Little things that annoy the hell out of you

[njiska]

I'm afraid that if I breathe too much or too slow, there will be a jump in the electric bill and it will now be $500!

Maan, that sucks... that's why I've allways lived on apartments which include services like electricity and water on the rent.

I understand exactly how he feels. Living in a townhouse with an unemployed roommate that isn't paying any bills and is still frivolous with the cash he has. It is super annoying. Thank god the deposits I paid last year will be getting applied as credits soon.

[xbl0x180]

I'm afraid that if I breathe too much or too slow, there will be a jump in the electric bill and it will now be $500!

Maan, that sucks... that's why I've allways lived on apartments which include services like electricity and water on the rent.

To rent an apartment with utilities included would cost hundreds of dollars more and the rent would go would up every year

[O. Van Bruce]

I'm afraid that if I breathe too much or too slow, there will be a jump in the electric bill and it will now be $500!

Maan, that sucks... that's why I've allways lived on apartments which include services like electricity and water on the rent.

To rent an apartment with utilities included would cost hundreds of dollars more and the rent would go would up every year

I thought you were sharing an apartment... Seems like the rent works different from place to place. I can live here with 3-5 people in an apartment and pay 250 Euros, including public services.

Well, prices differs from one neighbourhood to another.

And, well, I've been refering to a shared apartment all the time.

[undamned]

Living in a townhouse with an unemployed roommate that isn't paying any bills and is still frivolous with the cash he has. It is super annoying.

Haha, lived like that for a while. Guy I'd lived with previously had a solid track record/work ethic totally went down the toilet with online gaming. I'd come home from work and ask him how the job search was going. Based on his attire, it was clear he had not changed his clothes all day after waking up. Sometimes his mom would call and I'd answer the phone. "How are things going?" I didn't hold back. She was a straight shooter, so she didn't make any excuses for her son. He eventually moved out when it was morbidly clear that he wasn't making any progress on the job front. Kinda ruined our friendship
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[njiska]

Haha, lived like that for a while. Guy I'd lived with previously had a solid track record/work ethic totally went down the toilet with online gaming. I'd come home from work and ask him how the job search was going. Based on his attire, it was clear he had not changed his clothes all day after waking up. Sometimes his mom would call and I'd answer the phone. "How are things going?" I didn't hold back. She was a straight shooter, so she didn't make any excuses for her son. He eventually moved out when it was morbidly clear that he wasn't making any progress on the job front. Kinda ruined our friendship
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Fortunately in our case it hasn't gotten that bad yet. The guy is an old friend of mine and someone I've known for the past decade, but it's really getting on my tits that he doesn't seem to understand the concept of responsibility. Case in point. I've been commenting for the past two weeks that due to unforeseen car expenses I'm having trouble paying a few bills. He doesn't offer to help at all. Jump ahead a week and we're talking about the cottage we're going to in August. He wants to bring the cat with, I comment that my cat doesn't have his shots. Immediately he offers to pay for half of those (we'll over $100), but doesn't understand why that made me pissed off. Even when I mentioned the satellite bill was due and I didn't have all the cash, his response was, "don't pay it and let them shut you off." Asshole was the one who had me install it in the first place so he could watch the playoffs! At 28 this is his first time living on his own and it's starting to show.

Dear god, apparently I need a really good vent.

[DragonInstall]

People who bitch about not having a job, but turn down any job that doesn't pay them top of the dollar for their degree. Also collecting jobless benefits during that process.

Yeah I'm sorry people, the economy isn't great so don't expect to be entitled to the best pay.

Know a few friends in that position. Want to smack them and tell them to just get a job / part time instead of leeching. Something else can come up during that time, at least you'll be a useful member to society.

[njiska]

That's exactly my thought. It's one thing if you're using unemployment benefits to help you keep afloat for a couple months, but if you're not finding any prospects then get a job to pay the bills while you're hunting for the job you want. Then again people this is the product of a society that will pay for everything without asking you to give anything in return.

[xbl0x180]

Maan, that sucks... that's why I've allways lived on apartments which include services like electricity and water on the rent.

To rent an apartment with utilities included would cost hundreds of dollars more and the rent would go would up every year

I thought you were sharing an apartment... Seems like the rent works different from place to place. I can live here with 3-5 people in an apartment and pay 250 Euros, including public services.

Well, prices differs from one neighbourhood to another.

And, well, I've been refering to a shared apartment all the time.

I have tried to look for a place in a city with a similar set up and it would cost hundreds of dollars more. With what I am paying right now, I can only afford places that are much, much worse in terms of crime/safety, schools, city services, roads, and distance from family. Also, if I were to go through the trouble and cost of moving, I would not want to have roommates at all

[BulletMagnet]

It's one thing if you're using unemployment benefits to help you keep afloat for a couple months, but if you're not finding any prospects then get a job to pay the bills while you're hunting for the job you want.

This would be a much easier pill to swallow if more of the jobs out there, full-time ones included, were willing to train at least certain applicants, instead of insisting that every hire have five or more years' experience in the field...or, for that matter, actually paid decently enough to cover said bills.

[njiska]

It's one thing if you're using unemployment benefits to help you keep afloat for a couple months, but if you're not finding any prospects then get a job to pay the bills while you're hunting for the job you want.

This would be a much easier pill to swallow if more of the jobs out there, full-time ones included, were willing to train at least certain applicants, instead of insisting that every hire have five or more years' experience in the field...or, for that matter, actually paid decently enough to cover said bills.

Yeah, the experience thing is a fair complaint. It seems like nothing is entry level anymore.

[Ex-Cyber]

People assuming that of course introverts have no empathy. The irony is palpable.

It's one thing if you're using unemployment benefits to help you keep afloat for a couple months, but if you're not finding any prospects then get a job to pay the bills while you're hunting for the job you want.

This would be a much easier pill to swallow if more of the jobs out there, full-time ones included, were willing to train at least certain applicants, instead of insisting that every hire have five or more years' experience in the field...or, for that matter, actually paid decently enough to cover said bills.

ISTR that there was a period in the late 1990s when some employers expected 5+ years of Java experience, when the only way you could have legitimately gotten that was by being named James Gosling.

[Ed Oscuro]

People assuming that of course introverts have no empathy. The irony is palpable.

I had to think about that one a second

Not to break the train of people doing meritorious work, but I have some minor complaints:

- Valve keeps breaking shit with GoldSrc and other engines, but doesn't fix simple things. Poke 646 isn't playing music in all the places I thought I remembered it. The old "level change and the MP3 shuts off" problem is not going anywhere soon, of course. HL engine games desperately need anisotropic filtering and no mipmaps, but the only way to accomplish this is to really know your HL console commands and additionally know what you're doing with display settings (easy enough to do in Catalyst though).

- In related news, Goldeneye: Source's amazing promised 4.2 release (bots, well on the way to becoming a complete "replacement" for the N64 game now) is delayed due to Valve fiddling with convars (the server browser). Once again, sounds like.

- Why is all the cool stuff being made by companies with bad track records for QA or defects? Well, actually, I haven't had any problem with my Sigma lenses and they are a lot more expensive. People sure love to complain about their bad copies or samples of things, though. Fun story and totally unrelated: Barring any release mishaps, in August Canon is going to roll out a firmware release for 7D, circa 2009 technology, that will nearly double the number of shots you can take in a burst, from 15 to 25. If I had to choose, I'd rather have clean ISO 1600 or better (at least as clean as ISO 400 is now)...but I'm not about to jump to a 7D replacement; camera still works fine.

[Ex-Cyber]

Why is all the cool stuff being made by companies with bad track records for QA or defects?

The Rise of "Worse is Better"

Kind of a sobering read, even though it predicts a "basically good" outcome. Eventually.

[Ed Oscuro]

I've read that before!

Actually what I'm getting at is the massive amounts of "oh god, it is terrible to me, I must post about it everywhere" complaints one sees. Look at almost any Newegg hard drive review. Particularly those from Bob whose shipment was in a shipping container dropped from three stories or more, and promptly picked back up and put on the ship without any wasted words. Many people (myself included) have a tendency to see one incident as emblematic, not just for a product line but for a manufacturer in its entirety. Sometimes it's apparently symptomatic of a real problem (Razer mice drivers...ugh), sometimes it's just fanboyism ("I will never buy a Seagate again!" Well, make that WD now too! Shrinking warranties are one thing, but "this particular specimen of a certain model crapped out on me" is something else entirely. This even goes for IT pros who buy batches and find an abnormally high failure rate: Could be plenty of things; the next lot or truckload might all be better off - you really can't tell, and honestly the manufacturers usually probably don't predict them either, which is not to say they don't lie about what they hear and keep to themselves, but it's probably difficult even to attempt sussing out what's a rare failure with the only reliable data in matching serial numbers - assuming they are given those - as opposed to actual design or production defects they can actually fix; of course it doesn't help that there doesn't appear to be industry standards about how much confidence you have to have in failure rates before you own up to it). Sometimes it's merely "well, I hear that this manufacturer has lots of problems, therefore I will spend double or better on a not at all comparable replacement from another manufacturer which certainly has no lemons in its lineup, AND I WILL BE RIGHT."

But speaking of "worse is better," there is a counter-technological reformation you can see in books like Nicholas G. Carr's "Is Google Making Us Stupid?" No, it, Google, is not making us stupid. What's making us stupid is believing book titles like "Google Is Making Us Stupid" which insists on blaming inanimate objects (because it makes for catchy titles) and corporations for our own gleeful collaboration in preparing our own intellectual slaughter, through laziness and lack of willingness to consider how technology might work (I am sure, to be fair, that Carr actually does consider these things, but you don't get that from his book, or his magazine articles which allege, among other things, that attention spans are shortened; that really is something for the individual to work on). There may be some specialized areas where you really do have machines encroaching on traditional human judgments, like piloting skills, or even potentially driving automobiles or even marking targets for warfare, but nothing says we have to cede authority in even these specialized areas. Tool use is fine; abdicating responsibility is expecting a tool to read the thoughts you'd have had, if you had cared. If electronic conveniences are slowing our brain processes, then maybe we shouldn't use them or at least reconsider our usage patterns. Many complaints, like saying that we are inferior moderns because we can't recite hours of casual conversation like people in preindustrial societies, is definitely begging the question: What sorts of things does your brain need to be able to do in the modern era? You only have so much gray matter, after all. Heck, since the introduction of books, we haven't needed to remember exact quotes. All bemoan the death of the part of the brain responsible for remembering exact quotes! At the same time, I do like Heinlein's quote about what a person should be able to do (and he lists pretty much everything). There's a constant tension between specialization and generalization and it existed before there were humans.

[ED-057]

People assuming that of course introverts have no empathy. The irony is palpable.

Yes that is annoying, but it implies that these people realize that introverts exist. This is a step in the right direction at least.

edit: almost forgot, Flash Player. It has its mysterious update utility which pops up after a reboot, when it has no business doing so (and almost without fail, it is when I have no internet connection and can`t download an update anyway). And lately, it is a slow piece of crap, or at least the stuff running in it is. Some streaming video sites are using more than double the CPU to play video, compared to capturing the actual file and just playing it in VLC (which is what I am having to do now on my laptop because I don`t like watching videos at 2fps)

[Ex-Cyber]

Could be plenty of things; the next lot or truckload might all be better off - you really can't tell, and honestly the manufacturers usually probably don't predict them either, which is not to say they don't lie about what they hear and keep to themselves, but it's probably difficult even to attempt sussing out what's a rare failure with the only reliable data in matching serial numbers - assuming they are given those - as opposed to actual design or production defects they can actually fix; of course it doesn't help that there doesn't appear to be industry standards about how much confidence you have to have in failure rates before you own up to it).

I suspect also that some of the underlying statistical analysis techniques used for calculating specified failure rates assume completely independent risk factors (punch "independent and identically distributed" into Google if this seems like a mysterious conjecture). When you stick a dozen hard drives into the same rack in the same datacenter in the same week (most of which probably came from the same boat/container/truck/pallet/factory batch/etc.), I think it's fair to assume that a good chunk of said independence potentially goes out the window in the context of your particular installation.

[Specineff]

blaming inanimate objects (because it makes for catchy titles) and corporations for our own gleeful collaboration in preparing our own intellectual slaughter, through laziness and lack of willingness to consider how technology might work.

My thoughts exactly. When it comes to the inanimate objects part, my thoughts word by word.

Don't to cause a crapstorm here, guys, but I have to get this off my chest:

I"m sick and tired of that "dey took er jebs!" cry everywhere. Are we really going to believe that the same illegals people get pissed off at for not speaking English, driving without licenses, and whatever other things they get associated with, are the same ones keeping Joe Schmoe and Jack Patriot from finding a job after their years of experience as salesmen, business managers, IT directors, electricians or what have you? Not defending the issue of illegal immigration (considering I myself am Mexican), but all I see Pedro and Juan doing is mowing grass, flipping burgers and loading or unloading moving vans. Rant over.

[emphatic]

Still the most annoying part of my day - people who don't look where they're fucking going. Seems even worse in the summer as these poor excuse for human beings are slow in the head from having too much free time.

[njiska]

You know what's really pissing me off these days? The "Blame the implement, not the person/cause" mentality. Case in point, Toronto. They city has seen a number of shootings occur this year, but what have people been looking to do in response? The City of Vaughan wanted to ban bullets. Others wanted to push for a full ban on handguns either in the GTA, Province or Country. No one seems to care about why these shootings happened, they just assume they never would if there were no guns. It's a stupid mentality because the fact is that they are mostly crime related and a murder would have likely still occurred, just with a different implement. That's of course ignoring the fact that the weapons used were probably illegally acquired anyway.

Then yesterday I see a punch of people tweeting, "In one year, GUNS murdered 35 in Australia, 39 in England and Wales, 194 in Germany, 200 in Canada, and 9,484 in the United States." Guns didn't murder anyone, people did. People with guns, yes, but the root issue is still the people. If no one wants to look at the root cause for the violence, then it will never change. People will just find something else to kill each other with. To put this in perspective, Cars on average kill one american every 16 minutes, but the response isn't to blame the cars and try to ban them, it's to improve roads, improve car safety and improve drivers.

People need to stop and think about the big picture rather than hoping on emotionally driven bandwagons.

[xbl0x180]

blaming inanimate objects (because it makes for catchy titles) and corporations for our own gleeful collaboration in preparing our own intellectual slaughter, through laziness and lack of willingness to consider how technology might work.

My thoughts exactly. When it comes to the inanimate objects part, my thoughts word by word.

Don't to cause a crapstorm here, guys, but I have to get this off my chest:

I"m sick and tired of that "dey took er jebs!" cry everywhere. Are we really going to believe that the same illegals people get pissed off at for not speaking English, driving without licenses, and whatever other things they get associated with, are the same ones keeping Joe Schmoe and Jack Patriot from finding a job after their years of experience as salesmen, business managers, IT directors, electricians or what have you? Not defending the issue of illegal immigration (considering I myself am Mexican), but all I see Pedro and Juan doing is mowing grass, flipping burgers and loading or unloading moving vans. Rant over.

But you are defending illegal immigration and the rest of those criminals. These used to be jobs for high schoolers and recent high school grads. Now we have some of the highest unemployment rates amongst that age demographic, thanks to those uneducated/illiterate, low-skilled peasants

[BulletMagnet]

But you are defending illegal immigration and the rest of those criminals. These used to be jobs for high schoolers and recent high school grads. Now we have some of the highest unemployment rates amongst that age demographic, thanks to those uneducated/illiterate, low-skilled peasants

I'd place at least as much blame on the business owners who continually prefer to circumvent existing hiring laws because they want to hire illegals, seeing as they can treat the latter even more like slaves than they could "legal" employees. And then, of course, insist that their taxes be lowered even more because they're "job creators".

[xbl0x180]

But you are defending illegal immigration and the rest of those criminals. These used to be jobs for high schoolers and recent high school grads. Now we have some of the highest unemployment rates amongst that age demographic, thanks to those uneducated/illiterate, low-skilled peasants

I'd place at least as much blame on the business owners who continually prefer to circumvent existing hiring laws because they want to hire illegals, seeing as they can treat the latter even more like slaves than they could "legal" employees. And then, of course, insist that their taxes be lowered even more because they're "job creators".

That, too. I think there should be civil and criminal liability for hiring illegal immigrants, as well as an increase in taxes for these "job creators" in order to pay for the anchor babies their slaves have here

[DragonInstall]

You know what's really pissing me off these days? The "Blame the implement, not the person/cause" mentality. Case in point, Toronto. They city has seen a number of shootings occur this year, but what have people been looking to do in response? The City of Vaughan wanted to ban bullets. Others wanted to push for a full ban on handguns either in the GTA, Province or Country. No one seems to care about why these shootings happened, they just assume they never would if there were no guns. It's a stupid mentality because the fact is that they are mostly crime related and a murder would have likely still occurred, just with a different implement. That's of course ignoring the fact that the weapons used were probably illegally acquired anyway.

Then yesterday I see a punch of people tweeting, "In one year, GUNS murdered 35 in Australia, 39 in England and Wales, 194 in Germany, 200 in Canada, and 9,484 in the United States." Guns didn't murder anyone, people did. People with guns, yes, but the root issue is still the people. If no one wants to look at the root cause for the violence, then it will never change. People will just find something else to kill each other with. To put this in perspective, Cars on average kill one american every 16 minutes, but the response isn't to blame the cars and try to ban them, it's to improve roads, improve car safety and improve drivers.

People need to stop and think about the big picture rather than hoping on emotionally driven bandwagons.

Yep. People blaming weapons rather than the person. Maybe those people tweeting should also look up murder rates of knives and other objects in those countries. Maybe they should ban knives and other blunt objects. I mean sheesh have some common sense. If someone is going to kill someone, they will do it regardless of the weapon.

If you ban guns you just harm the ones who would use it to defend themselves. Drugs get smuggled in, guns are no exception. If you're a criminal you'll get a gun... Hell knowing full well that law abiding citizen's won't have a weapon to protect themselves, will increase robbery.

It's already been shown that states that banned guns had a higher amount of crime, and murder rates(from guns). So yeah criminals will obtain them and innocent people will suffer.

I'm not even a gun enthusiast... I have a pistol and a shotgun purely for protecting my house / friends / family. I'm sure if someone were to try to rob me, all it would take is me pumping the shotgun once to scare them off.

[Specineff]

But you are defending illegal immigration and the rest of those criminals. These used to be jobs for high schoolers and recent high school grads. Now we have some of the highest unemployment rates amongst that age demographic, thanks to those uneducated/illiterate, low-skilled peasants

Please look at who I quoted as launching the accusation. I doubt that the average out-of-work bank teller, carpenter, salesman, and such has now been replaced by a low-skilled illiterate worker for a lower wage. Now, I don't doubt your point, it's just that I haven't seen any high schoolers posting online about how they can't find a job at McD's because Juan and Pedro took those positions first. (And I'd rather clean toilets than flip burgers. It's higher pay, you're left alone as long as you fulfill your schedule, and you get to play with harmful chemicals. I've done it, and will do it again if need arises.)

In other words, what I'm trying to say is that we can't blame the lack of all kinds of jobs on people who are illegally flipping burgers and raking leaves.

[xbl0x180]

But you are defending illegal immigration and the rest of those criminals. These used to be jobs for high schoolers and recent high school grads. Now we have some of the highest unemployment rates amongst that age demographic, thanks to those uneducated/illiterate, low-skilled peasants

Please look at who I quoted as launching the accusation. I doubt that the average out-of-work bank teller, carpenter, salesman, and such has now been replaced by a low-skilled illiterate worker for a lower wage. Now, I don't doubt your point, it's just that I haven't seen any high schoolers posting online about how they can't find a job at McD's because Juan and Pedro took those positions first. (And I'd rather clean toilets than flip burgers. It's higher pay, you're left alone as long as you fulfill your schedule, and you get to play with harmful chemicals. I've done it, and will do it again if need arises.)

In other words, what I'm trying to say is that we can't blame the lack of all kinds of jobs on people who are illegally flipping burgers and raking leaves.

Of course we can blame them because they, in fact, are taking away work from citizens and legal residents. High unemployment rates among teenagers is a fact. The low skill work of flipping burgers, mowing lawns, delivering the papers - work that would've normally been for teenagers and high schoolers - have all been taken by these Mexican gypsies. This also drives down the wages that this kind of work would pay, so nobody else would want to do this work because it doesn't pay diddly; whereas the slaves from Mexico will do it for cents on the dollar while living packed in squalor. It has to do with the quality of life

[Specineff]

Not sure if trolling, or you just don't comprehend.

Explain to me how illegal burger flipper in Arizona is responsible for truck driver in New Jersey getting laid off. I will NOT dispute the fact that yes, they are taking the position that your average high-schooler (Doubt that they yearn to work on McD's right away after graduation, but I digress) could get employed at. Also a 99-cent cheeseburger is more responsible for the low wages in that kind of business than anything else. Higher wages to be paid mean higher costs to be passed onto the consumer.

But we can't blame them for ALL the other jobs that are lacking. Should you insist on that, I want you to show me proof of anything other than a low-skill position being taken by one of those "mexican gypsies", like you call them. Also, while you're free to jam as many emoticons as you can in your posts (See Randorama's use of the "eyeroll" one), they are not helping drive your point any further.

[Skykid]

Then yesterday I see a punch of people tweeting, "In one year, GUNS murdered 35 in Australia, 39 in England and Wales, 194 in Germany, 200 in Canada, and 9,484 in the United States." Guns didn't murder anyone, people did. People with guns, yes, but the root issue is still the people. If no one wants to look at the root cause for the violence, then it will never change. People will just find something else to kill each other with. To put this in perspective, Cars on average kill one american every 16 minutes, but the response isn't to blame the cars and try to ban them, it's to improve roads, improve car safety and improve drivers.

I absolutely half agree with you. There probably is a long-term social political problem that constitutes to Americans having a greater predilection for committing deadly violence. No idea where that mentality comes from, but in light of the statistics, isn't that even more of a reason for taking away their access to firearms?

It's like throwing a homicidal maniac in a room of civilians a .45 instead of a rubber chicken.

If Americans can't stop shooting people, logic suggests they shouldn't have a right to bear arms.

[xbl0x180]

Not sure if trolling, or you just don't comprehend.

Explain to me how illegal burger flipper in Arizona is responsible for truck driver in New Jersey getting laid off. I will NOT dispute the fact that yes, they are taking the position that your average high-schooler (Doubt that they yearn to work on McD's right away after graduation, but I digress) could get employed at. Also a 99-cent cheeseburger is more responsible for the low wages in that kind of business than anything else. Higher wages to be paid mean higher costs to be passed onto the consumer.

But we can't blame them for ALL the other jobs that are lacking. Should you insist on that, I want you to show me proof of anything other than a low-skill position being taken by one of those "mexican gypsies", like you call them. Also, while you're free to jam as many emoticons as you can in your posts (See Randorama's use of the "eyeroll" one), they are not helping drive your point any further.

Maybe it's because English is your second language and you don't possess enough reading comprehension to understand stuff. The only point I have been making is the fact that illegal immigrants are taking away jobs, unlike the general/ignorant comment you've made that they are not. And why wouldn't a salesman with years of experience not take a job flipping burgers? Hey, if it actually paid decent wages and benefits, it might be better than unemployment. But, see, since there's the alternative of hiring Mexican peasants, why would these jobs be taken by anyone else? I don't give a damn about the 99-cent burger if it means we have to live in the gang-infested, crime-ridden squalor they create wherever they go (hell, just look at how Mexico City was transformed by the same people in the 70s and 80s).

A "99-cent burger" costs A HELL OF A LOT MORE

[DragonInstall]

If Americans can't stop shooting people, logic suggests they shouldn't have a right to bear arms.

Are you insinuating that all Americans just shoot each other with guns? Is that what you've learned about America from Britain? I can assure you that is completely false.

If you meant if a small percentage of Americans can't stop shooting people... then that way of thinking is just wrong also. Should we ban alcohol and cars because a small percentage of idiots kill people drinking & driving?

Lets take a look at the recent incident at the movies. That guy was loaded with guns, but he also knew how to make bomb traps, and put it all around his apt. If he had no guns to work with, I'm pretty sure he could have made homemade bombs and threw a bunch into the crowd.

At this point it has already been proven pointless to ban guns in America. We can't even keep illegal immigrants, drugs, or weapons from being smuggled into the states. If anything, banning guns will just create more crime and murder.

Mexico is a good example of that. Innocent civilians being killed without any ability to protect themselves, while the criminals use it to harm others, including the defenseless. Chicago also lifted a ban on guns after realizing their crime / murder rate actually increased during the ban.

I know you mean well and want the killing from guns to stop, but banning guns doesn't work. If someone plans to kill or go on a rampage, they can find many alternatives. Also America is not a country dedicated to killing one another with firearms. That is some really messed up perception you were taught.

[BulletMagnet]

Should we ban alcohol and cars because a small percentage of idiots kill people drinking & driving?

No, but if someone drinks and drives or fails his driver's test we can take away his driver's license, and we don't leave him a loophole to easily get another one from a "private dealer".