Cloning the Gamecube component cable

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Guspaz wrote:Clearly you've never seen a passive 40+ foot long HDMI cable, they're as thick as garden hoses :)
I mean, that's a completely different ballpark, is it not? You want to get the resistance much lower so you need thicker cabling. I'm talking about your standard 3-6' cables.
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I think this Wii QSB will work well.

There are two different main layouts on the Wii motherboard. I will not be supporting the early model. I just don't want to mess with two different QSB's.

This mod should work on RVL-CPU-40 and newer (Except the mini red one.)

Check your revision from this page: https://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?t ... thread.66/


Its easy to solder to the vias for the data signals.

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Now I need to wait on the main PCB to come in.
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bobrocks95 wrote:It'll be a mini-HDMI port, so you'll have to buy a new cable anyway.
Oh no regular HDMI ports?
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Lawfer wrote:
bobrocks95 wrote:It'll be a mini-HDMI port, so you'll have to buy a new cable anyway.
Oh no regular HDMI ports?
At least the mini-HDMI port is smaller, so less cutting.
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Here are some like doubled captures. They are converted to 1080 with a duo for the hd60 capture device to work. I have another video capture with component from the gcvideo. That I will be uploading as well.

RGBS: https://youtu.be/0T_fY1P0fkk

Official Component Cable: https://youtu.be/cLeXIqZd6nk
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citrus3000psi wrote:Here are some like doubled captures. They are converted to 1080 with a duo for the hd60 capture device to work. I have another video capture with component from the gcvideo. That I will be uploading as well.

RGBS: https://youtu.be/0T_fY1P0fkk

Official Component Cable: https://youtu.be/cLeXIqZd6nk
My official component cables appear to show off more color depth. Although there is that color banding on the GameCube startup. I wonder what could be the cause of that.

RGBS looks extremely good. Very clean and sharp.

Great job, Citrus! :D
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That colorbanding is my ossc. Idk why but it's issue I have with interlaced sources. I can get rid of it by changing the advanced sample options.
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have you decided on a price yet for this, citrus? - The Gamecube one.
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citrus3000psi wrote: RGBS: https://youtu.be/0T_fY1P0fkk

Official Component Cable: https://youtu.be/cLeXIqZd6nk
"The video clip is unavailable" :(
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citrus3000psi wrote:Here are some like doubled captures.
Much appreciated - will check this out.
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citrus3000psi wrote:That colorbanding is my ossc. Idk why but it's issue I have with interlaced sources. I can get rid of it by changing the advanced sample options.
That noise looks similar to this: https://www.videogameperfection.com/for ... sy-output/
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paulb_nl wrote:
citrus3000psi wrote:That colorbanding is my ossc. Idk why but it's issue I have with interlaced sources. I can get rid of it by changing the advanced sample options.
That noise looks similar to this: https://www.videogameperfection.com/for ... sy-output/

Thanks, this looks exactly like my problem. I will see if I can fix it.
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citrus3000psi wrote: RGBS: https://youtu.be/0T_fY1P0fkk

Official Component Cable: https://youtu.be/cLeXIqZd6nk
"The video clip is unavailable" :(
Try again, both videos have like 30 views so people can see them.
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Just compared them on my TV. The mod seems great - from what I can tell there's no discernible difference between the two and the brightness is nicely matched..
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andykara2003 wrote:Just compared them on my TV. The mod seems great - from what I can tell there's no discernible difference between the two and the brightness is nicely matched..
Component seems to have slightly more vibrant colors. And for some reason the picture is slightly smaller. Aside from that, they look identical.
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GeneraLight wrote:Component seems to have slightly more vibrant colors. And for some reason the picture is slightly smaller. Aside from that, they look identical.
I have no compared them really yet. I still plan to mess around with the resistor that will up the voltage on the RGB lines.

The size is from the duo. I used the zoom function to scale up to a full 4:3. Both had jail bars on top and bottom when the OSSC outputted 960.
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citrus3000psi wrote:As I don't have a Pal Wii I can't check this. (Unless someone wants to send me a PAL Wii :wink: )
All Wii's have the same hardware worlwide and the region is set in software, so you could use some homebrew like AnyRegion Changer to change an NTSC Wii into a PAL Wii permanently:-
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/AnyRegion_Changer
You will also need four wad files:-
-EUR System Menu [4.1 recommended]
-Corresponding System Menu IOS [4.1 needs IOS60]
-Region-Select-NUS-v2[E]
-EULA-NUS-v3[E]

the ModMii PC program includes a Wii "Region Change" option which will get you most of the required files, along with a helpful guide on the process:-
https://sourceforge.net/projects/modmii/files/

Alternatively for a quick test if you have any USB loaders you can usually configure the video mode settings to 'force NTSC' or 'force PAL', which once you boot a game should allow you to use RGB once you connect an RGB cable (Might not work if you are initially using Component cables, since they connect two pins together to enable the systems 480p option)
citrus3000psi wrote:I think this Wii QSB will work well.

There are two different main layouts on the Wii motherboard. I will not be supporting the early model. I just don't want to mess with two different QSB's.

This mod should work on RVL-CPU-40 and newer (Except the mini red one.)
Looks great, but is there any chance you may consider a QSB for the four earlier motherboards - RVL-CPU-01/10/20/30?
The reason I ask is that these are the only revisions that support BootMii/boot2, which is really nice to have as it creates a practically unbrickable Wii.

Also, with the current QSB only three GameCube compatible Wii revisions would be supported - RVL-CPU-40/50/60. It also means that the only way you can be sure your getting a Wii with a compatible motherboard is by buying a black/red RVL-001 model, as buying a white model would be a bit of a crapshoot :(
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I'm also really interested to see how the analogue output from WiiDual (RGBs 480p) compares to the Wii's usual 480p output using the official component cables.
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andykara2003 wrote:I'm also really interested to see how the analogue output from WiiDual (RGBs 480p) compares to the Wii's usual 480p output using the official component cables.
Same.
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citrus3000psi wrote: Try again, both videos have like 30 views so people can see them.
Right, this seems to be some issue with my iPad YouTube app, it worked in browser, cheers!
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I have upped some videos of the WII GCVideo DVI mod on my youtube channel. Hopefully citrus solution will be even more better quality wise. Please remember to factor in video compression from youtube, which unfortunately savages the quality.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCqbG ... 22bofpZ9Mg
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juji82 wrote:Please remember to factor in video compression from youtube, which unfortunately savages the quality.
Can't you upload a video on MEGA or something to avoid youtube downgrading the quality?
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juji82 wrote:I have upped some videos of the WII GCVideo DVI mod on my youtube channel. Hopefully citrus solution will be even more better quality wise. Please remember to factor in video compression from youtube, which unfortunately savages the quality.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCqbG ... 22bofpZ9Mg
Hi Mattia - did you have any luck with finding a host for the uncompressed video? Dropbox has 2gb for free if you're up for uploading a couple of snippets?
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I had to make a separate folder for the donkey kong country returns clip, since it was over 15gb file and I had to split it.
Here is the link :
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AqxSYiIg2QbCmkIczKetB1ZWIY5V
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juji82 wrote:I had to make a separate folder for the donkey kong country returns clip, since it was over 15gb file and I had to split it.
Here is the link :
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AqxSYiIg2QbCmkIczKetB1ZWIY5V
Can you clarify which 3 recordings are outside of the Donkey Kong folder? Considering the file sizes I'd like to know before I download one of them.
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You are totally right. Just fixed it. :mrgreen:
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Sneak preview screenshot for 2.4, currently in the "sorting the mess on the development branch" phase:
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Unseen wrote:Sneak preview screenshot for 2.4, currently in the "sorting the mess on the development branch" phase:
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On the Wii this could be very handy for people with an OSSC. :D
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Wii hdmi is going pretty good. Need to push out the hdmi connector more and make some other minor revisons to the qsb board.

https://youtu.be/FIgeZNuL4L8

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Nice one, looks really good - do you also have the analogue side of GCvideo connected or will that come later?
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andykara2003 wrote:Nice one, looks really good - do you also have the analogue side of GCvideo connected or will that come later?
That is a different a board. They will share the same QSB though. (Not the one shown in the pictures.)
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