Cloning the Gamecube component cable

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Lawfer wrote:
Unseen wrote:
Lawfer wrote:So it will offer RGBs then? Great!
Nope, no Sync-on-Blue. RGBS will be available though and RGsB could be implemented with a few firmware changes.
I meant 4 wires, RED, GREED, BLUE and EXT SYNC.
As I understand it, in RGB notation, capital letters refer to signals on discrete wires, whereas lowercase letters refer to additional signals that are muxed with the preceding signal; so, RGBs indicates composite sync muxed with blue, whereas RGBS indicates composite sync on a discrete wire.

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RGBs indicates composite sync muxed with blue
I don't think that exists anywhere, RGBs usually means RGB with sync on composite video doesn't it?
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Pretty sure Unseen was just poking fun with that one. RGBS is correct, but I doubt anyone would confuse the meaning of RGBs as sync-on-blue since it's not a thing.
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BuckoA51 wrote:
RGBs indicates composite sync muxed with blue
I don't think that exists anywhere, RGBs usually means RGB with sync on composite video doesn't it?
Perhaps not on blue, but Extron uses both RGsB and RsGsBs and RGBS with that specific capitalization.
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bobrocks95 wrote:Pretty sure Unseen was just poking fun with that one. RGBS is correct, but I doubt anyone would confuse the meaning of RGBs as sync-on-blue since it's not a thing.
What about sync-on-red or sync-on-sync?
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Technically RGBS is sync-on-sync.
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Guspaz wrote:Technically RGBS is sync-on-sync.
Thanks
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He doesn’t read anything, just asks a million questions that have either been answered or have no relevance.
Unseen wrote:
GeneraLight wrote:Will RGB and HDMI be able to output 240p, 480i and 480p on the GameCube and Wii as well?
Have you read anything posted in this thread except the last page?
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I wish gcvideo had an integer scaling mode like ultrahdmi.
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strayan wrote:I wish gcvideo had an integer scaling mode like ultrahdmi.
A good scaler cost alot though, if it had a scaling mode, it would increase the price by a non-negligable amount but give less than ideal results.
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Thoughts on the integer scaling craze...

People: Give us integer scaling..!
Devs: OK
People: WTF is this blocky shit?
Devs: *sigh*
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BuckoA51 wrote:Thoughts on the integer scaling craze...

People: Give us integer scaling..!
Devs: OK
People: WTF is this blocky shit?
Devs: *sigh*
Haha, this!
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BuckoA51 wrote:Thoughts on the integer scaling craze...

People: Give us integer scaling..!
Devs: OK
People: WTF is this blocky shit?
Devs: *sigh*
There's no way that's the same group of people. Those who want integer scaling know what it is and exactly why they want it.
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FBX wrote:There's no way that's the same group of people. Those who want integer scaling know what it is and exactly why they want it.
agreed
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FBX wrote:
BuckoA51 wrote:Thoughts on the integer scaling craze...

People: Give us integer scaling..!
Devs: OK
People: WTF is this blocky shit?
Devs: *sigh*
There's no way that's the same group of people. Those who want integer scaling know what it is and exactly why they want it.
Lots of people have been getting into vintage games lately and some have turned an eye to hardware. They hear that PVMs, OSSC combo, Framemeister, or whatever is 'the best' and they must have them. Many of them don't even like how it looks in the end :lol:.

I assume that's the group of people Bucko is referring to.
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I've been meaning to do some 480p LineX2 captures with the OSSC since I got RGB working. It maybe something I tackle this weekend.

Anybody have any requests?
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strayan wrote:I wish gcvideo had an integer scaling mode like ultrahdmi.
Really? Great - implement it and send a patch or pull request.

I don't see the point of integer scaling CEA video modes - if you have anything less than an 8K display, the result will have the wrong aspect ratio (PAL pixel aspect ratio is 12:11, NTSC is 10:11) and/or you are being lied to because it's actually a non-integer scaling factor in at least one direction.
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citrus3000psi wrote:I've been meaning to do some 480p LineX2 captures with the OSSC since I got RGB working. It maybe something I tackle this weekend.

Anybody have any requests?
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Unseen wrote:I don't see the point of integer scaling CEA video modes - if you have anything less than an 8K display, the result will have the wrong aspect ratio (PAL pixel aspect ratio is 12:11, NTSC is 10:11) and/or you are being lied to because it's actually a non-integer scaling factor in at least one direction.
This could be fixed with software, but integer scaling is only good for a few specific use cases.
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citrus3000psi wrote:I've been meaning to do some 480p LineX2 captures with the OSSC since I got RGB working. It maybe something I tackle this weekend.

Anybody have any requests?
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Good lord.. Whatever you think is appropriate would be most appreciated Citrus.
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Are you a troll? Or are you serious?
GeneraLight wrote:
citrus3000psi wrote:I've been meaning to do some 480p LineX2 captures with the OSSC since I got RGB working. It maybe something I tackle this weekend.

Anybody have any requests?
Animal Crossing
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Chibi Robo
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
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F-Zero GX
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Kirby Air Ride
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 4
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Smash Bros. Melee
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
The Legend of Zelda: Master Quest / Collector's Edition
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tjstogy wrote:Are you a troll? Or are you serious?
How about you shut the fuck up and go hide in your corner you stupid little shit.
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GeneraLight wrote:
tjstogy wrote:Are you a troll? Or are you serious?
How about you shut the fuck up and go hide in your corner you stupid little shit.
Wow. That was a bang-zoom-to-the-moon! :-P
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GeneraLight wrote:
tjstogy wrote:Are you a troll? Or are you serious?
How about you shut the fuck up and go hide in your corner you stupid little shit.
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GeneraLight wrote:
citrus3000psi wrote:I've been meaning to do some 480p LineX2 captures with the OSSC since I got RGB working. It maybe something I tackle this weekend.
Spoiler
Anybody have any requests?
Animal Crossing
Baiten Kaitos
Chibi Robo
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
F-Zero GX
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Gladius
Ikaruga
Kirby Air Ride
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 4
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Smash Bros. Melee
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
The Legend of Zelda: Master Quest / Collector's Edition
Wario World


that's actually a pretty good list of games, reminds me that I need to play Crystal Chronicles GCN at least once. I tested Mario kart Wii and Tekken 4 in 480p LineX2 mode just a few days ago, I thought both looked fantastic on both my video scaler and directly into a vga monitor.
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He asked if anyone had any requests for a capture, and like a troll (or just an imbecile), you posted over 2 dozen requests.

You blow up every thread with questions that have either been answered, are completely erroneous, or have no relevance.

So, my question remains: are you a troll, or are you serious (i.e. mentally challenged)?
GeneraLight wrote:
tjstogy wrote:Are you a troll? Or are you serious?
How about you shut the fuck up and go hide in your corner you stupid little shit.
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On a serious note, these probably would cover a good spectrum of the gamecubes capabilities. RE4 was probably the best looking GCN game so seeing it in the best possible state would be nice.

Wind waker
RE4
FZero GX
Rogue Squadron 2 or 3

I really don't understand what GeneraLight is trying to accomplish
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pyroman512 wrote:On a serious note, these probably would cover a good spectrum of the gamecubes capabilities. RE4 was probably the best looking GCN game so seeing it in the best possible state would be nice.

Wind waker
RE4
FZero GX
Rogue Squadron 2 or 3

I really don't understand what GeneraLight is trying to accomplish
Resident Evil 4 did have some pretty amazing graphics for its time, but as I recall it used kind of a fake widescreen mode that cuts out quite a bit of the picture, similar to what the Evil within does. assuming that was for performance and not just a stylistic choice.

(off-topic)
Spoiler
I don't think there was any malice or ill intent on GeneraLight's part when he listed all of those game titles, he just kind of pasted down a list of some of the best games on the system as suggestions. it might've been somewhat ineloquent but it's not like it was a demand or a mandate of any kind, citrus3000psi asked for some ideas on what to try out, he could pick from any number of titles. GeneraLight was merely listing what he thought (I assume) would probably be a "short" list of some of the best titles for the GameCube, or least titles everybody is familiar with for the most part. ( and who knows what citrus3000psi even has in his library) this is all for video games and video games are supposed to be fun-ish. no reason to get salty about any of this. it also feels a bit like some users are getting "offended" on citrus3000psi's behalf instead of just waiting for him to respond.

(on topic)
after watching few clips from the recent retro roundtable (and metal Jesus rocks's "party" video), I'm wondering if there's a better way to handle all this GC video stuff? digital GameCube's are getting rarer by the day and having something that has a very high chance of killing them floating around in the wild is more than a little bit concerning.
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Based on what Voultar said in that roundtable I got the impression the "better way" is to use a properly designed plug. Also I haven't heard of anyone frying their GC with an official component cable so this may be the solution. However it might also be that case that the official cables don't feed back the 12V into the GameCube when wiggled - in that case proper plug is not sufficient.
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