Senko No Ronde Announced for Xbox 360

[Nemo]

I can see it becoming a viable 2D machine in Japan, but not here. Let's face it folks, shmups are not the only 2D games that are not mainstream over here-2D gaming in general is not mainstream anymore. And if I'm gonna fork over the dough for some expensive import, next-gen hardware and software, right now the J-PSTwo would still be my best option.

What's "mainstream" is only important to Sony, that's the point. MS and Nintendo don't care about nonsense like that. I can't count all the times a publisher has wanted to bring over a 2D game only to be rejected by Sony.

Uhh yeah, how many shmups (not those in collections) are available for the US XBOX? None-oh wait, I forgot, Xyanide is coming out. That'll be one.

And how many shooters are there for the Xbox period, Shikigami no Shiro I and II (which Xs games was going to release) and Psyvariar.

[GaijinPunch]

Wireless X360 Arcade Stick announced
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/doc ... /ggl09.htm

Should be good for playing Senko No Ronde...

As long as it's easy to mod.

[jp]

Uhh yeah, how many shmups (not those in collections) are available for the US XBOX? None-oh wait, I forgot, Xyanide is coming out. That'll be one.

And how many shooters are there for the Xbox period, Shikigami no Shiro I and II (which Xs games was going to release) and Psyvariar.

Damn, you beat me to it.

[dave4shmups]

And how many shooters are there for the Xbox period, Shikigami no Shiro I and II (which Xs games was going to release) and Psyvariar.

Damn, you beat me to it.

That's still not even half as many shmups as are available to for the American PSTwo (or even PS1), much less the Japanese PSTwo.

@Nemo, ALL companies care about what's mainstream, because what's mainstream is what sells the most. "Only Sony" cares about that?? I hardly think so. Think about it, why does the XBOX have more FPS's, which are the most popular type of shooters in this country now, then the PS2?

And if SCEA are really the anti-2D monsters so many on this forum make them out to be, why, in the life-span of the PS2 have they allowed all of the following shmups to get domestic releases?:

Gradius III & IV
R-Type Final
Gradius V
Silpheed 2
Mobile Light Force 2
Castle Shikigami 2

I rest my case.

If a bunch of 2D gaming goodness comes rolling on into the American 360; then I might just get one, but for now, I still have serious doubts.

[dave4shmups]

Wireless X360 Arcade Stick announced
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/doc ... /ggl09.htm

Should be good for playing Senko No Ronde...

As long as it's easy to mod.

Well, given that the PS2 was harder to mod then the PS1, the 360 will most likely be harder to mod then the XBOX-Microsoft has to know some of what's been going on with people using the XBOX for all sorts of emulation, so the 360'll probably be pretty tough to crack, and that's if anyone's even able to do it at all without causing major damage to the system (ala PSTwo.).

[Damocles]

Wireless X360 Arcade Stick announced
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/doc ... /ggl09.htm

Should be good for playing Senko No Ronde...

As long as it's easy to mod.

Well, given that the PS2 was harder to mod then the PS1, the 360 will most likely be harder to mod then the XBOX-Microsoft has to know some of what's been going on with people using the XBOX for all sorts of emulation, so the 360'll probably be pretty tough to crack, and that's if anyone's even able to do it at all without causing major damage to the system (ala PSTwo.).

The stick.

[dave4shmups]

As long as it's easy to mod.

Well, given that the PS2 was harder to mod then the PS1, the 360 will most likely be harder to mod then the XBOX-Microsoft has to know some of what's been going on with people using the XBOX for all sorts of emulation, so the 360'll probably be pretty tough to crack, and that's if anyone's even able to do it at all without causing major damage to the system (ala PSTwo.).

The stick.

What the heck's the stick?

[Nemo]

@Nemo, ALL companies care about what's mainstream, because what's mainstream is what sells the most. "Only Sony" cares about that?? I hardly think so. Think about it, why does the XBOX have more FPS's, which are the most popular type of shooters in this country now, then the PS2? If all this 2D gaming goodness comes rolling on in on the American 360; then I might just get one, but for now, I still have serious doubts.

You can't look at one aspect and say that negates everything else. So what if it has a lot of FPS? MS has never stated or acted like they will only allow FPS to be released. It also has Metal Slug 3, 4, and 5, and some 2D fighters. The point is, MS has an all-inclusive attitude, they actually like it when people want to release diverse games on their system (could that create a bigger userbase, what a weird concept?), they don't turn them away. The only reason it doesn't have more 2D games now has to do with the fact that there aren't many made for the system period, obviously MS is trying to change that this time around with the 360, so I like the future prospects.

[BulletMagnet]

What the heck's the stick?

When GP was talking about modding in his previous post, he was referring to Thunder Force's post about the X360 arcade stick, not the X360 itself.

[dave4shmups]

@Nemo, ALL companies care about what's mainstream, because what's mainstream is what sells the most. "Only Sony" cares about that?? I hardly think so. Think about it, why does the XBOX have more FPS's, which are the most popular type of shooters in this country now, then the PS2? If all this 2D gaming goodness comes rolling on in on the American 360; then I might just get one, but for now, I still have serious doubts.

You can't look at one aspect and say that negates everything else. So what if it has a lot of FPS? MS has never stated or acted like they will only allow FPS to be released. It also has Metal Slug 3, 4, and 5, and some 2D fighters. The point is, MS has an all-inclusive attitude, they actually like it when people want to release diverse games on their system (could that create a bigger userbase, what a weird concept?), they don't turn them away. The only reason it doesn't have more 2D games now has to do with the fact that there aren't many made for the system period, obviously MS is trying to change that this time around with the 360, so I like the future prospects.

Fair enough, but I with all the PS1 games you can play on it, I'd say the PSTwo has a pretty diverse library of games. I certainly hope MS is trying to change the number of 2D games available for it's hardware this time around, I might just buy a 360 then!

[GaijinPunch]

Interesting point dave (even though I was commenting on the stick) but ask yourself this. How many systems gone w/o being cracked at all?

[jp]

Damn, you beat me to it.

That's still not even half as many shmups as are available to for the American PSTwo (or even PS1), much less the Japanese PSTwo.

@Nemo, ALL companies care about what's mainstream, because what's mainstream is what sells the most. "Only Sony" cares about that?? I hardly think so. Think about it, why does the XBOX have more FPS's, which are the most popular type of shooters in this country now, then the PS2?

And if SCEA are really the anti-2D monsters so many on this forum make them out to be, why, in the life-span of the PS2 have they allowed all of the following shmups to get domestic releases?:

Gradius III & IV
R-Type Final
Gradius V
Silpheed 2
Mobile Light Force 2
Castle Shikigami 2

I rest my case.

If a bunch of 2D gaming goodness comes rolling on into the American 360; then I might just get one, but for now, I still have serious doubts.

Dave, you would have a point if it wasn't for two small statistics:
Number of Japanese developers making Xbox games.
Number of American developers making shmups.


I rest MY case.

[The n00b]

Third just let the damn dreamcast die already. You're starting to turn into the kid begging for Playstation ports. Just get a job and buy another system already, it won't kill you.

[Nemo]

@Nemo, ALL companies care about what's mainstream, because what's mainstream is what sells the most. "Only Sony" cares about that?? I hardly think so. Think about it, why does the XBOX have more FPS's, which are the most popular type of shooters in this country now, then the PS2? If all this 2D gaming goodness comes rolling on in on the American 360; then I might just get one, but for now, I still have serious doubts.

You can't look at one aspect and say that negates everything else. So what if it has a lot of FPS? MS has never stated or acted like they will only allow FPS to be released. It also has Metal Slug 3, 4, and 5, and some 2D fighters. The point is, MS has an all-inclusive attitude, they actually like it when people want to release diverse games on their system (could that create a bigger userbase, what a weird concept?), they don't turn them away. The only reason it doesn't have more 2D games now has to do with the fact that there aren't many made for the system period, obviously MS is trying to change that this time around with the 360, so I like the future prospects.

Fair enough, but I with all the PS1 games you can play on it, I'd say the PSTwo has a pretty diverse library of games. I certainly hope MS is trying to change the number of 2D games available for it's hardware this time around, I might just buy a 360 then!

It seems to me you're trying to factor way too many things that aren't relavent; we're talking about company psyches here, not so much their hardware. I'm not trying to throw you a sales pitch to buy a 360, my only point is to reveal the reality of the situation.

[captain ahar]

Third just let the damn dreamcast die already. You're starting to turn into the kid begging for Playstation ports. Just get a job and buy another system already, it won't kill you.

when making comments like this, either don't make them, or say who you are talking about so no one gets confused by this bullshit post. thanks. ^_^

[gameoverDude]

Third just let the damn dreamcast die already. You're starting to turn into the kid begging for Playstation ports. Just get a job and buy another system already, it won't kill you.

The NAOMI & Dreamcast are leagues above the PlayStation 1. Your comparison here falls flatter than 10 day-old Pepsi.

[dave4shmups]

Third just let the damn dreamcast die already. You're starting to turn into the kid begging for Playstation ports. Just get a job and buy another system already, it won't kill you.

The NAOMI & Dreamcast are leagues above the PlayStation 1. Your comparison here falls flatter than 10 day-old Pepsi.

This whole comparison is pointless. Of course the DC is leagues ahead of the PS1; it was released 4 years later.

At any rate, rumors and stories continue to abound about the 360's backward's compatibility-the latest news is that it will be, at launch, backwards compatible with 90% of XBOX titles, and that you'll be able to download patches for the other 10% on XBOX Live.

I certainly hope this is true, and that plenty of 2D shmups get domestic 360 releases. I already have 3 consoles for import shmupping: my DC, my PC Engine (for which I will be purchasing a Super CD-Rom2 unit), and my modded Saturn. I really don't want to shell out more money for another console for import shmups at this point.

Check out this latest video of After Burner 360 from IGN:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/749/ ... ids_1.html

Utterly awesome, IMO!

[Recap]

After Burner on the 360 as an arcade game? IGN at its best.

[dave4shmups]

After Burner on the 360 as an arcade game? IGN at its best.

It's listed to as a 360 release next year; it's not just an arcade game.

[Last Guardian]

What's "mainstream" is only important to Sony, that's the point. MS and Nintendo don't care about nonsense like that.

That's the funniest thing I've read today, thank you.

[Recap]

After Burner on the 360 as an arcade game? IGN at its best.

It's listed to as a 360 release next year; it's not just an arcade game.

But nope. Improve your sources.

[Thunder Force]

Wireless X360 Arcade Stick announced
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/doc ... /ggl09.htm

Should be good for playing Senko No Ronde...

Correction - looks like the final model is not wireless...

[japtor]

At any rate, rumors and stories continue to abound about the 360's backward's compatibility-the latest news is that it will be, at launch, backwards compatible with 90% of XBOX titles, and that you'll be able to download patches for the other 10% on XBOX Live.

I certainly hope this is true, and that plenty of 2D shmups get domestic 360 releases. I already have 3 consoles for import shmupping: my DC, my PC Engine (for which I will be purchasing a Super CD-Rom2 unit), and my modded Saturn. I really don't want to shell out more money for another console for import shmups at this point.

Check out this latest video of After Burner 360 from IGN:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/749/ ... ids_1.html

Utterly awesome, IMO!

actually the latest (albeit with a debug kit) is that it works with halo, halo 2, and fable. im sure itll change at launch, but hey, that does fit with their 'top selling xbox games' compatibility saying (#1, 2/3, and 10th best sellers iirc).

and if you havent figured it out yet by the other posts, after burner has nothing to do with the 360. ign just doesnt have an arcade section and shoehorned it into the 360 one, partially because early speculation was 360 = lindbergh. it isnt. it all started with the first house of the dead 4 news a while back before lindbergh was revealed, everything else just followed.

[system11]

Wireless X360 Arcade Stick announced
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/doc ... /ggl09.htm

Should be good for playing Senko No Ronde...

Correction - looks like the final model is not wireless...

Excellent news. I hate having bullshit wireless forced upon me.

[AAA]

Firstly, I think it is very funny that Third Strike has sales estimates, and then labels his estimates as "clear" evidence of the mismanagement. Third Strike's infallible estimates are no match for the econimists who work for the developers and publishers. You should really apply your knowledge with G.Rev and get on board over there, clearly they need a math genius such as yourself.

Who gives a shit what console it comes out for? I don't care that it comes out for the 360. If M$ wants to continue to support these developers, why is that a bad thing? Sony wouldn't even let SNK put out a game that wasn't packaged as a compilation with a specific price point, yada yada yada. M$, as much as I hate them from a OS standpoint, have done a commendable job of trying to get Japan involved. And, if some of the smaller developers and shooter guys can get work from them, get a widespread release, I think it's Great. Pom Pom Games is working this with M$ right now, getting their stuff onto Live for demo and sale, and I don't think any other console maker would ever let Pom Pom Games be a launch developer.

If enough developers we care about join M$, you're going to own a 360 anyway, so why not have a selection of quality to choose from?

you would be surprised at how some game publishers forecast their sales and platform decisions, don't expect too much professional rationale from a company with the limited resources of G-rev

[Randorama]

The off-topicness of this thread is so blatant that i should make a news about this.


But let's not forget: news doesn't start from thread!