Questions that do not deserve a thread

[Jademalo]

Brilliant, thank you!

If I think of anything that would be useful I'll suggest it in there =]

[Artemio]

Brilliant, thank you!

If I think of anything that would be useful I'll suggest it in there =]

Please redownload the previous zip, it has been updated with the SMPTE color bars... it was harder to adjust for 240p than I imagined, since the divisions are not exact multiples.

[Jademalo]

Brilliant, thank you!

If I think of anything that would be useful I'll suggest it in there =]

Please redownload the previous zip, it has been updated with the SMPTE color bars... it was harder to adjust for 240p than I imagined, since the divisions are not exact multiples.

Great thanks! I'll give it a test in a bit when I get the chance.

[okerlo]

Hello community,
I'm thinking about using an X360 on a PC monitor. The thing is the monitor I want to use has no HDMI input, only vga and dvi.
How does the picture-quality behave in comparison between vga&hdmi and dvi&hdmi? What cable should I get? Something like that?

Greetings

[Fudoh]

DVI and HDMI are the same signal. Just use a HDMI to DVI cable. If your DVI port is in use already, VGA from a 360 isn't bad either. Doesn't make a huge difference.

[Jademalo]

Hello community,
I'm thinking about using an X360 on a PC monitor. The thing is the monitor I want to use has no HDMI input, only vga and dvi.
How does the picture-quality behave in comparison between vga&hdmi and dvi&hdmi? What cable should I get? Something like that?

Greetings

DVI is digital, VGA is Analogue. If I was you, use the Xbox audio splitter thing (http://laptopsockets.co.uk/images/h5.jpg) and an HDMI to DVI adapter. (http://www.gadgetcity.com.au/images/HDMIDVI1.jpg)

Since HDMI is pretty much just DVI-D with audio, you should be fine.

[okerlo]

Alright, thanks guys! Now I know what to buy.

Greetings

[Einzelherz]

When people say the NTSC Gamecube doesn't output RGB, aside from the fact that the multi-out doesn't carry it, do they mean that the system itself doesn't process it internally? I figure if RGB could be tapped from somewhere and re-added to the multi-out pins, someone would have already done it though.

[Jademalo]

As far as I'm aware, the system doesn't output it in NTSC video mode. Instead, it does S-Video on those pins.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Wii has the same problem. If you try to play an NTSC game on a PAL Wii with an RGB cable, you instead get an S-Video output.

[beatsgo]

When people say the NTSC Gamecube doesn't output RGB, aside from the fact that the multi-out doesn't carry it, do they mean that the system itself doesn't process it internally? I figure if RGB could be tapped from somewhere and re-added to the multi-out pins, someone would have already done it though.

So there's two ports: Multi-AV port and Digital AV Out. The Multi-AV port does not output RGB on NTSC GC (PAL does!). The Digital-AV port has digital signals that needs a special chip/nintendo cable to convert thethem into proper RGB/Component signals. I'm not an expert on this but this and that are going to tell you the gist of it.

[mirkvid]

Can I wire up a coin2 switch to my blast city? I don't see coin2 used in the wiring diagram.

I got TMNT and it doesn't have free play. I'd like to play it with my son.

[beatsgo]

Can I wire up a coin2 switch to my blast city? I don't see coin2 used in the wiring diagram.

I got TMNT and it doesn't have free play. I'd like to play it with my son.

Coin2 pin is pin T on the solder side of the board. Connecting a debouncer button (not a switch, the game will give out a coin error if left on) from Coin2 pin to ground shouldn't be a problem.

Reference

[okerlo]

Just a quick question:
How do you play shmups on the Playstation 1? Do you just use the original Sony controller or are there some good arcade-sticks for the ocnsole?

Greetings

[Xyga]

Personally I use the Namco Arcade Stick.
Stock parts aren't great and it is a bit difficult to mod...

The best commercial PS1 sticks were the Hori Real Arcade Pro, and the Konami HyperStick.

HyperStick: http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/ ... preciation
(such a beauty)

The Namco isn't too hard to find, the Hori is kind of rare today, and the Konami is super-rare (f* holy grail of PS1 sticks).

By the way Hori also made the Fighting Stick PS, but I don't like it much...

[LEGENOARYNINLIA]

Personally I use the Namco Arcade Stick.
Stock parts aren't great and it is a bit difficult to mod...

The best commercial PS1 sticks were the Hori Real Arcade Pro, and the Konami HyperStick.

HyperStick: http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/ ... preciation
(such a beauty)

The Namco isn't too hard to find, the Hori is kind of rare today, and the Konami is super-rare (f* holy grail of PS1 sticks).

By the way Hori also made the Fighting Stick PS, but I don't like it much...

I also use the Namco Arcade Stick. I've had mine modded with Sanwa parts, but I didn't think the stock parts were too bad. Good enough for shmupping, not so much for fighting games if you've grown used to Sanwa or Seimitsu, especially since the stick is further away from the buttons than in most control panels.

[Xyga]

I agree they're not bad, just not 'great' (not as good as durable as Sanwa parts or precise as Seimitsu ones).
Still much better than average of course (e.g Hori Fighting Stick II -> total crap stock parts).

[okerlo]

Thanks for your answers!

So the best or lets say cheapest way would be buying the Namco Arcade Stick and someday, it I need it, mod it with Sanwa parts? How difficult is this? I never had an arcade stick yet.

Greetings

[beatsgo]

Kowal got your answer on modding a Namco Arcade Stick

[Xyga]

If you plan to buy one just don't spend too much on it, I'd say it's worth 100$ only in very good condition and boxed.
(therefore less if loose, and even less depending on the level of wear)

For modding google 'namco arcade stick mod' and you'll find several guides.

PS: yup, like kowal's.

[okerlo]

Alright, thanks guys!
That will do it.

[Axelay]

Are there big benefits in using an official playstation one rgb cable with a playstation one .?
And the same for an official ps2 rgb cable . For ps2 .?
Is there a big difference in picture quality ?
Or will a madacatz ps2 gold scart do the trick ?

Can you get away with using a official ps2 rgb cable on a ps1 aswell ?

Thank you I don't mind a one word answer !

[Xan]

Personally I've never seen any official Sony RGB cables except for SCPH-1050, which was only sold in Japan and is wired for JP-21 rather than SCART. The problem with most cables, including the official one, is that they use the CVBS signal for sync and with PAL consoles (both PS1 and PS2) this causes checkerboard patterns on solid colors. So you won't get the best possible image quality.

The solution is either modding your console or buying a modified cable that uses luma for sync. Or maybe there are a few cables out there that were designed for that in the first place, but for some reason most manufacturers didn't think of that...

[Chacranajxy]

Here's a question I've had for a long time that really doesn't deserve a thread.

I've always noticed that when I watch footage of arcade games on Youtube, for example, they always move so smoothly. This, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnb6oqlzdm4. It's hypnotic. I could watch that shit for hours. But when I play the thing on my setup, it's not so smooth. Is my display just a piece of shit? Could I just steal an arcade monitor and have life suddenly be better?

[Xyga]

If it's not smooth it's not your monitor's fault, there's something wrong with your system.
And what you're seeing on that youtube video is an lcd monitor no different from any other lcd display (tv or monitor).
But since you didn't tell what your setup and monitor are and what systems you are plsying with those it's impossible to give you a better reply. ^^

[Chacranajxy]

If it's not smooth it's not your monitor's fault, there's something wrong with your system.
And what you're seeing on that youtube video is an lcd monitor no different from any other lcd display (tv or monitor).
But since you didn't tell what your setup and monitor are and what systems you are plsying with those it's impossible to give you a better reply. ^^

The monitor I've been using for arcade games is an Asus VH236H, which is supposed to be good because it's relatively lag-free... but it also looks like complete shit. I've noticed the issue with basically every source I throw at it. I do play a lot of Cave shmups on the 360 on it.

[Xyga]

Well looking like shit is no surprise for a low-grade TN monitor, what's not normal is visible stutter/hiccups on moving images.
From a 360 directly to the monitor's HDMI or VGA input you shouldn't experience this.
I suppose you have already tried to switch between the monitor's various display modes, pushed the auto-adjust button while playing etc.
If nothing helped then it is possible that this particular monitor's input timings are a little off, or that its internal electronics have been damaged in a way that affects the video signal inputs.
Or... I doubt this is the case but maybe your 360's video output settings are wrong, set on some 50Hz or interlaced output (should be 1080p60Hz full-range, or lower if you wish but nothing 50Hz nor 'i')

[Chacranajxy]

Well looking like shit is no surprise for a low-grade TN monitor, what's not normal is visible stutter/hiccups on moving images.
From a 360 directly to the monitor's HDMI or VGA input you shouldn't experience this.
I suppose you have already tried to switch between the monitor's various display modes, pushed the auto-adjust button while playing etc.
If nothing helped then it is possible that this particular monitor's input timings are a little off, or that its internal electronics have been damaged in a way that affects the video signal inputs.
Or... I doubt this is the case but maybe your 360's video output settings are wrong, set on some 50Hz or interlaced output (should be 1080p60Hz full-range, or lower if you wish but nothing 50Hz nor 'i')

Yep, done all the normal stuff.

I really should chuck this monitor, honestly. Only problem is that finding something halfway decent for HD gaming is tough... can one just buy an arcade monitor? I figure that'd be one way to get something that works.

[Xyga]

If you mean a standalone crt monitor like those found in candy cabs, they've become quite hard to source, and you would need an additional video amplifier (like viletim's) + power source.
It's much easier to go for a used crt tv with rgb scart input, or a crt broadcast monitor if you don't live in Europe.

But if you mean an lcd 'arcade' monitor like those found in HD cabs, well they're no different from hd-ready TVs or digital signage displays.
Most aren't anything great, a waste of money.

Better go for a better PC monitor (much improved models are available today) or a decent low-lag TV (there a a few around like the Sony W6/W7, not 'tate' material though).
We've had a number active discussions about current monitors lately:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50058

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49991

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50283

[Einzelherz]

When people say the NTSC Gamecube doesn't output RGB, aside from the fact that the multi-out doesn't carry it, do they mean that the system itself doesn't process it internally? I figure if RGB could be tapped from somewhere and re-added to the multi-out pins, someone would have already done it though.

So there's two ports: Multi-AV port and Digital AV Out. The Multi-AV port does not output RGB on NTSC GC (PAL does!). The Digital-AV port has digital signals that needs a special chip/nintendo cable to convert thethem into proper RGB/Component signals. I'm not an expert on this but this and that are going to tell you the gist of it.

Yeah I've read all these, and most people also mention converting the Nintendo component cable to output rgb, which would defeat the purpose for me.

What I'm wondering is is the ntsc GameCube like the SNES mini in that the rgb is on the motherboard and just not wired to the multi av (not the digital out) or is there no rgb to be found inside whatsoever?

[Fudoh]

or is there no rgb to be found inside whatsoever?

this.