Blade Runner 2049

[Skykid]

But art is a science, depending on how it's applied. Don't want to discuss the semantics of 'art' though - that's my one internet debate refusal.

Yeah that was rather aggressive sorry, but because you know, it was obvious I'm not really talking about the same stuff you do (I couldn't efficiently anyway) yet you're here again for the hundreth time with the film science like it's the only thing there is to talk about, so I was like 'gah not again'. hope you get where that came from.
I sure do appreciate all the judgement and input you bring but for the layman it's a bit tiring to be relentlessly reminded of it like it's God's law.

But... This is a film thread. And you raised an interesting point I thought was worth commenting on. That's fair game innit?

[Xyga]

Well I suppose since we don't share the same definition to 'art' to begin and that it's not debatable, it'll be hard to come to an understanding so...heh. Nothing to add. ^^

Except: don't mistake me I'm as conservative as a lot of people here about the importance of fundamentals which I definitely don't deny nor reject, but I'm practically the opposite of a retrograde radical or a fundamentalist, always looking at things under a number of different prisms, can't help it even if that'll tickle the cringe engine of many, and in this case I simply question the rationality of forever putting on a pedestal things of value because they were ticking a fuckton of points under the sky of a different time. Aging doesn't always go well i'm just stating the obvious but, what you may see as superficial layers I see as being part of the whole and when they come off or wear the rest of the body is affected too. There's no 'sacred' unshattering skeleton for me, and I find holding too tightly to past glories a bit toxic (kinda we're all decrepit palpatines shouting NO, NO, NO! RETRO! UNLIMITED RETRO!!), we need them - badly today I agree with you - but they're also covering the horizon if we refuse to let them go return to where they shone the brightest in time. Can we really create anything genuine and new otherwise? yes but it's fucking cramped/tough.

edit: typos fuck me

[Zen]

But art is a science, depending on how it's applied. Don't want to discuss the semantics of 'art' though - that's my one internet debate refusal.

(Genuine, non-loaded question);
Why not? Is the concept of art not fused to practically everything we discuss?

[Durandal]

But art is a science, depending on how it's applied. Don't want to discuss the semantics of 'art' though - that's my one internet debate refusal.

(Genuine, non-loaded question);
Why not? Is the concept of art not fused to practically everything we discuss?

It is, but we don't need to go through the actual definition of art and the application thereof again

[Skykid]

But art is a science, depending on how it's applied. Don't want to discuss the semantics of 'art' though - that's my one internet debate refusal.

(Genuine, non-loaded question);
Why not? Is the concept of art not fused to practically everything we discuss?

Everyone's definition of art is so infinitesimally splintered that there is no possible way for any two people to agree on what constitutes art. I know what I think art 'isnt', and I don't give a fuck if anyone agrees with me or not, so it's better not to attempt the conversation in the first place!

Someone on this forum once argued that Japanese and Korean pop idols were art. After that I refused to ever go near the subject again. Almost vomited in my sleep.

[Xyga]

Someone on this forum once argued that Japanese and Korean pop idols were art.

Maybe that was a typo and he meant 'rats' ?

[Zen]

Everyone's definition of art is so infinitesimally splintered that there is no possible way for any two people to agree on what constitutes art. I know what I think art 'isnt', and I don't give a fuck if anyone agrees with me or not, so it's better not to attempt the conversation in the first place!

Someone on this forum once argued that Japanese and Korean pop idols were art. After that I refused to ever go near the subject again. Almost vomited in my sleep.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:37 pm

Understood. Actually, I think I remember that posting Hopefully you can be coaxed out of premature retirement. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil . . . . . " etc., etc.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

"Blade Runner 2036: Nexus Dawn" short film with new Voight-Kampff test hardware within the Blade Runner universe/timeline -- sets up the story to come fifteen years later in the theatrical release of Blade Runner 2049: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgsS3nhRRzQ

And here's all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 1982 version of Blade Runner for your viewing pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xBKrz0wdsM

Adam Savage compares the real Richard Deckard's PKD blaster prop from the 1982 sci-fi classic, BR, to his own BR gun prop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITiJkdL5QEQ

And here's your chance to own your very own Blade Runner 2049 Blaster prop for $899.95 USD -- only 50 will ever be made/sold with an expected October 2017 delivery date: http://www.hollywood-collectibles.com/s ... 336&page=1 (Would certainly be great to have to while cosplaying as a Blade Runner during Halloween time.)

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Durandal]

Just released:
Blade Runner 2022: The Blackout, an anime short directed by Shinichiro Watanabe, watch it before it gets DMCA'd

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Cool anime short in that it's the final of the three Blade Runner shorts to compliment the upcoming BR 2049 flick. Thank for the heads up on it, Durandal.

I'd imagine that all three BR shorts will be released on Blu-Ray/4K format as a companion/supplimental piece whenever the home video release of BR 2049 is announced for the 2018 timeline. It's a given that the major movie studios are adding the final touches to their home video releases as the theatrical releases dates approaches closer to said day. Makes me wonder if a proper 3D Blu-Ray of BR 2049 will be released?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[MX7]

Seems it's already been taken down. That sucks. Anyway really really surprised to him the new Blade Runner film is getting absolutely excellent reviews. Still a little bit wary, however starting to get my hopes up ever so slightly

[PC Engine Fan X!]

I didn't know that Crunchyroll has the exclsuive rights to stream that BR 2022 anime short, hence why it was removed from YT. Am glad to have watched it when I had the chance to do so.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[GaijinPunch]

Paid up (to Japanese cinema prices) to get tickets for Thursday's IMAX showing, as I'm travelling Friday. At least I won't have to stay off the internet all weekend now.

[Skykid]

Everybody is allowed a one word prediction.

I'm going with: "Disappointing"

[Kaiser]

Everybody is allowed a one word prediction.

I'm going with: "Disappointing"

"Average" which is the worst thing that can happen, because bad movies can be mocked and good movies can be enjoyed (AND THIS works the other way around too), with an average rating, it's just, the worst. Because the "AVERAGE" experience is absolutely nothing to remember or talk about! So i'm betting Average for this one.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Suppose if Ridley Scott had directed this BR 2049 sequel instead of Dennis, would it be better? Kind of hard to say considering that Mr. Scott had his hands tied in directing Alien Covenant with his Scott Free film production company.

I'll reserve my opinion on the upcoming BR 2049 film after having watched it. Not to mention that it will be the first time that a BR film is presented in 3D, indeed.

Makes me wonder for those whom have the exclusive privilege to screen it before the actual release date, what their take on it is? As usual, the actual BR film will be distributed as an encrypted HDD with USB key dongle for use with digital film projection setups -- that's a given in this day of age.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Durandal]

"Valerian"

[Mischief Maker]

"Pandering"

[Strider77]

The reviews/reactions so far have been really positive... what they can say of it anyway.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

That's reassuring to know, if one's going to do a proper sequel to a beloved cult favorite that is BR, by all means do a smart and compelling story to try to match the pace & setting from the first one. Of course, it's quite a high bar to try to match or top it already set with the first one.

So if the Final Cut of BR is canon, then is Deckard a replicant in the BR 2049 flick?

If one goes by the original theatrical release, Deckard is human whereas in the Final Cut version, he's a Replicant. Hmmm.....

If there are some cool high speed chase scenes involving Police spinners, that'd be ace.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[GaijinPunch]

Suppose if Ridley Scott had directed this BR 2049 sequel instead of Dennis, would it be better? Kind of hard to say considering that Mr. Scott had his hands tied in directing Alien Covenant with his Scott Free film production company.

Not hard to say at all: it would suck. Look at his recent track record.

[GaijinPunch]

"Frustrating"

I bought tickets (right dead center) for Navy Pier's Thursday at 7PM showing... and they fucking cancelled it. 10:35 not gonna happen and I fly Friday, so I have to go somewhere with a less jaw-dropping screen.

My real prediction? I think it will be satisfying. I can't think of another director they would realistically hire that would make me even remotely excited. He may not be your cup of tea, but you're really just someone on the internet to me.

[wgogh]

Everybody is allowed a one word prediction.

I'm going with: "Disappointing"

"Average" which is the worst thing that can happen, because bad movies can be mocked and good movies can be enjoyed (AND THIS works the other way around too), with an average rating, it's just, the worst. Because the "AVERAGE" experience is absolutely nothing to remember or talk about! So i'm betting Average for this one.

I share the same thought about the "average". When I movie end up being bad, sometimes I wish it was worse... so I could laugh about and also I would knew that everyone would hate it. Sad to see you saying that about Blade Runner 2049, as I havent seen it yet and Im a fan of the original film like many here probably are.
Well, expectations successfully lowered.

[MintyTheCat]

I was walking past a cinema in Berlin today and they had this massive set up above the entrance with the Blade-Runner artwork - looked cool. We were all talking about it today. I NEED to see it.

[dan76]

So it's been getting good reviews. I haven't read any of them so as not to spoil the film. If there's the slightest chance this won't suck balls that will be something. Don't think much of the trailers and generally I find most modern films boring but I'd love to be wrong about this.

Going to see it on Sunday at the Electric in portobello.

[Mischief Maker]

So if the Final Cut of BR is canon, then is Deckard a replicant in the BR 2049 flick?

Dear god, I hope not.

If Deckard is a replicant, then his final confrontation with Roy Batty on the rooftop at the end is essentially reduced to this.

[wgogh]

If he was a replicant, shouldnt he be dead by now? Hope theres a good explanation.

[GaijinPunch]

If he was a replicant, shouldnt he be dead by now? Hope theres a good explanation.

Prototype with no 4-year life span. Zing!

[Obiwanshinobi]

Too much hype for my liking right now (my area is all plastered over with movie posters advertising the thing). I understand that they need to sell it, but their tactics are so ever automatic... No class. Like, what were those posters last month, live-action GitS or another Transformers movie? Expecting them to be the return of Nash Bridges next, or Braveheart, whatever. A constant exercise in assurance. I struggle to suspend my disbelief anybody really WANTS to MAKE those things anymore.

[GaijinPunch]

Too much hype for my liking right now (my area is all plastered over with movie posters advertising the thing). I understand that they need to sell it, but their tactics are so ever automatic... No class. Like, what were those posters last month, live-action GitS or another Transformers movie? Expecting them to be the return of Nash Bridges next, or Braveheart, whatever. A constant exercise in assurance. I struggle to suspend my disbelief anybody really WANTS to MAKE those things anymore.

You do realize there's a buliding-sized Atari logo in the fucking movie, right?