a la Flying Shark)		[ 2 ]
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There is a poll problem, it ended at Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:41 pm :D
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rtw wrote:There is a poll problem, it ended at Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:41 pm
Doh! Thanks, fixed it now.
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Hey Mice...

You already know what I voted... but think it through. I'm not gonna be doing the shared p2p scores on the next game for the same reasons I've listed above buuuut....

if you were to use initials for local saves you could get away with not bothering to handle any gamer profiles and just use isolated storage for all your savedata... :0)
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I always prefer being able to set your name before the game starts and having the game save that; but if you want that proper 'arcade feel', I'd have it at least remember what the last entry was. Who honestly wants a hiscore table dominated by the mysterious Mr. "AAA"? :lol: I hate that guy!
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I use AAA for my shit runs and BPF for non-shit. It's good to have the name table there for mates.

In fact, you could improve on the always entering at end issue by having the game remember a default name, so instead of A__ it remembers the name of your choice.
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BPzeBanshee wrote:I use AAA for my shit runs and BPF for non-shit.
Ah, that's why I always use AAA. :)
BPzeBanshee wrote:In fact, you could improve on the always entering at end issue by having the game remember a default name
Rozyrg wrote:I'd have it at least remember what the last entry was
It's the last entered that is there now. Some games have the remembered name popping up when entering AAA as well, don't they?
n0rtygames wrote: handle any gamer profiles
Yeah, so local only it is (and hopefullt I get the QR code thing working as well).

On to create score board logic then...(or rather rip it from Heavy Recoil and refactor it to be inserted into the engine).
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CAVE games always put CAV if you don't enter anything, continue etc. You could put TOA as default?
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emphatic wrote:CAVE games always put CAV if you don't enter anything, continue etc. You could put TOA as default?
Ah, TOA ftw!
But the entry field is 8 chars long, I think.
So the default local list will be:

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1...TOAPLAN....9999
2...STGS.......8888
3...STILL......7777
4...RULES!.....5555
5.../mice......6666
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mice wrote:But the entry field is 8 chars long, I think.
8 chars... luxury, when I was young we had to do with 3 :mrgreen:
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rtw wrote:8 chars... luxury, when I was young we had to do with 3 :mrgreen:
It's because we're in the EU. The Japanese boards often have 8 chars. Flying Shark and Out Zone come to mind.
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Those actually have 6 ;)
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trap15 wrote:Those actually have 6 ;)
Oh well, how typical. *facepalm*
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Tempted to move to 6 chars now, actually. Cause all of the data don't fit on a row very well... :(

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Yay, QR codes in xbox version works! Thanks to the all mighty Internet and its slaves. All hail the Internet.
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XBOX cover art! Marek Barej (of locomalito fame) delivered in spades!

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That's badass man :)
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Wow, that rules hard.
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It rules so hard it feels as if it's wasted on the game...

Also, the XBOX and OUYA versions will have their username extracted instead of using the initials entering screen.
Uploading the (right) scores was proving to be too problematic. So, sorry about that. :cry:
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I've now pushed the "peer review me" button for the xblig version... wish me luck. :wink:
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mice wrote:I've now pushed the "peer review me" button for the xblig version... wish me luck. :wink:
Will spread word. GL!

So long as it doesn't break - it's a pass from me.
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Re: Twin Tiger Shark [Poll Question Changed]

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Fixed that for you:
n0rtygames wrote:So long as it doesn't SUCK - it's a pass from me.
EDIT: What I really meant was: thanks! :)
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