Another day, another shooting in the US

[Bananamatic]

just get truck surrender bins...

[Rob]

We had a truck of peace attack in NY.

Authorities say he came to the United States seven years ago from Uzbekistan under what is called the Diversity Visa Program,

Just a reminder that we have a Diversity Visa Lottery. Perfectly sensible, and only 8 (?) people and all of their friends and family had to pay for this guy's prize.

[Skykid]

Terrible. My condolences to the relatives and to the entirety of the US who have had to be reminded of the scum in their midst. The UK suffered this so much recently I know how it feels.

[austere]

Just a reminder that we have a Diversity Visa Lottery. Perfectly sensible, and only 8 (?) people and all of their friends and family had to pay for this guy's prize.

"Bu- but this is a small price to pay for the vital virtue signalling it entails!"

What ever happened to migration being based on skills and changing demands/industries between nations...

[evil_ash_xero]

Terrible. My condolences to the relatives and to the entirety of the US who have had to be reminded of the scum in their midst. The UK suffered this so much recently I know how it feels.

Western Europe is really paying the price for being so "open". There's a lot of powerful people who want to do the same to the U.S.. It's mind-numbing.

[FinalBaton]

Western Europe is really paying the price for being so "open". There's a lot of powerful people who want to do the same to the U.S.. It's mind-numbing.

Wasn't it in Sweden that there's been a gigantic organized rape on new year's eve last year(or the one before?) where all the the condemned rapists were migrants, and where the vast majority of the reported rapists were migrants, as said by the state?

It's good to have an immigration policy in place, but looks like Sweden's, amongst others, is too open.

One of my buddies who goes there every year for business says that there's a/some neighborhood(s) that basically look like warzones now. Don't know how much he's exagerating here


Canada is opening up more and more, I think we're moving towards the western-european model.
Lots of migrants came in this year from the US, bypassing the regular immigration doors. Which irked me a bit to be honest.
There's a good selection process in place, why let some people bypass it? why have the doors wide open? I really don't like that...

[Bananamatic]

why let some people bypass it? why have the doors wide open? I really don't like that...

one year later you'll own a tiki torch and 20 white polos

[emphatic]

It's good to have an immigration policy in place, but looks like Sweden's, amongst others, is too open.

One of my buddies who goes there every year for business says that there's a/some neighborhood(s) that basically look like warzones now. Don't know how much he's exagerating here

Don't know about war zone, but there are at least 50 areas across the country many refer to as no-go zones. If the police have to enter, they have to have a backup vehicle that just guards the other car, or it will likely be set on fire.

Some gangs attack police officers in their homes, or loosen bolts on the wheels of firetrucks. They throw rocks at ambulances and threaten ER staff at hospitals. There are shootings several times a week. The mainstream media always describe the attackers only by gender, colour of clothing, very vague unless it's a white male. If you ask for a better description, you're automatically a racist.

[FinalBaton]

why let some people bypass it? why have the doors wide open? I really don't like that...

one year later you'll own a tiki torch and 20 white polos

Calm down. It's possible to be critical without being full-on alt-right...
Don't believe the I N T E R N E T. Not everyone is either radical right or radical left...

[FinalBaton]

Don't know about war zone, but there are at least 50 areas across the country many refer to as no-go zones. If the police have to enter, they have to have a backup vehicle that just guards the other car, or it will likely be set on fire.

Some gangs attack police officers in their homes, or loosen bolts on the wheels of firetrucks. They throw rocks at ambulances and threaten ER staff at hospitals. There are shootings several times a week. The mainstream media always describe the attackers only by gender, colour of clothing, very vague unless it's a white male. If you ask for a better description, you're automatically a racist.

Damn... that's pretty brutal

[BulletMagnet]

If anybody believes that a particular country ought to tighten up its immigration policies in some way I'm frankly not versed enough in geopolitics to take a hard line against their viewpoint, but I do feel confident enough, once again, to caution lining up behind anyone in a position of power who presents a harshly anti-immigrant stance as the cure-all for their nation's problems, especially when nearly all of these sorts are at best ignoring and at worst actively exacerbating the root factors sending so many migrants fleeing their homelands in the first place.

Moreover, speaking from a US-centric point of view, it's worth keeping in mind that if a white person had done what this guy did these same folks would be wondering out loud in front of the cameras (but, k'now, just wondering) if this was actually a "false flag" effort to take everyone's guns away.

[neorichieb1971]

As one video I watched stated very well. Its a very few people ruining everything for the genuine ones. I'm in the UK and sometimes when I see a flock of asian ethnics I automatically think the worst. I'm not sure if thats what other people think or not. I'm just pessimistic. I shouldn't feel that way but I do.

[Bananamatic]

Moreover, speaking from a US-centric point of view, it's worth keeping in mind that if a white person had done what this guy did these same folks would be wondering out loud in front of the cameras (but, k'now, just wondering) if this was actually a "false flag" effort to take everyone's guns away.

but he didn't even use a gun

As one video I watched stated very well. Its a very few people ruining everything for the genuine ones. I'm in the UK and sometimes when I see a flock of asian ethnics I automatically think the worst. I'm not sure if thats what other people think or not. I'm just pessimistic. I shouldn't feel that way but I do.

"asian"
though I find it funny that as a filthy eastern european, the one guy I met at the driving school who wanted to move to britain because it's apparently way better there didn't even know english and ended up trying to bribe the examiner, never seen him again after that
wouldn't be surprised if a good portion of immigrants are similar awful people who just blame their country instead of themselves so they shit up someone else's country instead of their own
can't even blame the british if that's the case

[Rob]

lining up behind anyone in a position of power who presents a harshly anti-immigrant stance as the cure-all for their nation's problems,

It wouldn't be a cure-all, but it would be a cure for the immigration problem. I can only imagine what "harshly anti-immigrant" means - no porous border, no diversity lottery, less than 1 million people a year...? These are moderate things. I personally think we could go for next to no immigration (elite talent only) for a while and try to get the unemployed employed.

[Mischief Maker]

You know what's the best part about getting rid of the diversity lottery?

It doesn't take any money away from the massive tax cuts for himself and his cronies that Trump just proposed cutting anti-terrorism funding to cover!

[austere]

There are shootings several times a week. The mainstream media always describe the attackers only by gender, colour of clothing, very vague unless it's a white male. If you ask for a better description, you're automatically a racist.

The thing about this strategy is it will only work if they're able to keep opposition silent forever. How long can they keep it going?

[BulletMagnet]

I can only imagine what "harshly anti-immigrant" means

What I already said it means: constantly haranguing and hunting down migrants while, out of ignorance, malice or both, doing absolutely nothing about the circumstances (and the people behind those circumstances) that made them migrants to begin with.

I personally think we could go for next to no immigration (elite talent only) for a while and try to get the unemployed employed.

To follow up on Mischief's post (and pretending that you're actually taking this issue seriously), we have an absolutely perfect example of this in the USA right now - leadership which is all about "big beautiful walls" and threats to send foreigners to Guantanamo, while simultaneously furiously backpedaling on climate science, diplomacy, education, human rights, birth control, corporate hiring, and a host of other initiatives that might make an actual difference on immigration. And what for? To help their own downtrodden populace get back on its feet? No, stupid, to throw millions of them off of the health care rolls, take away decades of legal and environmental protections, and give themselves a massive windfall even after decades of outstripping the rest of the populace and putting us in the state we're in. But of course it's really the migrants' fault, and only the white genocide bleeding hearts could possibly think otherwise.

[MintyTheCat]

lining up behind anyone in a position of power who presents a harshly anti-immigrant stance as the cure-all for their nation's problems,

It wouldn't be a cure-all, but it would be a cure for the immigration problem. I can only imagine what "harshly anti-immigrant" means - no porous border, no diversity lottery, less than 1 million people a year...? These are moderate things. I personally think we could go for next to no immigration (elite talent only) for a while and try to get the unemployed employed.

The absolute extremes of socialism would not even dare do that It's way easier just to ship people in. Plus, most of the time it boils down to the jobs that others don't want to do or the jobs that the locals by percentage can't do. Mostly top end medical, care, finance, science and engineering, hospitality, retail and maybe service. Using our economic social models I'd be amazed, no, I'd fall over in shock if they ever even began to 'get the unemployed employed'. The more capitalistic your country the less likely it will happen. I saw way more homeless in Switzerland than in Austria and Germany put together - why would that be do you feel?

There is no 'cure' for immigration, it's going to happen as a solution to all manner of short-comings. Higher taxation on 'being old' - will that work? It will have to. But the ratios just aren't going to work out under the current model. We no longer live in a world whereby the folks in our countries have a retirement to working ration of 1:10, 1:20 and it'll end up being 1:3, 1:2 and worse 1/10:1 and then what happens? More debt?

Expect to be taxed through the ass all the way until the end. I know it sounds cynical but, well, a system has to run and it will run. It can achieve this by taxing the sitting ducks but can it simply tax the ones without any cash? Not really, i.e. the young, under-skilled can be taxed through what they consume and such but not much else.

It is best to look at the less socialistic countries for the signs of this happening as they tend to relax policies first I tend to find.

[emphatic]

There are shootings several times a week. The mainstream media always describe the attackers only by gender, colour of clothing, very vague unless it's a white male. If you ask for a better description, you're automatically a racist.

The thing about this strategy is it will only work if they're able to keep opposition silent forever. How long can they keep it going?

Look at Tim Poole's videos from Sweden. In his first video, he didn't find much to report and was awarded a hero status by Swedish mainstream media. Then he found stuff and was labeled "a threat to democracy".

[Mischief Maker]

Someone mentioned London in the previous page.

In High School I visited London for a band trip and had lots of fun.

A month later I turned on the news and saw that the IRA had exploded a bomb right at the spot I'd been hanging out the most.

We need a ban on Catholics, especially White Catholics, until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

How long can the liberals keep a lid on this?

[ZacharyB]

Speaking of which... Another shooting last night, in Colorado, at a Walmart. 3 dead.

[Zen]

There are shootings several times a week. The mainstream media always describe the attackers only by gender, colour of clothing, very vague unless it's a white male. If you ask for a better description, you're automatically a racist.

The thing about this strategy is it will only work if they're able to keep opposition silent forever. How long can they keep it going?

The strategy has been working, in various forms, since 1945.
The opposition? The opposition only becomes a concern when a charismatic, white, male leader emerges like Jörg Haider the Austrian politician who got "car-crashed" in 2008,
or the ascendant Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, who received 5 bullets to the back and head, in full public view, days before the general election of 2002,
or the orator and English politician Nigel Farage who had an "accidental plane crash" in 2010 (six months later the pilot of that aircraft threatened to kill Farage and an official investigating the crash)

The strategy is working.
The information that emphatic plainly stated, is easily found and yet people are shocked when they hear it.
A cursory examination of the nature, number and geographical scope of these issues, is both sobering and recommended.

The strategy, is parroted on this very page, with admonishments to avoid leaders like those I have just mentioned.
Warnings, to maintain herd like behaviour in the face of threat, instead of adopting defensive pack behaviour.
In other words, suicide.

Fatalistic fallacies, that immigration is unstoppable, are repeated until they are believed.
According to this logic, all Germany had to do in 1939, was to focus totally on the lebensborn, breed like rabbits, mass immigrate and voilà, instant Lebensraum!

Also, I'm loving how my friend BulletMagnet appends that climate "science" rider to a moving target Mans a fucking pro!

[neorichieb1971]

The world is filling up with people who are mentally ill. These are people whos prayers are not being answered. Give these people guns, or a cult to follow or simply put them with people that want to shit on everything.. voila.

We are breeding these people right now, as I type....

[austere]

Look at Tim Poole's videos from Sweden. In his first video, he didn't find much to report and was awarded a hero status by Swedish mainstream media. Then he found stuff and was labeled "a threat to democracy".

Ouch. AKs in a shopping mall? What a shame for Sweden, if a society cannot be honest with itself, it will definitely fall in decline.

The opposition? The opposition only becomes a concern when a charismatic, white, male leader emerges

Leaders are important, but what's happening now is a much more difficult scenario for the establishment. Distributed, globalized nationalist movements that support each other using technological means to overcome media censorship. It's forcing them to threaten tech companies to enforce dystopian censorship laws just to maintain the status quo. Who knows what will happen next.

We need a ban on Catholics, especially White Catholics, until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

There haven't been any incidents for a decade and a half since the Belfast agreement satisfied Irish nationalists. What do you think would satisfy a terrorist who runs over a crowd of people without making any demands or delivering a political message?

[quash]

Don't waste your keystrokes. You're dealing with highly developed soy creatures. They see things like this and blame the NRA for misinformation regarding guns:

https://youtu.be/SsMk9ZGseUY

[BulletMagnet]

Also, I'm loving how my friend BulletMagnet appends that climate "science" rider to a moving target

If you're saying that extreme weather events aren't a major factor in many, many migrants' decisions to leave their homelands, and moreover that the best way to figure out how to deal with it is to pretend it's not happening (well, until you can make a buck off of it, same as every other issue) and decimate the budgets of anyone who might conclude otherwise (and, once again, keep the difference for yourself while the people who elected you can fuck off), you're either ignorant as hell or deliberately delirious as quash.

[Mischief Maker]

To be even more specific, climate change caused droughts that triggered the Syrian civil war which created a fertile territory for the nascent ISIS to grab some land and declare its caliphate, triggering waves of muslims fleeing ISIS sharia.

We need a ban on Catholics, especially White Catholics, until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

There haven't been any incidents for a decade and a half since the Belfast agreement satisfied Irish nationalists. What do you think would satisfy a terrorist who runs over a crowd of people without making any demands or delivering a political message?

Whaaaaait a minute! Are you saying the situation is more nuanced than simply, "close the borders and no more terrorism?"

Don't waste your keystrokes. You're dealing with highly developed soy creatures. They see things like this and blame the NRA for misinformation regarding guns:

https://youtu.be/SsMk9ZGseUY

That's not the video I linked. I linked to actual real-life people in the woods showing off their bump stocks. The fact that I chose a video where the smiling bump stock owners were breaking dozens of gun safety rules was a feature, not a bug.

[tomwhite2004]

There haven't been any incidents for a decade and a half since the Belfast agreement satisfied Irish nationalists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-10866072

[Zen]

Also, I'm loving how my friend BulletMagnet appends that climate "science" rider to a moving target

If you're saying that extreme weather events aren't a major factor in many, many migrants' decisions to leave their homelands, and moreover that the best way to figure out how to deal with it is to pretend it's not happening (well, until you can make a buck off of it, same as every other issue) and decimate the budgets of anyone who might conclude otherwise (and, once again, keep the difference for yourself while the people who elected you can fuck off), you're either ignorant as hell or deliberately delirious as quash.

you're either ignorant as hell or deliberately delirious

Oh dear me! Are those my only two options?

My freind, if you invested more time considering your intellectual similitude to this Don,

rather than obsessively attacking the other, you would do yourself a service.

I told you before, BulletMagnet, your brothers are waiting for you with open arms when you are ready. And we've got schnapps!

[Zen]

To be even more specific, climate change caused droughts that triggered the Syrian civil war which created a fertile territory for the nascent ISIS to grab some land and declare its caliphate, triggering waves of muslims fleeing ISIS sharia.

Nothing at all to do with the externally run ouster of Bashar al-Assad, bussing in the Mujahideen/Taliban/Al-Qaeda/Isis/Isil/Is proxy army and murderous geopolitics then?

Actually, Mischief Maker's jabberwocky is a useful litmus test for credulity. Watch the pitch and decide for yourself; https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... REq99KaLX4