Fudoh's ode to old display technology

[Taiyaki]

Thank you. So when possible separating composite from s-video makes life easier.

So if I'm not mistaken the BKM-24N is the one needed for S-video? One can get one component + 3x S-video or 3x composite on it if I understand correctly?

[Fudoh]

24N or 27T

And it's 2x component OR 3x s-video OR 6x composite.

S-Video uses 2 BNC ports per input.

[Taiyaki]

Thank you! I'm starting to feel more confident about jumping in.

Are these the kind of cables needed to hookup a component cable for a game system to a tv with bnc inputs?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Component-Video ... 5d41f834e6

As for audio what does everyone do about all the audio cables, do you send it to a switchbox connected to speakers or something?

[Fudoh]

console systems usually have dedicated component cables ending in male RCA connectors, so you're better off just using simple RCA to BNC adapter plugs which you permanently leave on the monitor's BNC connects. Those are around $1 per piece.

[Taiyaki]

Is this what you're talking about?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-BNC-Male-to- ... 3373a22b3b

What do you do for S-video? I only seem to find S-video male to bnc female cables but I would think I need the opposite.

As for audio is there any cheap way of getting audio to stereo speakers without having to buy an amplifier to have all the av connections going to one set of speakers?

[dayo]

@ fudoh if i have a silicon optix image anywhere.
What is the best way to connect to a supergun
I have also a xrgb3 .
Thanks

[Fudoh]

The SOIA (anyplace, not anywhere) does not accept 15khz RGBs, so you cannot connect a Supergun directly. Since the XRGB-3 doesn't add lag in B1 mode, you might wanna try XRGB-3 > RGBHV > SOIA.

[dayo]

Hahaa anywhere sorry
Thanks for your help
Best regards

[Taiyaki]

Hello all,

I was able to find a good S-video female to 2 bnc male after a lot of searching (couldn't find any on ebay or amazon) so I figured I would share for those in the future who are looking for one.

http://www.svideo.com/fsvto2mbnc.html


By the way Fudoh I am looking at buying a 20G1U which appears to have only two changeable slots in the back instead of 4 or 5 like the F1U and 800 instead of 900 for the pixels rows. My question is, can one use a scart switch box with the two different scart types (Japanese and Euro scarts) on the same switch box or would I need to only use one type per switch box? And if so, which is the recommended add on module for extra rgb ports?

Thank you and sorry for being such a noob.

[Fudoh]

for your information: s-video breakout cables are directional, meaning a s-video to BNC cable isn't the same as a BNC to s-video cable.

Technically you cannot add extra RGB ports, since all the expansion modules don't have a sync input. It can be done by adding an extra switch just for the sync signal, but this can get complicated.

[Taiyaki]

Thank you Fudoh, so this means one has to be careful to buy a S-video to 2x BNC and not a BNC to S-video if I understand correctly.

How do you all set up your audio with bvm tv's? From the looks of it I'm going to have a ton of RCA audio cables for each console loose and wondering what I can hook them all up to to get sound on simple stereo speakers without buying an expensive amp.

[Fudoh]

Just make sure that the last breakout cable in the chain (for example the cable going from your RGB switch to the monitor) has audio breakouts as well. You can connect any active speakers there without the need to worry about dedicated audio outputs from all your systems.

[Taiyaki]

Thanks that sounds like the solution if I can get most consoles rgb that would great.

The problem is I have a Japanese Super Famicom and Japanese rgb scart, will that work on a regular switch box that has some EURO scarts hooked up too?

[aggiedean07]

I have been researching high end crt monitors for the past few weeks and I cannot thank Fudoh and the shmups community enough for all of their shared knowledge. I have narrowed my monitor choices to: Ikegami TM20 - 90R, Sony BVM-20F1U, or the Sony PVM-2950q. I believe I am leaning towards the Ikegami for picture quality and the manufacturers date of 2004, however there doesn't seem to be a lot of Ikegami owners nor information on these monitors. I would like the 2950q for the sheer size, but I know the picture quality will not be as fantastic as either of the 20" choices. I would like anyone's thoughts on which is best especially if the tradeoff for size is worth a lesser picture quality for the 2950q. I will be using one of these monitors for NES, SNES, and N64 gaming. Thank you.

[LEGENOARYNINLIA]

The problem is I have a Japanese Super Famicom and Japanese rgb scart, will that work on a regular switch box that has some EURO scarts hooked up too?

Why not use a euro scart cable with the sufami?

[Taiyaki]

Does that work?

I have the original model but with a 1 at the end of the model number which apparently means it has a 1chip or what ever that is.

[niall]

Does that work?

Yes.

[Taiyaki]

Thanks. So what's everyone favorite scart switch box around here?

[plasticxo]

I have a Bandridge one (manual switch) and I'm pretty satisfied with it.

[Taiyaki]

Thanks! The Bandridge appears to be the only good one still available so I just bought one. Has anyone done comparisons shots with the bandridge and a direct connection?

[cjug]

I have a Bandridge one (manual switch) and I'm pretty satisfied with it.

I think I'll have to hurl some daggers at you!

[plasticxo]

Thanks! The Bandridge appears to be the only good one still available so I just bought one. Has anyone done comparisons shots with the bandridge and a direct connection?

I made a test and could not find any difference with my own eyes, so I did not bother taking pictures.

I have a Bandridge one (manual switch) and I'm pretty satisfied with it.

I think I'll have to hurl some daggers at you!

Don't you try, I'm moving too fast
Or is your scart switcher not working ?

[niall]

Thanks. So what's everyone favorite scart switch box around here?

Screw SCART (and those cheap SCART cables) and get yourself an Extron Crosspoint matrix switch: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p1008390

[BubbaMc]

I have been researching high end crt monitors for the past few weeks and I cannot thank Fudoh and the shmups community enough for all of their shared knowledge. I have narrowed my monitor choices to: Ikegami TM20 - 90R, Sony BVM-20F1U, or the Sony PVM-2950q. I believe I am leaning towards the Ikegami for picture quality and the manufacturers date of 2004, however there doesn't seem to be a lot of Ikegami owners nor information on these monitors. I would like the 2950q for the sheer size, but I know the picture quality will not be as fantastic as either of the 20" choices. I would like anyone's thoughts on which is best especially if the tradeoff for size is worth a lesser picture quality for the 2950q. I will be using one of these monitors for NES, SNES, and N64 gaming. Thank you.

Consider the BVM-A20F1U, it'll display pretty much any signal that you can throw at it.

Being 2007+ models, they're starting to become more and more available on ebay.

[Taiyaki]

Has anyone had issues with burn in or other screen problems with BVM's? I'm looking at a BVM-20G1U with over 18000 hours. That sounds like a lot so I'm wondering about other's experiences.

[plasticxo]

18000 hours is a young BVM. Do you mean you actually see some burn in or fear it may have some.
Because as any CRT, a BVM can technically have burn in, it depends on how it was used (fixed image...).

[cjug]

I have a Bandridge one (manual switch) and I'm pretty satisfied with it.

I think I'll have to hurl some daggers at you!

Don't you try, I'm moving too fast
Or is your scart switcher not working ?

Haha, no switch business here, only because of your avatar.

[Taiyaki]

18000 hours is a young BVM. Do you mean you actually see some burn in or fear it may have some.
Because as any CRT, a BVM can technically have burn in, it depends on how it was used (fixed image...).

I can't see the unit in person unfortunately. Good to hear. The seller says no obvious flaws showed up during testing. I'll be hoping for the better. The alternative was a F1U for 100 more and it had no information on the number of hours as the seller said he didn't know.

[Kabal2X]

Fudoh, any thoughts about the Sony PFM-42V1? 42", 480p. My concerns are that, well, its a plasma so it may die anytime, it has more than 10 years of service after all. They're asking US$350 for it, probably can get it for US$300. Worth it?

[BubbaMc]

Anyone know if it's possible to adjust pincushion for the top and bottom edges of the screen on late model BVM's?

Doesn't seem to be in the manual or any menus, wondering if there's something in the service manual.