Raiden 4 Overkill and Caladrius getting PS3 release

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I really hope Blaze doesn't get canned. I doubt MOSS can take a hit like that; not seeing any sales after investing so much into the port.
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Phellan Wolf wrote:I hope for God's sake they launch the game on time.
"On time" for what? The release date is kind of a moving target ... though still within the initially set time frame (Spring 2014) :)

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Any price info on both vers? thx
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Why does everyone keep thinking Blaze is going to get canned... It's all just random speculation. I think a more reasonable worry is that the porting might not be going as well as expected and we may end up with something slow down ridden. I'm sure it will be pushed out the door either way though.
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ArmoredCore wrote:Any price info on both vers? thx
JPN PSN 2970¥ http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/11/ra ... -april-24/
US PSN $19.99 http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/05/ra ... -april-29/
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Looks like UFO Interactive has confirmed the U.S. PSN release of Raiden IV Overkill is still happening on 4/29.

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Well, that's something hopeful for good news, I don't see why the JP release has to be delayed (again) though. There's no excuse if the US release is still set for 4/29.
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One possible explanation is that somewhere along the line the English version became the primary product - if so the delay of the Japanese release is necessary to allow for the Japanese product localization. Another explanation is that "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing". We'll see what happens next Tuesday ...
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I only know this much: I sure can't wait for when Caladrius Blaze gets released for the PS3! It really sucked, when the Xbox 360 game was region locked, and I won't be able to get a Japanese Xbox 360 for some time, so I'm definitely looking forward to the day it releases sometime this year! Am I just dying to play Caladrius Blaze, the limited edition one, lol. :)

I sure hope nothing bad happens to Caladrius Blaze, as what seems to be suggested could probably happen. That would really suck so bad. I haven't heard that something like that could happen to Caladrius Blaze, concerning Moss. It just can't. :(
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On the plus side by never playing the 360 version you never had to experience the hell that was stage 6. AC tones it down a little and I'm sure Blaze will follow its lead. I just hope to god Blaze doesn't use the shitty AC scoring system. That would be even worse than questionable porting imo.
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PurpleTheGuy wrote:I only know this much: I sure can't wait for when Caladrius Blaze gets released for the PS3! It really sucked, when the Xbox 360 game was region locked, and I won't be able to get a Japanese Xbox 360 for some time, so I'm definitely looking forward to the day it releases sometime this year! Am I just dying to play Caladrius Blaze, the limited edition one, lol. :)

I sure hope nothing bad happens to Caladrius Blaze, as what seems to be suggested could probably happen. That would really suck so bad. I haven't heard that something like that could happen to Caladrius Blaze, concerning Moss. It just can't. :(
Just to confirm, you were talking about Caladrius Blaze, and not Raiden 4 Overkill - right?

Anyway, I'll be all over both of these. Funny how the PS3 is suddenly the shmupsole now.
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Stevas wrote:
PurpleTheGuy wrote:Funny how the PS3 is suddenly the shmupsole now.
Yeah, and I would not at all mind double dipping on R-Type Dimensions if the Japanese PS3 version gets localized for NA.
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Stevas wrote:Just to confirm, you were talking about Caladrius Blaze, and not Raiden 4 Overkill - right?

Anyway, I'll be all over both of these. Funny how the PS3 is suddenly the shmupsole now.
Yeah, I was talking about Caladrius Blaze, that one I really want to get for the PS3, since the Xbox 360 one was region locked, so the PS3 region-free release is big news to me. Raiden IV I plan to get for the Xbox 360, so I'm, at the moment, not paying much attention to Raiden IV Overkill, for now, especially since that will be just downloadable only.

Yeah, I'm one of those that likes to get the physical copy of the games whenever possible. Yeah, it would be nice to see more shmups appear for the PS3, even though we don't know how much longer that will be, since PS4 came out.
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parallaxscroll2 wrote:I would not at all mind double dipping on R-Type Dimensions if the Japanese PS3 version gets localized for NA.
Based on this PS3 R-Type Dimensions already has an English language mode - which isn't that surprising considering that both the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions were ported/enhanced by a western (Swedish) developer. Southend Interactive is the listed developer - Tozai is the publisher. Southend Interactive closed shop in Summer 2013 (apparently the staff joined Ubisoft's Massive Entertainment). It's not clear why Tozai waited until late November 2013 to put R-Type Dimensions on the Japanese PSN (unless it was finished by moonlighting former Southend Interactive developers). So it looks like there is no localization effort necessary to put it at least on the US PSN store. But Tozai must have decided that it's not worth their while. I recall a lot of comments that it was a 800MSP title being sold for 1200MSP - which couldn't have helped the sales numbers on the US Xbox Marketplace.
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PurpleTheGuy wrote:Yeah, I was talking about Caladrius Blaze, that one I really want to get for the PS3, since the Xbox 360 one was region locked, so the PS3 region-free release is big news to me. Raiden IV I plan to get for the Xbox 360, so I'm, at the moment, not paying much attention to Raiden IV Overkill, for now, especially since that will be just downloadable only.
Yeah, I'm one of those that likes to get the physical copy of the games whenever possible.
Purchasing a new release of Raiden IV Overkill is more likely to put money in Moss's pocket to keep them on track with their Caladrius effort - it's unlikely that purchasing a 5+ year old physical copy is going to have any effect in that direction (last summer I came across some in the bargain bin for $4.97). I also prefer physical copies but at some point in time they'll realize the added potential for milking single/local-player games by releasing the downloadable version first and a limited (complete physical) edition sometime later (provided print-run minimums are reasonably low). But even then the latter won't materialize unless the sales of the former justify it. Somehow the movie industry makes it work - how many editions of "Army of Darkness" are out there?
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I don't think that right now Ps3 is getting al shmup love, I think it is more due to a business decision made by Moss to get some quick money and to widen a large audience by releasing it oversays.
Offtopic aside looks like european PSN store is getting Raiden IV a week after US release. So good news for us so that we won't need to change acounts to download the game.
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Phellan Wolf wrote:I don't think that right now Ps3 is getting al shmup love, I think it is more due to a business decision made by Moss to get some quick money and to widen a large audience by releasing it oversays.
Offtopic aside looks like european PSN store is getting Raiden IV for a week before US release. So good news for us so that we won't need to change acounts to download the game.
Does this mean I can get the game now instead of waiting until next week?
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Emo Fox Jet Pilot wrote:
Phellan Wolf wrote:I don't think that right now Ps3 is getting al shmup love, I think it is more due to a business decision made by Moss to get some quick money and to widen a large audience by releasing it oversays.
Offtopic aside looks like european PSN store is getting Raiden IV for a week before US release. So good news for us so that we won't need to change acounts to download the game.
Does this mean I can get the game now instead of waiting until next week?
Whops I dunno what the fuck I was thinking off. Gonna edit my post is a week after just like now the japanese release. Sorry for the mistake
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Im still hoping they made an error for JPN release date & that i'll see it in the store tomorrow lol...
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Phellan Wolf wrote: Offtopic aside looks like european PSN store is getting Raiden IV a week after US release. So good news for us so that we won't need to change acounts to download the game.
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Blinge wrote:
Phellan Wolf wrote: Offtopic aside looks like european PSN store is getting Raiden IV a week after US release. So good news for us so that we won't need to change acounts to download the game.
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Well, at least EU gamers won't get shafted with Raiden 4, now if the'll do the same for RFA, lol. But yeah, we all know how that discussion went, lol.
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See, you SAY we won't get shafted, but I'm not seeing anything on the price on the EU PSN?
If it's £19.99 they can get the fuck, I'll be grabbing my copy from the US thanks.
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HydrogLox wrote:Purchasing a new release of Raiden IV Overkill is more likely to put money in Moss's pocket to keep them on track with their Caladrius effort - it's unlikely that purchasing a 5+ year old physical copy is going to have any effect in that direction (last summer I came across some in the bargain bin for $4.97). I also prefer physical copies but at some point in time they'll realize the added potential for milking single/local-player games by releasing the downloadable version first and a limited (complete physical) edition sometime later (provided print-run minimums are reasonably low). But even then the latter won't materialize unless the sales of the former justify it. Somehow the movie industry makes it work - how many editions of "Army of Darkness" are out there?
Yeah, I get that, and it is a good point (Dude, that's an incredible deal! What store was it, anyway, if you remember?) but hmm, I'll consider it, when I do get Raiden IV for the Xbox 360, and play it for some time to where I get to where I want to be with that particular game. However, first, I'll get Raiden Fighters Aces, then Raiden IV, and then we'll see.

That, and the other thing is that there are other games I plan on getting first that I've already planned out according to my budget in the very near future. I've already put aside some of my savings for Caladrius Blaze when it comes out, also.

Hmm, I'm not too familiar about the last question. Maybe it's got something to do with being a cult hit? I mean, that's just my guess in the dark, I don't know. :?
ACSeraph wrote:On the plus side by never playing the 360 version you never had to experience the hell that was stage 6. AC tones it down a little and I'm sure Blaze will follow its lead. I just hope to god Blaze doesn't use the shitty AC scoring system. That would be even worse than questionable porting imo.
Dang, that sounds pretty intense. Maybe I might experience that on the PS3 version. I should go see a YouTube video of that particular stage, and observe a little more closely.
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If Blaze follows a similar release trajectory as Raiden IV, the game will include the original 360 version, the AC version, and a new Blaze version for the PS3.
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PurpleTheGuy wrote:What store was it, anyway, if you remember?
Future Shop (franchise) - those copies are long gone and I think they were making room for the empty Xbox One and PS4 boxes at the time.
Here at EBGames (GameStop) $32.95 is the asking price for a new copy (if you can find one) or $24.95 used (plenty of those kicking around).
PurpleTheGuy wrote:first, I'll get Raiden Fighters Aces, then Raiden IV
The question is - if you already have an Xbox 360 why don't you have RFA already?. :wink:
Also keep in mind that while both are Seibu Kaihatsu games and both have "Raiden" in their title many Raiden purists do not consider the "Raiden Fighters" series part of the Raiden franchise. Gulti ended up porting the RFA games to Xbox 360 - not Moss. Gulti has PS3 experience (Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! Meikai Katsugeki Wide-Han) but there is no sign that they ever considered an RFA PS3 port.
PurpleTheGuy wrote:Maybe it's got something to do with being a cult hit? I mean, that's just my guess in the dark, I don't know. :?
Well, STGs/shmups are a niche genre - you may as well look at it as a "cult genre". So as such it isn't that strange to purchase the same game for multiple platforms (and multiple platform generations - developing versions for alternate platforms costs money) - some view releasing nominally different versions of the same game as "milking" but it could also be seen as a cheap way to give the community a way to support the favored suppliers of their habit.


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Check this link out! UFO will be giving away free Raiden IV Overkill codes if they can reach 2,200 followers on Twitter by tomorrow. They need 118 more to go. If you have a Twitter go and follow them!
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Emo Fox Jet Pilot wrote:Check this link out! UFO will be giving away free Raiden IV Overkill codes if they can reach 2,200 followers on Twitter by tomorrow. They need 118 more to go. If you have a Twitter go and follow them!
https://twitter.com/ufo_interactive/sta ... 7721021440
They're doing something similar on their Facebook page.
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