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Squire Grooktook wrote:I honestly do not understand the point at all. It feels like a totally irrelevant nitpick that might make for a good chuckle but barely constitutes a flaw, let alone a grave one.
*sigh* It's a nitpick yes because it's only about some low grade stuff so it doesn't matter much indeed, but relevant because of the form. Conan is presented as a legend and those are supposed to leave hints, links no matter how foggy and blurred to things relatable to the real world, no matter if the story carries complete fantasy elements such as magic etc. It brings the necessary ingredient of doubt and mystery legend-type tales need to work as such.
It doesn't matter as long as you don't realize the two things I've said: that (at least in the film) it borrows massively to a real world period and setting, which works to hook up a legend to, loosely as it's supposed to, until you learn he places the events about 10,000 years further in the past, which is utterly impossible for anyone who'd know even a tiny bit about our world's history. It breaks all the elements of relatability necessary to even a poorly told legend as it intends and clumsily puts it in the pure sci-fi category. Yes that's a considerable flaw even for b-grade material.
My point is that the story at least as far as what the film covers, would have been a nudge higher in quality without that, which isn't saying much, and again after all as long as people don't know shit the fact remains unnoticeable.
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Angels with Dirty Faces (1938)
Pretty good, although White Heat was more interesting. Makes it up with a damn hot cast. :D
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Reading all this Conan stuff is firing me up to watch Conan again today, haha. Personally, I like the taken-for-granted fantasy aspects of the Conan movie. Yeah Milius' Conan is less thoughtful than Howard's, but Milius nails the nietzschean themes so well that I don't really care. The true tragedy is that we never got to see the arc of Conan continue in better sequels, which would have justified bumbling Arnold in the first movie... and it looks like King Conan won't be happening. :cry:

@Xyga, have you seen Dragonslayer? In terms of "historical fantasy"--a difficult pair of words to reconcile--it does a surprisingly good job showing a sub-Roman Britain on the cusp of Christianity. I had been reading a bunch of medieval and dark ages stuff at the time I saw it, and was pleasantly surprised.

In other news, I've been catching up on bad Nicolas Cage movies: Vampire's Kiss, Birdy, Looking Glass, Snake Eyes. Even I could not stomach "Army of One", though... probably the most annoying accent/characterization I've ever heard. Gilbert Gottfried eat your heart out.
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blackoak wrote:@Xyga, have you seen Dragonslayer?
Yup, unforgettable best movie dragon ever, the practical effects have aged well imho. The ending showing the 'takeover' of the real world 'non-fantasy' society and the last of the heroe's kind/end of era leaving is also done right indeed. You don't know much about when and where but it just gives you the vague idea of the setting. It works.
blackoak wrote:In terms of "historical fantasy".
But again I'm not at all trying to reconcile historical accuracy and fantasy nor saying Conan should have, just making the remark that it's presented as a type of tale which is the legend, but Howard and fans break the 'rules' of it by introducing and supporting a pure sci-fi item to the setting that doesn't fit.
I mean others like Burroughs or Norman for instance have at least made clear that their human earthling heroes go full isekai, so they define a frank distance to reality that put their works rather in the sword and sorcery / planet opera kind of mashup or whatever. Not Howard, who should have just shut up on the actual real world details, his disaster story doesn't work to cover for the far-fetchedness.
Anyway, again it's not important.
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OH. MY. GOD!
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"Christopher Nolan will be heading to Cannes for the first time this year, but not with a film of his own.
The director will be on the Croisette to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey,
introducing the world premiere of an unrestored 70mm print edition of the film.
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So, are we going to Cannes, or what?
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soprano1 wrote:Angels with Dirty Faces (1938)
Pretty good, although White Heat was more interesting. Makes it up with a damn hot cast. :D
Too bad that one isn't on the Blu-ray set. Not available on digital either. At least the other movie not in the blu-ray set, The Roaring Twenties, is available on digital.
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Zen wrote: "Christopher Nolan will be heading to Cannes for the first time this year, but not with a film of his own.
The director will be on the Croisette to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey,
introducing the world premiere of an unrestored 70mm print edition of the film.
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So, are we going to Cannes, or what?
Are you familiar w/ the restored versus unrestored prints? The Musicbox here in Chicago plays this on 70mm somewhat regularly.. I gotta assume it's restored though. 50 year old film... even medium format... has to be so well cared for. They play stuff from the 80s regularly and most things have some issue or another.
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Zen wrote:OH. MY. GOD!
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"Christopher Nolan will be heading to Cannes for the first time this year, but not with a film of his own.
The director will be on the Croisette to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey,
introducing the world premiere of an unrestored 70mm print edition of the film.
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So, are we going to Cannes, or what?
Ya mo be there.
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I watched Infinity wars.

Easily the best Avengers movie. Could take the crown as best Marvel movie ever.

I'm guessing that a lot of people have seen it. The reason I liked it so much is because it was more "Empire strikes back" than "Return of the Jedi". For once Disney has learned to make the good guys vulnerable a bit. This movie has fun, action and shock value and its ending comes from act of stupidity. Disney has taken this story much further than I ever could have imagined. Even Thanos himself has an agenda based on a purpose I could relate with. Since Disney has taken this story too far (you'll see when you see it), there is going to be some inevitable back tracking. I can't believe the Marvel universe will be left in a such a state. But the movie as a singular entity deserves all the praise its getting, if you can get over one act of stupidity.

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GaijinPunch wrote:Are you familiar w/ the restored versus unrestored prints?
No, no. In fact I am shamefully uneducated with the whole photography aspect of film making in general.
Worst case scenario, could this end up being restored less as "Kubrick intended" and more as "Nolan intended"?
Checked out The Musicbox on youtube. Fantastic (and some of those design choices, man, love it!) The world feels like a better place, knowing venues like this still exist.
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On the contrary, the "restored" version was apparently made with Kubrick's notes in regards to color-correction, owing to the age of the film and natural degradation, if I understand things correctly. This "unrestored" version for Cannes is supposedly taken directly from the original film negatives, so it would, outside of some cleanup (in case of tears maybe), be exactly as audiences would have seen it 50 years ago.

Musicbox is a lovely place. It has a thorough "dive" atmosphere to it, which is part of the charm. I've seen several movies there (including The Room and Rocky Horror Picture Show, perennial midnight favorites). There are a number of nice smaller theaters still operating in Chicago... but all the ones around me have been shuttered or are in limbo as they sometimes close, sometimes re-open. The last showing at the theater right by my house was a 70mm print of Zardoz. What a fucking amazing night that was. One of my friends yelled at me afterwards, saying "that was the worst fucking movie I've seen in my life!" :mrgreen: De gustibus non est disputandum.

Reminds me that now that summer approaches, the Pickwick will have its annual Godzilla festival...
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Yes, sorry, the "unrestored" version is what I'm asking about. "The Nolan version" :)
What, if any, are the dangers, is what I'm asking. Its a bit of a minefield.

The difference between the unrestored "Nolan version" and the 2007 bluray, even in this youtube video, is striking; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1JIkK7-fUI
The colour palette used in the unrestored version at say 0:43, (the floating pen scene) reminds me of how my eyes saw film on the cinema screen, decades ago.
The sense of perspective at the same 0:43, seems much more impressive. I can only imagine what it is going to look like when it finally gets screened.

I'm also liking the trailer; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-1kO_P_M-8
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I do not get the appeal at all. All the unrestored shots look like they're floating in urine. Next they'll be playing it in Cannes with painstakingly restored VHS tracking artifacts.

And here I was grumbling that they never released the THX version of the Star Wars original trilogy on disk and I have to make due with that limited release Laserdisk DVD transfer. Suddenly I have the superior version?
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~8 years ago, I saw a screening of an original 70mm 2001 print at the Cinerama in Seattle. Stands out in my memory as one of the best theatre experiences I've ever had, can only imagine what it was like in the psychadelic heyday. I'd have been a true believer/groupie haha.

I also think the remastered shots look better in that comparison video. I usually prefer cool palettes to warm ones, possibly a post-2000 digital film stockholm syndrome thing. Several cinephile friends of mine seem to prefer the opposite.
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blackoak wrote:I also think the remastered shots look better in that comparison video. I usually prefer cool palettes to warm ones, possibly a post-2000 digital film stockholm syndrome thing. Several cinephile friends of mine seem to prefer the opposite.
I would be firmly in the "warmer tones" camp. What you say here about "post-2000 digital film stockholm syndrome thing", is on point, I feel.
That blue, man. That fuckin blue! It makes everything look "flat" to my eye. Synthetic. Uninteresting.
Like digital audio and tubes to solid-state. Something gets lost in transfer.
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Zen wrote:
blackoak wrote:I also think the remastered shots look better in that comparison video. I usually prefer cool palettes to warm ones, possibly a post-2000 digital film stockholm syndrome thing. Several cinephile friends of mine seem to prefer the opposite.
I would be firmly in the "warmer tones" camp. What you say here about "post-2000 digital film stockholm syndrome thing", is on point, I feel.
That blue, man. That fuckin blue! It makes everything look "flat" to my eye. Synthetic. Uninteresting.
Like digital audio and tubes to solid-state. Something gets lost in transfer.

At (0:17) the sky is turquoise and blacks appear crushed. In other cases, the unrestored scenes looks better, albeit with a nicotine stain.
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The Empire Strikes Back via limited edition bonus DVD. Good stuff. May the 4th be with you!
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Nolan taking an unrestored 2001 for screening at Cannes is clearly the best thing he's ever done.
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GaijinPunch wrote:Are you familiar w/ the restored versus unrestored prints?
No, no. In fact I am shamefully uneducated with the whole photography aspect of film making in general.
Worst case scenario, could this end up being restored less as "Kubrick intended" and more as "Nolan intended"?
Checked out The Musicbox on youtube. Fantastic (and some of those design choices, man, love it!) The world feels like a better place, knowing venues like this still exist.
Not a heck of a lot to know, other than film is a fucking bitch to keep clean after 50 years. The bigger the film (70mm - medium format in this case) means the dust specs are less visible, but nonetheless, something to consider. I am intrigued as to how it will turn out.

Musicbox has like a 90% or higher hit ratio. The only time they pissed me off was when they listed Akira as 35mm Japanese, but it was the STreamline dub. (Walked out). I emailed them and they gave me passes though. They had the option to get subtitled digitally but felt it had to be 35mm or nothing (even two showings). That's unnecessary love for the medium I'm afraid. Everything else they've done has been amazing. Was tempted to go see Woman of Tokyo today complete w/ live piano, but it didn't work out. Probably best thing there was Withnail and I, complete with Q&A with Richard Grant afterwards. Charming. (Also the fullest I've ever seen it).
I would be firmly in the "warmer tones" camp.
Same here. It's probably just more about not only different aesthetic tastes between two different eras, but also the limited possibilities at the time of color correcting film. That's just a stab though.
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I rewatched Chappie on a serious setup and again, for all the movie's flaws - dodgy acting, iffy dialogue, massively farfetched plot developments, and a slightly awkward wrap-up - it's still obviosuly better than Elysium.

Elysium is so poorly made and executed it's borderline unwatchable, and Blomkamp even admitted he blew it really bad. I'm not crazy about Chappie but it's a much better no-brainer action movie and much closer to District 9 in quality than Elysium, so it beggars belief why people tend to favour the latter.

I'm stumped.
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More beloved source material.

People are more sensitive to Short Circuit 2 being ripped off than Zardoz.
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My Blue Heaven
I say Steve Martin has only done few movies better than this. He does a good job playing a feel good mobster. Gotta get this on blu ray at some point.
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lilmanjs wrote:My Blue Heaven
I say Steve Martin has only done few movies better than this. He does a good job playing a feel good mobster. Gotta get this on blu ray at some point.
I always thought LA Story was vastly underrated.
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Not giving this it's own thread.
The Predator trailer.
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Doesn't even deserve its own post.
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why must i cry every tieme :x
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GaijinPunch wrote:Not giving this it's own thread.
The Predator trailer.
Oh my good gad does that look fuckin awful
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At least it validates the current Wikipedia plot summary:
A young boy accidentally triggers the Predators to return to Earth. The universe’s most lethal hunters have genetically upgraded themselves with DNA from other species. Only a crew of former soldiers and a disgruntled science teacher can prevent the end of the human race.
Sounds like it'll make AVP2 look like Citizen Kane.
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Doesn't even deserve its own post.
I should have mixed it in w/ something.
Oh my good gad does that look fuckin awful
The shameful part is the director was in the first one. You would hope he learned something from McTiernan.
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GaijinPunch wrote:I should have mixed it in w/ something.
Not at all. Its so awful it could have stood its own thread for a short burst of mirth :)

Predator (1987)
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