Switch 2 General Chat Thread (Aka, the final video game console)

[ryu]

The industry is really weird right now. Normally I'd argue that consoles are here to stay because manufacturers profit too much from the monopolies of their own digital storefronts. But then Sony is actually releasing games on steam instead of extending the PS store to PC hardware. So god knows what the future will look like.

All I know is that I'll eventually lose interest in staying up to date with latest hardware entirely if the trend of either everything AA-AAA being reduced to online multiplayer dopamine treatmills or offline open world dopamine treatmills continues.

[Steven]

There are plenty of advantages. It creates reasons to buy that system

Ok yeah, it's an advantage to the people who make money from selling the system lol.

I count this as a disadvantage in my book, and so should you.

You definitely did not see what I was going for, so I will make it into an example.

In 1990, a person who likes video games wins a contest and is given a choice: receive a free Mega Drive or receive a free PC Engine. This person currently has neither, and because this hypothetical scenario is in 1990, emulation isn't available.

Obviously, these two systems have very few games in common. As a result, the exclusive games for each system will likely decide which is chosen.

We don't even have to go to 1990 for this scenario, either; if the same thing was done in 2022 and the choices were a Switch and a Steam Deck, why would one ever choose the Switch instead of the Steam Deck? The reason would be if the person wants to play Nintendo games. The Steam Deck can absolutely emulate the Switch, but it isn't strong enough to do so properly, so performance will suffer. As a result, you'd optimally choose the Switch if you wanted to play those games. The presence or lack of exclusive games is a perfectly valid reason to buy one system instead of the others. Exclusives are the only reason that I have modern consoles at all. Everything else I play on PC.

Guilty Gear's source code leaked? That's interesting. I think that only came out relatively recently, so someone's getting fired... or perhaps already did.

It is too bad that consoles are all the same shit now. I liked it when every console had an almost completely different library that took advantage of its unique hardware. Yes, you had to buy all of the consoles and a PC if you wanted to play everything, or at least go rent stuff or go to a friend's house to play/borrow whatever you didn't have, but it was better that way. Now it's all the same, with identical games everywhere minus Nintendo exclusives.

At least Nintendo tries to give people a reason to buy their system instead of the other systems. Like what the hell is the difference between PS5 and Xbox now? The controller? Is that all? It certainly seems like it. I have no clue what's even on Xbox; it doesn't exist here, but I imagine it's the same shit that's on PS5, which is also the same shit that's on PS4, which is also the same shit that's on PC.

Microsoft sold Japan region Xbox Series X consoles back in 2022 as I bought one when it was "slim pickings" just to even buy an American Xbox Series X console during the pandemic (as both Amazon & Walmart sites would get their allotted amount to sell only to instantly sell out with all the damn bots/scalpers scooping up the orders at checkout time).

Of course, all Microsoft Series X and Series S consoles are "region-free" regardless of where they're sold worldwide -- that is a given in this day of age. Not mention with the tariffs implemented, Microsoft jacked up the prices of their Series X (with a whopping $100.00 increase) and Series S console (with a insane $80.00 increase) from originally $499.99 usd to $599.99 usd and $349.99 to $429.99 usd respectively just last week. Check out the current price of gaming hardware within the USA region Microsoft Marketplace right now -- it's truly "sticker shock," indeed!

During the pandemic of 2020 through 2022, people were easily paying upwards of $480.00+ for a brand new Series S console and $700.00+ for a brand new Series X console -- those were the days if you wanted either console "bad enough" during that particular point in time ("bite the bullet and pay through the nose" type of situation/deal).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

You can't actually go to the store and buy an Xbox or Xbox games here in most cases. It's almost impossible unless you are looking for 360 stuff, which you can sometimes find at stores that carry used games. Xbox doesn't sell, so most stores don't bother stocking it at all because it's a poor use of shelf space, so you have no choice but to buy it online or go to a huge store like Yodobashi Akiba, which is supposedly the single largest electronics store in the world, so they have enough space to carry Xbox.

I know that at least some people bought the Xbox Series as a sort of consolation prize type of thing when the PS5 was unobtainable, but that's no longer the case, and the PS5 is very easy to obtain now.

The industry is really weird right now. Normally I'd argue that consoles are here to stay because manufacturers profit too much from the monopolies of their own digital storefronts. But then Sony is actually releasing games on steam instead of extending the PS store to PC hardware. So god knows what the future will look like.

All I know is that I'll eventually lose interest in staying up to date with latest hardware entirely if the trend of either everything AA-AAA being reduced to online multiplayer dopamine treatmills or offline open world dopamine treatmills continues.

Remember Google Stadia? Something exactly like that with the PlayStation/Xbox name on it is probably the end goal for Sony and Microsoft, whether we like it or not... and we don't.

[TransatlanticFoe]

NuDoom 3's physical release is confirmed as a disc with less than a CD worth of data on it. It's the latest in a worrying line of similar releases - the big guns are already all in on the Game Key Card.

I came into the Switch 2 concept with optimism - it's going to be a turbocharged Switch with native backwards compatibility and physical releases because Nintendo tends to be family friendly and behind on trends (regardless of good or bad). Nope, outside of first party almost all games announced are Game Key Card - doing exactly what's happening lately with physical releases on other consoles. The backwards compatibility is emulation and it's unclear how good it'll be, or whether issues will be resolved by OS updates or game patches.

Ugh. It's not as though Windows is getting better - it's absolutely not. And GoG releases aren't the norm, even if Linux and Wine were a simple proposition, so I guess I'm out There's always old stuff and Evercade?

[BareKnuckleRoo]

Nope, outside of first party almost all games announced are Game Key Card - doing exactly what's happening lately with physical releases on other consoles. The backwards compatibility is emulation and it's unclear how good it'll be, or whether issues will be resolved by OS updates or game patches.

Oh god. If it's anything like emulation on the Switch, it'll be awful.

For reference, their NES and Game Boy emulators don't allow control remapping, with the defaults being the bottom face button and the right hand face button. This is instead of it being the bottom face button, and the left hand face button, which allows your thumb to rest on both buttons and press one with the ball of the thumb as well as press the other with the tip of the thumb.

Their N64 emulator has Pilot Wings 64, and they've somehow upped the framerate to 60 FPS, but they didn't adjust the rate which you need to tap the button for the Birdman events to account for the new framerate, so you have to tap the button at a frantic rate to stay in the air compared to playing it on original hardware.

Don't expect them to care too much about their Switch library being fully emulated outside of popular, first-party games.

For portability a lot of people are hyped over Steamdeck nowadays, it's apparently a solid kit. But yeah, Nintendo is not a consumer friendly company these days. Do not expect them to care one whit about software preservation on consumer control over their library of games. They've seen repeatedly that they can get people to rebuy their games and hardware over and over despite repeated abuses.

[TransatlanticFoe]

Yeah I remember invisible floors not working properly when I played A Link to the Past on the Switch Online service, and the Mario 3D All-Stars launched with debug cubes showing in places - which apparently was caused by shoddy emulation. Some of the S-Tribute releases are flagged as not working on Switch 2 and I'm not surprised - an emulator within an emulator. If I recall correctly, Batsugun on the Saturn was emulated soooooo... emulator on an emulator on an emulator? At least the WiiU properly played old Wii games.

The Asus ROG Ally, ridiculous name aside, sounds like a better bet for gaming than Steam Deck to me in that it just outright runs Windows 11 - so at least you get GoG. Probably has the battery life of a Sega Nomad, mind you! And they've partnered with Xbox which frankly seems like a death sentence given how their sales have gone.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Nope, outside of first party almost all games announced are Game Key Card - doing exactly what's happening lately with physical releases on other consoles. The backwards compatibility is emulation and it's unclear how good it'll be, or whether issues will be resolved by OS updates or game patches.

Oh god. If it's anything like emulation on the Switch, it'll be awful.

For reference, their NES and Game Boy emulators don't allow control remapping, with the defaults being the bottom face button and the right hand face button. This is instead of it being the bottom face button, and the left hand face button, which allows your thumb to rest on both buttons and press one with the ball of the thumb as well as press the other with the tip of the thumb.

Their N64 emulator has Pilot Wings 64, and they've somehow upped the framerate to 60 FPS, but they didn't adjust the rate which you need to tap the button for the Birdman events to account for the new framerate, so you have to tap the button at a frantic rate to stay in the air compared to playing it on original hardware.

Don't expect them to care too much about their Switch library being fully emulated outside of popular, first-party games.

For portability a lot of people are hyped over Steamdeck nowadays, it's apparently a solid kit. But yeah, Nintendo is not a consumer friendly company these days. Do not expect them to care one whit about software preservation on consumer control over their library of games. They've seen repeatedly that they can get people to rebuy their games and hardware over and over despite repeated abuses.

Yes, ever since Valve started shipping the first batch of Steam Decks back in February of 2022 during the pandemic, it's considered the "grand daddy" of portable PC gaming and the rest is history. Considering that the Steam Deck is quite a "power hungry" beast as it is, I use an external 20,000mAh power bank rated at 64w which runs it for a good hour to an hour & half before switching to it's internal li-po battery pack.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[BryanM]

There is never going to be another shift in technology that could in any way justify that type of terminology - all we will see going forward are iterations, and we will keep getting new games that don't need those iterations at all.

That's something I always wondered about: Graphics have always been the selling point of new generations, so even if we get graphene processors capable of 10+ Ghz clock speeds, what actual difference would you see besides being able to have 500 frames per second or six bajillion rez or whatever. Budgets are fuckin' insane; even $0 gacha games now require like a hundred million just to compete. (I suppose you could make a whole game that's like that Cry;Witch demo, but again, the number of manhours that'd take for a whole game...)

The meme has always been that we'll get a 'GTA7' before we get GTA6, made by AI. It's going to be like a monkey trying to fight a moon in a fist fight, it's just so mind-boggingly asymmetric. John Henry all over again..

Then you get the utter creepiness it would be to have an NPU in a box. Basically a virtual person capable of being a game master that can tailor any game to the preferences of the player...

All of this stuff is so far, far away from the conventional hardware and software we're used to. I guess the end of the line would be jamming a USB cable into your brain and entering the Matrix...

'Better graphics' doesn't even seem like the right framework to think about these things anymore.

There's nothing good about platform-exclusive titles.

I agree just putting everything on PC would be ideal from a consumer's point of view.. Just to be contrarian, it does at least ensure the player has standard input devices that can be unique.

Atari 2600 games for example are not the same without the wheel and button. Driving games are similar. (Watching the youtube videos of hardcore flightsim enthusiasts dumping $5000+ for a rig and having to spend dozens of hours to make sure it still works with their games is a special kind of hell. Let's be serious, normies don't care about this junk as much as we do and there is a lot of value of just plugging some shit in and having it work. Which these bullshit key-cards flush straight down the toilet...)

Fuck me, Ikari Warriors without the rotary joystick. I dream of having that beautiful bitch everytime I play that game...

It all gets back to the having a personality thing some of us liked.

I came into the Switch 2 concept with optimism

Me too, man. It was the easiest thing in the world to land: a small toddler swinging at a ball on a T stick. And then the toddler instead shoves over the stick and wanders back inside to beat gramma with the bat.

I know it's the freakin' apocalypse, but could like one thing stop getting worse?

[Sumez]

There are plenty of advantages. It creates reasons to buy that system

Ok yeah, it's an advantage to the people who make money from selling the system lol.

I count this as a disadvantage in my book, and so should you.

You definitely did not see what I was going for, so I will make it into an example.

In 1990, a person who likes video games wins a contest and is given a choice: receive a free Mega Drive or receive a free PC Engine. This person currently has neither, and because this hypothetical scenario is in 1990, emulation isn't available.

Dude.
What?
That's a horrible example.
If all both of those game libraries were available for the each system, and both were able to run them equally well, there is no fucking scenario where that's not an advantage to the consumer.

The only people who benefit for having exclusive games are the people who want to sell you one system over the other. Trying to claim otherwise is ridiculous, and you have completely failed to justify it so far XD

[Sumez]

Oh god. If it's anything like emulation on the Switch, it'll be awful.

It's not.

That's not saying it won't have issues. But it isn't like that at all. Saying the Switch 2's backwards compatibility is "emulation" is a really misleading description of what it's doing, based on that interview posted earlier in the thread. Console BC support is *always* going to have to emulate various hardware I/O layers, but the Switch 2 isn't powerful enough to software emulate the Switch 1's CPU or graphics hardware.

Yeah I remember invisible floors not working properly when I played A Link to the Past on the Switch Online service

Curious about this. How does a floor "not work properly"?

[TransatlanticFoe]

There are sections where a walkway is invisible (just looks like a giant pit) until you use one of the medallions to briefly show them up. Only on Nintendo's emulation, it's still invisible - broken on ye olde Virtual Console too, apparently.

[Sumez]

Oh, weird.
Funny because on original hardware they are actually visible before you use the spell, but only very slightly. I remember turning TV brightness way up to see them as a kid

[ZellSF]

At least Nintendo tries to give people a reason to buy their system instead of the other systems. Like what the hell is the difference between PS5 and Xbox now? The controller? Is that all? It certainly seems like it. I have no clue what's even on Xbox; it doesn't exist here, but I imagine it's the same shit that's on PS5, which is also the same shit that's on PS4, which is also the same shit that's on PC.

Beside the obvious fact that there's different games available on the PS5 than there is on the Xbox, a rather important difference to me is that all (post-360) Xbox consoles require online activation (effectively really expensive rental devices) while the the base PS5 does not.

For things that matters to me, there's as much of a discernible difference between the PS5 and Xbox as there is between the Steam Deck and the Switch 2. If you discount the games, as you have, Nintendo's hardware or software isn't a that uniquely compelling offer.

NuDoom 3's physical release is confirmed as a disc with less than a CD worth of data on it. It's the latest in a worrying line of similar releases - the big guns are already all in on the Game Key Card.

Microsoft has been on the software-as-service train for a long time, Doom Eternal was just before Microsoft acquired Bethesda. The recently released Indiana Jones game is the same and the Oblivion remake is digital only.

I sort of wanted Doom: The Dark Ages, despite expecting it to be a disappointment, but now that it's out and it turns out it's a rental (and priced at the high end of regular retail price at that) and reviews aren't exactly glowing, yeah no.

[Steven]

Ok yeah, it's an advantage to the people who make money from selling the system lol.

I count this as a disadvantage in my book, and so should you.

You definitely did not see what I was going for, so I will make it into an example.

In 1990, a person who likes video games wins a contest and is given a choice: receive a free Mega Drive or receive a free PC Engine. This person currently has neither, and because this hypothetical scenario is in 1990, emulation isn't available.

Dude.
What?
That's a horrible example.
If all both of those game libraries were available for the each system, and both were able to run them equally well, there is no fucking scenario where that's not an advantage to the consumer.

The only people who benefit for having exclusive games are the people who want to sell you one system over the other. Trying to claim otherwise is ridiculous, and you have completely failed to justify it so far XD

You are clearly not seeing what I am intending to convey, so don't worry about it. It ultimately doesn't matter that much anyway because PC can emulate everything, albeit with varying degrees of success.

At least Nintendo tries to give people a reason to buy their system instead of the other systems. Like what the hell is the difference between PS5 and Xbox now? The controller? Is that all? It certainly seems like it. I have no clue what's even on Xbox; it doesn't exist here, but I imagine it's the same shit that's on PS5, which is also the same shit that's on PS4, which is also the same shit that's on PC.

Beside the obvious fact that there's different games available on the PS5 than there is on the Xbox, a rather important difference to me is that all (post-360) Xbox consoles require online activation (effectively really expensive rental devices) while the the base PS5 does not.

While this is a ridiculous requirement that should not exist, this isn't actually that big of a deal, assuming that it only needs to be activated once. Used Xboxes should still be serviceable provided that they've been used to play games and not unboxed, re-boxed without being used, and then sold. Unsold new stock will theoretically be the problematic one. Fortunately, something tells me that Microsoft, by nature of being one of the top ten largest companies in the world, isn't going anywhere.

This is also still preferable to Denuvo and other things that require permanent or regular online connections. This desire for game publishers to demand constant online connectivity is most likely going to get worse, unfortunately. Buy Blu-rays (and DVDs should an appropriate BD not exist. This is the part where I complain about DS9 again), buy CDs, buy DRM-free lossless/high-resolution music on mora, buy PC games on GOG, buy physical PC games so you can back them up... between licensing issues and DRM, it's going to be annoying as hell to enjoy older media as time goes on. At least it's fortunately impossible to add DRM to physical books.

For things that matters to me, there's as much of a discernible difference between the PS5 and Xbox as there is between the Steam Deck and the Switch 2. If you discount the games, as you have, Nintendo's hardware or software isn't a that uniquely compelling offer.

Handheld mode by itself is enough of a reason to buy a Switch, Switch 2, or handheld PC.

I sort of wanted Doom: The Dark Ages, despite expecting it to be a disappointment, but now that it's out and it turns out it's a rental (and priced at the high end of regular retail price at that) and reviews aren't exactly glowing, yeah no.

There's a new Doom? When did that happen? In any case, this is a perfect example of why everyone who plays video games should buy things on GOG and get DRM-less physical PC games whenever possible.

[Sumez]

I support GOG, but one major issue with it is that you need a PC to play all the games on there.
More "console" PC systems cannot come fast enough, if PC is going to remain the dominant platform for video games in the future.

[ZellSF]

While this is a ridiculous requirement that should not exist, this isn't actually that big of a deal, assuming that it only needs to be activated once. Used Xboxes should still be serviceable provided that they've been used to play games and not unboxed, re-boxed without being used, and then sold. Unsold new stock will theoretically be the problematic one. Fortunately, something tells me that Microsoft, by nature of being one of the top ten largest companies in the world, isn't going anywhere.

People likely want to factory reset their devices when selling them. Especially devices that handle their credit card info, their Youtube history, etc. So if you're buying a used Xbox, you will often be relying on Microsoft to activate it for you.

I too think Microsoft will be around forever. But knowing them, I also think they'll be shutting down those activation servers first chance they get.

Handheld mode by itself is enough of a reason to buy a Switch, Switch 2, or handheld PC.

I really don't follow your logic of how there's no reason to buy the PS5 or Xbox then, unless you were only talking for yourself.

I support GOG, but one major issue with it is that you need a PC to play all the games on there.
More "console" PC systems cannot come fast enough, if PC is going to remain the dominant platform for video games in the future.

I've partially given up on PC gaming. DRM and badly performing ports seems to be everywhere.

As long as the PS4/PS5 version runs at 60 FPS, is playable from disc install and doesn't have controls designed around the PC, that's what I'm going with. Failing that, the Switch/Switch2 version if it meets the same requirements (disc install>game card).

[spmbx]

NuDoom 3's physical release is confirmed as a disc with less than a CD worth of data on it. It's the latest in a worrying line of similar releases - the big guns are already all in on the Game Key Card.

I came into the Switch 2 concept with optimism - it's going to be a turbocharged Switch with native backwards compatibility and physical releases because Nintendo tends to be family friendly and behind on trends (regardless of good or bad). Nope, outside of first party almost all games announced are Game Key Card - doing exactly what's happening lately with physical releases on other consoles. The backwards compatibility is emulation and it's unclear how good it'll be, or whether issues will be resolved by OS updates or game patches.

At least with the switch2's game key cards you know exactly what you're getting, which is more than the roulette you seem to be playing when buying something "physical" for other systems nowadays.

[ZellSF]

At least with the switch2's game key cards you know exactly what you're getting, which is more than the roulette you seem to be playing when buying something "physical" for other systems nowadays.

PS4: 72% games playable without internet, 88% if you don't mind some bugs.
PS5: 69% games playable without internet, 85% if you don't mind some bugs.

Not saying it's great, but there's a misconception that basically all games need day 1 patches to be playable, so making sure no one here thinks that (source: https://www.doesitplay.org/ ).

Also game boxes for PS4/PS5 games often state if they need internet too. I'm not aware of any that are hiding it.

[Sumez]

Based on the games in my own collection, a game being playable without internet connection has basically never been an issue. The only one I can think of is Street Fighter V.
I think it's mostly an issue if you're into online games (where it's a given anyway) or AAA slop.

[TransatlanticFoe]

Microsoft has been on the software-as-service train for a long time, Doom Eternal was just before Microsoft acquired Bethesda. The recently released Indiana Jones game is the same and the Oblivion remake is digital only.

I sort of wanted Doom: The Dark Ages, despite expecting it to be a disappointment, but now that it's out and it turns out it's a rental (and priced at the high end of regular retail price at that) and reviews aren't exactly glowing, yeah no.

It's not even a long time, they've only recently started it proper - although arguably it says more for Xbox's exclusives that it's not been more widespread until lately. Halo Infinite (because of some global launch bullshit) and Forza Horizon 5 both shipped with unplayable builds on disc - but Gears Tactics and Gears 5, for example, are both playable from disc.

But it's happening now and it's happening with A LOT. MS not even releasing some games physical, as you say, no doubt to get your sweet sweet subscription monies and then physical is gone entirely so now you're locked into their store.

And much like streaming services it's about retiring physical so the storefronts can control the market, not a prohibitive production cost - even EA managed to ship the remastered Mass Effect trilogy in a form playable from (I think 3!) discs, but now suddenly no-one can be bothered with multi-disc games. EA recently managed a last-gen version of Jedi Survivor that's playable from disc, almost certainly because it was cheap to do, but the original current gen physical copy has an unplayable partial build.

[BareKnuckleRoo]

And much like streaming services it's about retiring physical so the storefronts can control the market, not a prohibitive production cost

Yeah, it definitely feels like game makers are conspiring together to shift the public's perception of games as things they "own" away from physical media to a digital only system with feelies and toys to sell. And not in a "you are free to backup the software as you please" consumer friendly GoG kind of way.

Console BC support is *always* going to have to emulate various hardware I/O layers, but the Switch 2 isn't powerful enough to software emulate the Switch 1's CPU or graphics hardware.

I'm aware it's quite different to their older console emulators in terms of how the emulation will be handled, but it's more that given their lack of care and attention to executing what is frankly the easy stuff well, I have very low expectations of them pulling this off without issues. If they do, it'll likely be focused only on their first party library of games. I'd be delighted to be wrong though.

For what it's worth I don't like the Switch much either, it was gifted to me. I bought games for it but I likely would never have bought the console myself.

[ZellSF]

Free upgrades for some Nintendo games:
https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-syst ... e-updates/
No update for Super Mario Bros. Wonder yet though, free or paid.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Certain Staples stores across the USA are selling the Switch 2 bundle without a game d/l (the bundled set with an MRSP of $499.99) on June 5, 2025 on a "first come, first served basis." The only stipulation is that, it'll be limited to one set per person and there's no telling just exactly how many each store will be selling their allotted amount though. Costco is selling the Switch 2 as well.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[AGermanArtist]

I'll likely pick up a Switch 2 next week when the initial hype settles, but in saying that, I can't think why I'm bothering other than BC and the fact my Switch library's lifespan will get an extension. There are only 3 games I'm interested in - Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion and F-ZeroGX, and nothing really on the horizon aside from maybe the From Soft thing. I can't help but think I'll get it home, play around with menus and settings, and then it'll sit there until something a bit more meaty is released for it that I haven't played already. I keep thinking maybe I should get a Legion Go and stick a load of emulation on it. I'll likely get both tbh.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Here's the link to the 349 selected Staples across the USA selling the Switch 2 during normal business hours (no midnight sales drop whatsoever) on 6/05/2025: https://www.staples.com/stores/gaming/nintendoswitch2

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It's been confirmed that Staples will sell both the Switch 2 by itself and with a d/l game voucher card.
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PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[TransatlanticFoe]

Mario Kart World - confirmed that most grand prix events are driving in a straight line then one lap around a circuit. WTF Nintendo. Who asked for this? Why?!

Switch 2 upgrades - some Switch titles with a Switch 2 upgrade absolutely will not work without first downloading the upgrade patch:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/130833550

lol not even Microsoft forced Series X patches for xbone games, you could stick the console in offline mode and it'd just install from disc and work.

I feel like, at this point, quit fucking around and just stop doing physical releases. Instead of making them so pointless that people stop buying them. Not holding out much hope for other games working fine in backwards compatibility, never mind the ones with known issues will probably be "fixed" with a mandatory patch to the game, not an update to the compatibility layer.

[ZellSF]

While that's bad, it's still not nearly as bad as Microsoft. Xbox consoles (out of the box or factory reset) are bricks without internet, Switch 2 consoles can play most games provided they're updated.

I tried deleting all my Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury data and when starting it, it forced me to update. Not sure why, but since someone obviously got it working without an update (as per the DoesItPlay post), it suggests to me that there will be lots of wrong information on this in the future because of bad testing methodology.

Other than that I'm mostly happy with how backwards compatibility works on the games I've tested.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

While that's bad, it's still not nearly as bad as Microsoft. Xbox consoles (out of the box or factory reset) are bricks without internet, Switch 2 consoles can play most games provided they're updated.

I tried deleting all my Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury data and when starting it, it forced me to update. Not sure why, but since someone obviously got it working without an update (as per the DoesItPlay post), it suggests to me that there will be lots of wrong information on this in the future because of bad testing methodology.

Other than that I'm mostly happy with how backwards compatibility works on the games I've tested.

Does the Switch port of Shinorubi still have the 30 fps framerate issue if played on the Switch 2 setup? The Last Boss 88 developer team should do a 60fps framerate update/upgrade for the Switch port of Shinorubi as the Switch 2 can handle it with ease.

The Switch port of Pawarumi stg, originally, had a 30fps framerate but it took the development team a whole year of working on it to finally release a proper 60fps framerate update for it.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Some-Mist]

does anyone here have one yet and can confirm whether the physical shottriggers/live wire/rs34 releases (and virtual arcade archives) titles work?
I just watched Russ's (retrogamecorps) impression video and it appears he was able to get his digital content mapped over to the switch 2, but he did very little software impressions (it wasn't the point of this video).

I'm considering grabbing a switch 1 oled as an upgrade from the original one I bought 7 or so years ago, but the retrogamecorp switch 2 comparison to the switch oled makes it seem like there isn't a stark difference between the two

[PC Engine Fan X!]

does anyone here have one yet and can confirm whether the physical shottriggers/live wire/rs34 releases (and virtual arcade archives) titles work?
I just watched Russ's (retrogamecorps) impression video and it appears he was able to get his digital content mapped over to the switch 2, but he did very little software impressions (it wasn't the point of this video).

I'm considering grabbing a switch 1 oled as an upgrade from the original one I bought 7 or so years ago, but the retrogamecorp switch 2 comparison to the switch oled makes it seem like there isn't a stark difference between the two

For Some-Mist,

I'd buy a Oled Switch before Nintendo discontiunues selling it at retail -- it first appeared for sale back in 2021 with a MSRP of $349.99. It's quite an upgrade screen-wise and watching anime through the Switch Crunchyroll & Hulu Plus apps really do "pop" with it's super colorful & improved contrast display using Oled screens manufactured by Samsung themselves. I seriously doubt if Nintendo will release an Oled Switch Lite variant handheld anytime soon but you never know these days.

Nintendo should've released the Switch 2 with an Oled screen from the "get-go" rather than release one three or four years down the road which means having to shell even more money just to upgrade to a Oled Switch 2 setup (considering that the 1st-gen LCD-based Switch was first sold back during it's initial March of 2017 worldwide debut launch and didn't get an Oled screen upgrade until 2021 four years later).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Some-Mist]

does anyone here have one yet and can confirm whether the physical shottriggers/live wire/rs34 releases (and virtual arcade archives) titles work?
I just watched Russ's (retrogamecorps) impression video and it appears he was able to get his digital content mapped over to the switch 2, but he did very little software impressions (it wasn't the point of this video).

I'm considering grabbing a switch 1 oled as an upgrade from the original one I bought 7 or so years ago, but the retrogamecorp switch 2 comparison to the switch oled makes it seem like there isn't a stark difference between the two

For Some-Mist,

I'd buy a Oled Switch before Nintendo discontiunues selling it at retail -- it first appeared for sale back in 2021 with a MSRP of $349.99. It's quite an upgrade screen-wise and watching anime through the Switch Crunchyroll & Hulu Plus apps really do "pop" with it's super colorful & improved contrast display using Oled screens manufactured by Samsung themselves. I seriously doubt if Nintendo will release an Oled Switch Lite variant handheld anytime soon but you never know these days.

Nintendo should've released the Switch 2 with an Oled screen from the "get-go" rather than release one three or four years down the road which means having to shell even more money just to upgrade to a Oled Switch 2 setup (considering that the 1st-gen LCD-based Switch was first sold back during it's initial March of 2017 worldwide debut launch and didn't get an Oled screen upgrade until 2021 four years later).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

that's kind of how I was feeling, and I'm sorta anticipating it's going to go the way of the new nintendo 3ds xl, where it increases in price instead of there being a more accommodating used market for it. I'm most concerned about extending the lifespan of my expansive switch 1 library than anything, and I'm on the fence with switch 2 (I usually wait for 5 exclusive games I wanna play before I buy a new console)