or in the case of DUX, using the same shiny texture for every object, which just screams low budget.
Well played.In a traditional sense, this game doesn't use any textures. And that's part of it's style.
See also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction
Thanks for the fix. Up until now I wasn't aware that euro-shmup was the new technical term for low budget.undamned wrote:RHE wrote:you can score with absorbing enemey bullets and eliminating enemies in a certain manner etc.Fixed.or in the case of DUX, using the same shiny texture for every object, which just screams euro-shmup.
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It's not that pre-rendered graphics bother me so much, but in this particular game, the pre-rendered graphics look like they were made by a first semester 3D graphics student.undamned wrote:I meant it in the way of pre-rendered shiny 3D objects I've seen in some far from great games.bcass wrote:I think people use the term euroshmup as a sort of insult around here, but given that a handfull of euroshmups are actually quite good (with a couple being quite excellent), I don't think it's especially fair to use it in that way.
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So show me some stuff. Personally I always were harldy impressed by any common graphic students regardless of there degree.Zhoul wrote:but in this particular game, the pre-rendered graphics look like they were made by a first semester 3D graphics student.
It's not easy like that.However, it's a Dreamcast shmup - the people here will buy it regardless.
Well, I'm talking about the collectors here who will buy anything for the Dreamcast. It is, after all, a much cherished system.It's not easy like that.
When speaking about pricing you should understand that DUX asks 20 EUR. If the US currency wouldn't be so weak as it is, this would make 20 USD. Also, a game is always worth as much fun it is, which is a matter of taste.Zhoul wrote:but it just doesn't seem like a game worthy of a $30 price tag.
Collectors have more interest in LEs but there's none of this game. Anyway, collectors are a story for itself, and that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of this game or it's pricing.Well, I'm talking about the collectors here who will buy anything for the Dreamcast. It is, after all, a much cherished system.
All of this. But how does this matter? Do you feel offended that this game is for Dreamcast and not PS2?Out of curiosity, what made you choose the Dreamcast as the platform? Ease of development? Love for the system? Considering that there are over 100 million PS2's around the world, you'd probably sell more on that system.
The expense involved? The time and cost to get approval, the revenue sharing scheme...Turrican wrote:Why not doing something for PSN or XBLA? Stardust turned out excellent. Just a suggestion eh...
Yeah, and I like the style. It's way out in left field with the ship colors, and the shapes of enemies and their crazy "sheen". Way different. I respect the very deliberate minimalist approach with the graphics. Many here will look at graphics first. If it's not as groundbreaking as Ikaruga, then you'll get stones tossed at you right off the bat. Then you'll get the "low budget" term thrown at you. Hey, budget means crap if you have a considerable degree of originality. For some reason "Patapon" comes to mind.In a traditional sense, this game doesn't use any textures. And that's part of it's style.
They are just ganging up trying to act cool. Notice how noone is actually trying to argue just why they think the game is bad - no comments on the actual gameplay and no effort to understand the design choices. I guess this is where the big gaming magazines get their reviewers.RHE wrote:Can someone explain to me what these people talking about?
Normally at the development state this stage is shown, every game looks amateurish. Not even in professional game development. RSG didn't look much better and Ikaruga as well. You should know this.Udderdude wrote:Ok, I watched the lvl 1 video and honestly it looks .. amateur at best.
Maybe it seems to be the way to you, but it's not the case. The enemies has yet to be improved though.The enemy placement seemed random and uninspired, almost Zanac-like.
When playing the game on score you may will understand.The giant boxes floating around made me boggle .. why are they there? It doesn't even make the game more interesting.
Those enemies flying up and down are pretty large. The rotating cannon, which you an shoot at in the final, is pretty large too but the video doesn't show the complete stage anyhow.There were no larger enemies either.
This instead is a good obversation. Currently there are only implosions but this will be impoved.The explosions looked like a poof that dissapears halfway.
Of course this will be im proved and it's already mentioned several times that it looks strange as is.The giant charge shot just looks ridiculous, it comes out of nowhere with no effects or animation.
Not a problem. Personally I dislike XOPs extemely gritty style. With those pseudo-scanlines even more, because it makes the game less playable. I prefer real-scanlines produced by an CRT. I also think that people who understrand the benifit of scanlines won't put them on every thing to make them look like arcade games were in the 90s. That's just embarrassing.I am really not a big fan of the art style either, it looks like everything is made out of iMac candy plastic.
Indeedly, DUX will be accessible to everybody to make it easier to enjoy.At least it doesn't look like it plays like Last Hope. That one was close to making me toss the CD into a blender, and that was after playing it for all of 30 minutes.
If you show it to the public at that stage, it will get critisised. You might want to work on it a little longer before showing it to the public, if you don't want your feelings hurt next time. ;(RHE wrote:Normally at the development state this stage is shown, every game looks amateurish. Not even in professional game development. RSG didn't look much better and Ikaruga either. You should know this.
So you're saying that even though the enemy placement seems totally random, it's not because .. why? No reason? And then you say you have to improve it? So it is random after all? Make up your mind please. ;PRHE wrote:Maybe it seems to be the way to you, but it's not the case. The enemies has yet to be improved though.The enemy placement seemed random and uninspired, almost Zanac-like.
Giant floating boxes that bounce around like something out of a Quickbasic demo .. are somehow score-related. Uh huh.RHE wrote:When playing the game on score you may will understand.The giant boxes floating around made me boggle .. why are they there? It doesn't even make the game more interesting.
When I see a video of nothing but popcorn enemies it seems pretty much like what I described. If you want to show that there's bigger enemies, put them in there and then show it.RHE wrote:Those enemies flying up and down are pretty large. The rotating cannon, which you an shoot at in the final, is pretty large too but the video doesn't show the complete stage anyhow.There were no larger enemies either.
How do psuedo-scanlines make the game less playable? Embarrasing? What the hell are you talking about? Yes, I'm completely embarrased that I added a fake scanline effect to my game.RHE wrote:Not a problem. Personally I dislike XOPs extemely gritty style. With those pseudo-scanlines even more, because it makes the game less playable. I prefer real-scanlines produced by an CRT. I also think that people who understrand the benifit of scanlines won't put them on every thing to make them look like arcade games were in the 90s. That's just embarrassing.I am really not a big fan of the art style either, it looks like everything is made out of iMac candy plastic.
Anyway, if you set the resolution to 400x300, the scanlines go away. Imagine that.This is good at least ..RHE wrote:Indeedly, DUX will be accessible to everybody to make it easier to enjoy.At least it doesn't look like it plays like Last Hope. That one was close to making me toss the CD into a blender, and that was after playing it for all of 30 minutes.
What can I do to make your worrying go away? Harder difficulty setting to select from beginning or just more harder loops?Indeedly, DUX will be accessible to everybody to make it easier to enjoy.
Plasmo wrote:Actually that's the most worrysome point I could think of.
Before I can answer your question I've to ask you something.it290 wrote:I'm just curious, why make another R-Type clone?
The first stage is indeedly very inspired by R-Type and pretty generic. However, the final game and the reamining stages will be much more different on these terms.comment based solely upon watching the video; perhaps there is some gameplay element I'm not aware of that sets it farther apart from R-Type.
Not very likely but not undoable either. Nevertheless, with that attitude there wouldn't be much games to play since you can harldy top the best games around anyway. So, topping a another game should not be the goal of any game.but you're not going to top the likes of Pulstar, Last Resort, etc.
