rapoon wrote:
I had absolutely no idea we were 'arguing'!
That makes the two of us.
Please forgive me if I answer to your points below, but if you genuinely believe that you have some correct information to be reported, then I would be glad to read your posts, and I will not even try to "argue", promised.
Of course,
belief and
truth are not the same thing, but please forgive me if I remind you something you certainly
know.
You've repeatedly posted inaccurate claims the last 5 pages and in this instance from a disreputable source and I corrected you.
As in "3 to 5 million deaths" and "10% contagion rate", "this is a bioweapon", and so on? Please point out any bullshit from the links I posted, and why it is bullshit: for these you also need to back up your assertions with an ounce of actual evidence. If you do that, then I will not even remotely write a single word on the matter, once more.
But once more: the death rate for anyone younger than 80, in Italy, is currently 47.7%, with a 35.5% rate for people between 70 and 79, and so on from the previous posts. Death rates are lower if you lump groups in a different way. Technically we are both right. So?
EDIT: Simple point I wish to make (see the link below). The Virus seems deadly for older age segments, but it goes without saying that it is not an excuse to consider oneself impervious to it.
If anything, and I wrote this a few times already, precautions are fundamental as a form of respect towards others. I don't think I could state something more...banal, yes, but fake?
The
bewildering 
aspect of your blathering
This is all written text. Blathering? Whatever makes you happy, no worries for me.
is with the number is doctors, virologists, and epidemiologists that are citing reputable figures on daily basis, it takes greater effort to find disinformation than accurate info.
Why are you not posting them, then? According to you, I am officially posting fake news, all the time. So, how about you post proper links to proper studies by accredited sources? I wonder who these reputable doctors, virologists and epidemiologists might be. Proof?
(i.e. "Please note that Italian newspapers appear to nevertheless avoid mentioning that a 12% of deaths is below 70 years of age." <-- that's unequivocal bullshit)
Please feel free to post links disproving this.
Sai l'italiano? Se no, perche' non lo impari? Di nuovo, se vuoi ti posto il link con l'articolo, cosi' lo leggi e magari mi dici cosa ne pensi (le credenze infondate altrui mi divertono molto). I link li puoi trovare sul sito del giornale "La Repubblica", e magari mi fai anche sapere come puoi dedurre che siano "fake news" con opportuna evidenza.
Anyways, 40 year old guy in China
Would you like to me to prove this? I can, but transparency goes both ways. Who are you?
I vehemently agree we should fuck right off and ignore each others posts.
Agreed, but please do not think that I bear any ill will towards you. Whether you give a shit about it or not.
Once more, even if you would like to strangle me or whatnot: if you spot any misinformation, by all means point it out (if you can, of course, and explain
why). I am thanking you in advance. Then again, please note that I have also posted some links, here and there, and so on.
One example is this one:
On social distancing.
Current contagion, death and recovery stats are easily found via
say, bing.
Here is an interesting fact that I might prove, but it would take me some time (as in: take screenshots from my phone, upload them online, link them here).
The Chinese government has sent official updates stating that all contaged people have healed, so they report roughly 78k recovered. Bing reports 69k or so. I admit that I feel lazy to show the pics, but if someone is curious and gives me an image upload service that works in China, I could do that.
And just to justify Rapoon's claims, I was tempted to post and say "everything fine, here".
Anyway,
Some numbers on previous flu seasons in the US, which show that flu is not meant to be taken lightly.
This is a brief discussion on death rates, focusing on Wuhan, and offering a glimmer of hope that may or may not be justified, and
here is a piece on why Coronavirus is not an equal opportunities killer (also with a focus on Wuhan, and showing that for teens the fatality rate is non-existent).
Whether these numbers may directly inform us on how the epidemic may pan out in other countries is not a straightforward matter to assess, so I won't say a word on it.
Except: if this virus turns out to be weaker than previous flus, and the flu kills 80k people per year in the US, how do we get to 3 to 5 million deaths in the US alone?
The Italian situation is different, but the stats from
IlSole24 are
here (In Italian, and they cite their sources in the article). I cannot be bothered to look up stats on deaths by flu per year in Italy.
My bad if statnews.com is not a reliable source (I only bothered to look up
here).
Last but not least:
The doctors from WHO should have daily updates.
Don't worry, lads. We are all gonna die. Then again, is this something new?
"The only desire the Culture could not satisfy from within itself was one common to both the descendants of its original human stock and the machines [...]: the urge not to feel useless."
I.M. Banks, "Consider Phlebas" (1988: 43).
