Puzzle & Dragons

[Vexorg]

For some reason, I've never really been able to do enough damage to take out KoG Zeus in one hit with any of my main green leads. Even if he's at less than 80% GZL always seems to come up about 20% short amd gets 1-shotted, and Verdandi teams usually have enough HP to tank one hit and beat him in 2, but not consistently enough to farm. My row-heavy Ronia team had much better luck with it, but now I farm KoG with my Shiva Dragon team (which seems to be stronger with rows than TPAs,) which seems a lot safer. I can even do an Urd/Ares combo for a full board of red, which is enough for the one-shot kill.

[cave hermit]

I'm just using my standard bastet subs; I guess I just don't have a real damage sub.

I'm having a bit more luck with awoken shiva, although it isn't that consistent.

Yeah, I might see if I beat Zeus more consistently with my devil team, since I know that it's definitely capable of bursting him down; I just hate having to stall for cool downs.

Also thanks GuiGui

[Necronopticous]

I have never even entered arena. I may run it once we are able to farm dark resist latents.

[guigui]

With AShiva, you could also consider adding King Flamie to burst Zeus :
AShiva / RG Liu Bei (you lucky boy) / Flamie / ? / ?
Liu Bei active should produce enough reds to make 2 or 3 TPAs and kill Zeus almost by himself with the help of Flamie, this is not even counting both AShivas. Flex could be Echidna to delay if needed, and/or more orb changers to deal with floor 9.

My current team for KotG farming is LuBu / LuBu / Pandora / Zuoh / Ronia / Ronia.
I very rarely need the dupe Ronia and LuBu, and have enough HP to tank one Zeus hit anyway. This team never misses.

[Jon]

Wow, I completely missed the boat on the Awoken Pandora announcement.
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2662

Urd finally got her ult. as well. My Shiva team weeps bitter tears for not having her.
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2663

I have never even entered arena. I may run it once we are able to farm dark resist latents.

What is the reward for clearing arena?

[guigui]

Damned, dare I say, Urd has that most marvelous art ever.

Reward for clearing Arena ? Random color Pii, nothing less.

[Vexorg]

I think I'd prefer one of the orb enhances being replaced with a TPA, but my Shiva Dragon should be pretty happy with UEvo Urd.

[Aisha]

Ultimate Arena 2 (which will eventually replace the arena we have in NA now) awards a random Pii and colored PreDRA, but it's also a lot tougher than the first version of the dungeon. It also serves as a measuring stick for teams, just like the first iteration of the dungeon did.

The next patch notes for the Korean version confirm that 3-minute stamina and multiplayer are on their way. NA and EU will probably get those within the next 48 hours, and if not then probably the patch after. Another thing to note is that fairies, chasers, and bowl demons will no longer need to be evolved in order to skill things up, which is really convenient if you want to skill something like light Metatron or Andromeda up.

[guigui]

Pretty hyped about today’s update. I happen to own 4/5 Heroes god without even rolling for them, they are curently recieving super Ults which will be way easier to skill, thanks GH.

Also, Sonia’s skill up fodder will rotate to color PreDra. Does that mean that it will not rotate back to trifruits ? As I understand it, PreDras are hard to get.

[Aisha]

Except Pandora -- she gets and Awoken form because she won the pantheon category in the latest evolution survey. I was thinking about using her in my upcoming dark teams but now I don't really want to because it means I'll need more Badpys, and I already need around 14 of them.

I'm not sure when it will come to NA and EU, but there is a guerrilla dungeon with colored PreDRAs and latent TAMADRA: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1925 Of course, drops on each floor aren't guaranteed. When this dungeon was introduced to JP the colored PreDRA skilled up the Norns, so I assume skills will still rotate since ours would be different otherwise.

[cave hermit]

The good news is I now have awoken Sakuya!

The bad news is I'll need 25 more rank ups to accommodate my current planned team, even if I don't ult evo my second Kali and my izanami (the rank costs on GFEs and descend bosses is disproportionately high...)

Not to mention I'll need a ton of tamadras.

Would it be worth using Pis on awoken Sakuya, or should I just feed spirit jewels whenever I get them?
I wasn't lucky enough to get skill ups with the jewels used to ult evo her, but I managed to get a skill up off of a spare light jewel I fed her afterwards.

[Jon]

Do you have any other awoken light monsters? I held off and saved the few shynpys I had for awoken Amaterasu.

[cave hermit]

I'll probably have awoken Amaterasu sometime in the future, as I already have one of the descend bosses needed for her, so I suppose it'll probably be best to just use jewels since they're still far more common than Pis.

Edit: And what do you know, I got the other descend boss today. I'll need two more yellow spirit jewels though.

So is awoken Amaterasu a good leader? A good sub for anything?

[Aisha]

As a sub, Awoken Amaterasu is a fantastic bind clearer that you can put into teams that lack one on an as-needed basis. As a leader, she has extremely good recovery meaning that she can usually beat whatever she can trade blows with. Her biggest issue is that she has low HP so there will be quite a bit of content that she can't handle. You can also make a Norn-like farming team with her: Awoken Amaterasu - light Kali - light Kali - Sun Quan - Da Qiao (L/L)/Valkyrie Rose/Verche - Awoken Amaterasu, for example.

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I don't know whether I should jump for joy or cry in a corner now that Zaerog Infinity is around on a permanent basis, at 40 stamina per run. He's easier to skill up now, but running his dungeon is a chore.

I also really like the music in co-op dungeons. The boss music in particular reminds me of music from the Ys games.

[guigui]

I also like Z8 to be up all time. Played it twice in coop with ABastet, and died twice. That other guy did not combo enough on floor 8, yes 8, not 9, to kill Heavy Metal...
Glad to see that while stamina remains at 40, the xp gained is the same, which makes this dungeon a whooping 1200 xp/stam ! Really need to find a friend with whom clear this consistently

EDIT : hypothetic strategy to clear Zaerog8 "6 combos or you die" floor 9 in multiplayer :

- I bring a direct damage card in my team, say ABastet / ARa / Osiris / Vishnu / Verdandi
- Friend takes whatever Bastet team he owns.
- On floor 8, we get some turns for stalling and make it so that I clear floor 8, friend enters floor 9 and gets skill delayed.
- He does not match, passes his turn to me (I have not been skill delayed, right ?) and I immediatly kill with direct damage.
- I enter floor 10 (or do killing with direct damage will give the turn to friend ?) and use Bastet's Active to gain a turn on Zaerog.
- Someone bursts Zaerog.

Will that work ?

[Necronopticous]

I cleared the new Mythical-Plus version of Z8 with a friend a couple of times earlier tonight. Super fun! guigui, I'd be happy to hop in with you one of these days.

[guigui]

Good work Necro. I also got killed on mythical plus : friend thought he could kill 2 red PreDra with a single green TPA ?! He had Liu Bei ready, but did not use him.
Definitely choose your friend correctly ! In this regard, I'm not so sure I'm the best friend around, but would also be glad to try some coop with you nice veterans here.

[Aisha]

The New Year REM is here! Anyone else pulling? I pulled once and got an Osechi Party Fox, Mitsuki. She's cute. I'm not sure if I'll pull again; a Kanna or Hanzo would be really nice. Sandalphon is also really good for a 4-star card.

I also just had crazy skill-up luck:

Verdandi #2: 4/5, max skilled.
Zaerog Infinity: 7/15, level 9.

I'll try to finish Zaerog Infinity off before this event ends.

[guigui]

Good job on the skill up Aisha, you are stealing all our future skill up thunder !
About that New Year REM, I cannot find the line up, any link ?
Also, Necro now has a big Kanna Lady, where do we get her from ?

[cave hermit]

I rolled twice on the new year machine; got a tengu and a mitsuki. Meh.

I'm slightly tempted to roll once more, but I gotta save my stones for Bastet and Sakuya subs...

Speaking of sakuya subs, apparently Elia from the angel invade event is one of Awoken Sakuya's optimal subs; if I can get her, I'll just need one more sub for an optimal team (awoken Susano), at least according to the reddit guide. Not that it really matters for now given I'm still having trouble with team costs, and Elia's is a whopping 99.

PADx still doesn't seem to be displaying angel invade schedules however, but in the meantime I'm still running Cauchemar descended just in case.
I can clear it about half of the time, maybe slightly less, it's mainly dependent on how lucky I get with board setups on the first and second floors. With Cauchemar himself, if I can get one good hit on him with enough combos to break through his combo shield, I can one shot him, but otherwise his binds are a nightmare (which is probably why the skill is called "Cauchemar Nightmare").

[Jon]

About that New Year REM, I cannot find the line up, any link ?
Also, Necro now has a big Kanna Lady, where do we get her from ?

Setsu did a pretty detailed write up of the new years REM on his blog:

https://setsupad.wordpress.com/2016/02/ ... new-years/

Necro's Kanna is one of the prized 8 star pulls.


Anyone have any pii's show up when running the multiplayer dungeons? I had a bubpy and woodpy invade yesterday and the bubpy actually dropped which was a nice surprise. I am assuming the invade rates are the same as the old alt. coin dungeons?

[Vexorg]

Did 2 pulls, got nothing particularly useful. As I said, I really need to just stop rolling for a while, and focus on getting some of my existing teams into shape. I finally have a decent team for the Shivadra on my main now that I have Awoken Freyr up and running, and I have the Shivadra on my alt hypermaxed now.

Also, how did people do here on the latest ranking dungeon? Both my accounts ended up in the silver tier on this one (my main initiallly got into the < 10% range but fell out of it when /I couldn't improve on my score, and my main got to around 12.6%. To be honest, I didn't care much for this one since it was based a lot on getting the right RNG to get a fast enough run.

[cave hermit]

This was actually the first ranking dungeon I managed to clear; I barely got past the 50th percentile (by 0.3%!)

So is time or the no active skills bonus more significant?

[Necronopticous]

I managed 5.8% on Cauchemar Tournament at the very end of the night last night. It was extremely hard for me to work up the drive to qualify on this one since I loathe the asinine "no awoken skills" restriction. Took me 2 stones of stamina refreshes (~12 attempts) to finally get under 10%. As Vexorg mentioned, it was highly RNG based. Glad to have that filth over and done with.

As a reward to myself, I decided to give a couple of rolls on the New Years REM where I normally would not roll event REMs even once. Shockingly, I rolled Kanna as my very first roll just after midnight--nice way to end the weekend! I rolled once more this morning and got Leilan who isn't too interesting to me, but still makes 2/2 golds on an event REM which is practically unheard of (for me at least).

[Vexorg]

Time seems to be by far the biggest factor for score on ranking dungeons. There isn't a bonus for not using active skills, but there is a -500 point penalty that gets applied if you use an active skill to directly clear a floor without orb matching. For example, if you nuke the floor and kill everything off the penalty will be applied, but if you poison everything (such as on high-DEF enemies) then orb match it won't be applied.

I think pretty much everyone agrees that Awoken Skills Invalid dungeons are just a pain. You basically had to run the tournament dungeon with no active skills because they all took too long to come up (I briefly messed around with putting a 5-turn Gigas in my team but found he didn't do much) which means you are highly dependent on the RNG to give you a board on Cauchemar that can both do decent damage and 5+ combos. I can have my Ares up in 8 turns, but even 2 turns of stalling slows you down too much, since time seems to be about 75% of the score.

[Aisha]

Using a Shiva Dragon team for this ranking dungeon was an easy ~100k or higher score. I don't have one though, but someone told me to try dark Izanami x Shiva Dragon (20x unconditional for fire Gods) and it worked out pretty well. Before that though, I was pulling my hair out not getting anywhere with Bastet, Verdandi, and Sakuya teams. I think after two or three more ranking dungeons, we'll start getting fixed teams supplied by GungHo so everyone will be on even footing.

[cave hermit]

I got Elia to invade my second run of Hera Solvilo today on the second floor; Elia was actually much tougher than the real boss.

I was surprised I could no stone that run, but Phoenix rider's shield active saved me from Elia and Venus's low health kill bursts.

Max skilling Elia seems like it'll be an exercise in futility however. Not that I'll have to worry about that for awhile until I have enough team cost.

[Vexorg]

This was a really bad dungeon for Verdandi teams, mostly due to Flame Baron and his high defense, which required several turns and several actives to get past for me. I wasn't ever able to get my Verdandi teams much higher than around 48% or so.

[guigui]

! So much stuff to do !

- Ranking dungeon ? I cleared it with Verdandi, negative score, never came back. Time makes the score, period.
- Alt technical multiplayer dungeons ? Damn those skill delay, I got killed twice.
- Congrats to Necro for rolling 8 stars !
- I wont roll the NY REM, currently keeping stones and have 100+ now !

- After some experiment in Zaerog8 farming multiplayer :
* I bring ABastet leader and ARa for direct damage
* Friend kills Heavy Metal on floor 8 (I pass turn if needed) he gets skill delayed on floor 9.
* I kill floor 9 with ARa, no "6 combos or you die" stuff, and trigger the timer boost.
* Friend (skill delayed) deals whatever damage he can to floor 10. Z8 dispels timer boost and his shield dies.
* I burst
I think this should work, anything I missed ? Anyone willing to try that ?

[guigui]

Godfest is coming

Day 1 : 3K, Egypt 2
I will not roll here since I stopped chasing Liu Bei when I got my Vishnu.
Hermit, this day 1 is for you : Liu Bei, Osiris, Cao-Cao, Set all make great subs for ABastet and AShiva.

Day 2 : Chinese, Devil
This is my day ! I'll probably roll all my stones 110+ stones here : want any chinese lady, devils will be welcome, and the GFE lineup is good since I dont need any more Odins.

Are you excited ?