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One of my new favorites is Johnnie Walker Black Label scotch. I tried it once for a change, and found it to be some good stuff especially when mixed with just a splash of cola.

Some other favorites: Jagermeister, various red wines, Tom Collins, Midori, Bailey's (good in coffee), Frangelico, Sambuca, White & Black Russians.

On New Year's, a friend of mine bought some Grey Goose and I got some Jager ($30 for a 750 ml bottle). Grey Goose makes for a great vodka & tonic. I also tried mixing some GG with Jager, and later found out on the Web that Jager + Vodka is called a "Lights Out". :lol:
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gameoverDude wrote:One of my new favorites is Johnnie Walker Black Label scotch. I tried it once for a change, and found it to be some good stuff especially when mixed with just a splash of cola.
I bought a bottle of Johnnie Walker Green not too long ago. It's a bit better than Black but I don't think the increase in price is worth it.
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Acid King wrote:What do you drink? What are you drinking? Favorites? Stuff you absolutely hate?

I just dropped $150 on a case of DogFishHead 120 minute IPA. It's cooling in the fridge as we speak.
Wow, nice. I actually don't like hoppy beers like DogFishHead, but I do enjoy the 120 minute. I'm an uber lightweight, so one of those just knocks me out.

Day to day beer I like darks like Guiness. I'm just starting to come around to beers, I am more of a red wine drinker. My first name is Pasquale, red wine just feels like the right thing to drink. :P
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picked up a 12-pack of Orval last night for $60...ouch. It'll last me a while though.
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Acid King wrote:
gameoverDude wrote:One of my new favorites is Johnnie Walker Black Label scotch. I tried it once for a change, and found it to be some good stuff especially when mixed with just a splash of cola.
I bought a bottle of Johnnie Walker Green not too long ago. It's a bit better than Black but I don't think the increase in price is worth it.
Today I went out and got myself a bottle of the JW Black. It was $35 for 750 ml. I did see the Green sitting beside it, but decided to pass on that. I'm content with JW Black so I think I'll stick with it.
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I tried that dogfishhead stuff when i was in new jersey. It was pretty good stuff, the one I tried was 90 minute though. I was there for a funeral so I drank like the Aero Fighters Dolphin. It was fun sorta.

Been drinkin Pyramid Apricot and Remy VSOP since I got back.
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ktownhero wrote:
Wow, nice. I actually don't like hoppy beers like DogFishHead, but I do enjoy the 120 minute. I'm an uber lightweight, so one of those just knocks me out.
Yeah, it's pretty rough. If I drink one right after work before I eat, I just want to go to sleep. It doesn't really taste like an IPA though. It's much sweeter than all the hops would suggest. From the way it smelled and the fact that it's something like 120 IBU, I was expecting to be punched in the face with bitterness. I'm going to age the last 10 I have in the case and see if the sweetness mellows out a bit. I'm a big fan of hoppy beer, hence my distaste for brown ales. Way too much malt for me.

I had a few pints of Guinness when I ate earlier. The Weyerbacher is running out so I'm going to have to get another case soon.
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So I just checked out the Arrogant Bastard and found out that the local grocery stores here stock it, I thought it was a regional thing. What type should I pick up a case of next time I go shopping?
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I like the double bastard, the barly whine ale, ruination IPA and their imperial stout if you can get it.

Really, I've enjoyed all of their beers but recall not being too plussed by their standard IPA and standard stout. But even they were good.
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Also, the Ruination IPA has possibly the greatest bottle known to beer.
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By the way, who likes cocktails? I've been branded an old skooler with a vengeance, as I keep ordering Manhattans, Negronis and Martinis. Not too keen on more modern inventions, there's this weird tendency to create light mixes that really leaves me unsatisfied :?
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Randorama wrote:By the way, who likes cocktails? I've been branded an old skooler with a vengeance, as I keep ordering Manhattans, Negronis and Martinis. Not too keen on more modern inventions, there's this weird tendency to create light mixes that really leaves me unsatisfied :?
I'm pretty old-school as far as mixed drinks go as well. My favorite is the martini, and by "martini" I refer to a drink made with gin and vermouth only. Anything else isn't, strictly speaking, a martini. For a garnish you are supposed to use lemon twist, but I prefer an olive. If you use olives, it is bad form to have an even number. One or three is fine, but not two.
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professor ganson wrote:
I'm pretty old-school as far as mixed drinks go as well. My favorite is the martini, and by "martini" I refer to a drink made with gin and vermouth only. Anything else isn't, strictly speaking, a martini. For a garnish you are supposed to use lemon twist, but I prefer an olive. If you use olives, it is bad form to have an even number. One or three is fine, but not two.
Ah, thanks, I always get 3 olives so I'm safe. I admit that I find difficult to drink a cocktail without some Martini in, except of course for Manhattan. For unknown reasons, though, more than one Manhattan will usually knock me off, I really can't stand this specific cocktail.

Weird fact of the day: here in Sydney the latest trend is cocktails with a base of Frangelico, an hazelnut liquor. Also, I found a place selling Bianco Sarti (madness!), which is basically a white Martini with twice (40%/80) the grades.
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Randorama wrote:Manhattans
Good choice though most of the time I'm not dressed with nearly enough zezz to drink one of those without looking like a total prick.
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Randorama wrote:Manhattans
Good choice though most of the time I'm not dressed with nearly enough zezz to drink one of those without looking like a total prick.
Well, not that I dress up like a flawless crooner all the time, but there's a certain added value if one takes a Manhattan in a classy settings. In general, though, the combo elegant dressing+cocktail allows for more display of drunkness in public settings than the usual. If you get less old school stuff, you can afford to go casual though, everyone needs to drink a White Russian in summery outfits, Lebowski-style!
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A list of the 25 Best Beers In America was linked to on Digg today. Nice to know some good things come out of Cleveland.
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Davey wrote:A list of the 25 Best Beers In America was linked to on Digg today. Nice to know some good things come out of Cleveland.
It's good to see a list of top 25 beers that isn't made up of shit that is impossible to find.

This one is dedicated to Arrogant Bastard.
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Figured I'd post a few pictures of my recent trip to the Dogfish Head brewery and brewpub.

Cases of 60 Minute IPA in the warehouse. The cases they sold at the end of the tour were bottled the day before. The fresh 60 Minute IPA I had at the end of the tour was fucking orgasmic.

The Pub The first day they were light on the beer selection but we had to go because I had to try a "Randallized" pint.

Randall. Basically, Randall is a hop filter. They take a half pound of whole leaf hops, stuff them inside of Randall there and run the keg line of their 90 Minute IPA through it. The alcohol in the beer picks up oils from the hops and the resulting beer is pretty fucking good. Love me some hops.

Drinking Yes, both beers are mine.

After the tour they gave out free samples, the fresh 60 Minute IPA being the highlight. I also picked up a 4 packs of Golden Era imperial pilsner and Punkin ale, a 750 ml bottle of Chateau Jiahu and I got a growler of 90 Minute IPA at the pub. The Golden Era is really good and one of the only pilsners I've liked, but it's a limited release and is only available in august. The Punkin ale is a brown ale with pumpkin, cinnamon and nutmeg. It's good but not something I'd drink regularly. The Chateau Jiahu is supposed to be based on a 9000 year old recipe based on chemical tests from pottery found in China. Kinda fruity, no head at all, but pretty interesting regardless. I don't think I'd splurge the 100 or so on a case, but the bottle was definitely worth it.
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I forgot about this thread. It's kind of funny reading this since I started drinking microbrews this summer. I hated Arrogant Bastard when I tried it like 5 years ago, now I quite enjoy it.
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That's like arguing over who would win in a race between a Kia Sephia and a Hyundai Accent.
The best part is that they probably argue about this, too.
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This one is dedicated to Arrogant Bastard.
Brilliant! Hope I can find some of that over here. :lol:
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Quick notes:

In Australia, John Squire's beers and some other stuff (Coopers, some Cascade and Carlton) are quite good, even if light in gradation.

Wines do not have insane peaks of quality but the average is shamelessly high and cheap, impressive! Perfect with kangaroo and chokoes.

I'd add that the holy grail of beer is Westvleteren. Why? I will leave you to find out... :wink:
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Rando wrote;
I'd add that the holy grail of beer is Westvleteren. Why? I will leave you to find out...
Westvleteren - a Trappist Bier :idea: Strange that I never came across it in all my many trips to Belgium?!

I shall track it down.


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EDIT:- Oh its the one only sold at the Abbey to individual customers :idea:
I did watch a documentary in the bier museum in the Grand'Place (Brussels) in which it was featured.
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DEL wrote:
Westvleteren - a Trappist Bier :idea: Strange that I never came across it in all my many trips to Belgium?!

I shall track it down.
American beer nerds soil themselves over that shit though it's nigh on fucking impossible to find in the states. I'm not a fan of belgian style ales, atleast the ones I've tried.

I got a bunch of good stuff since I last posted in this thread. Southern Tier Unearthly Imperial IPA (11% abv + 22oz. bottles = fuck your day up), Three Floyd's Dreadnaught Imperial IPA, Oaked Arrogant Bastard (AB brewed with oak chips) and most recently Dogfish Head World Wide Stout, which is the world's strongest dark beer at 18% abv.

Figured I'd post this since it pertains to beer and also what I mentioned in the recent thread about biofuels. It was written by the owner of Weyerbacher Brewing, which is about a 20 minute drive from me.
A Treatise and an Appeal or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Craft Brew, At Any Price

OK, here it is, your inside the industry explanation of the ridiculous price increases in Craft Brew that you are going to see very soon. I’ll explain what’s happened to the price of Malt and Hops and why, what can be done about it, and why you are going to see prices jump likely between 15 and 25% on the retail end for Craft brews in a matter of weeks. I’ll then finish with an appeal to all craft brew fans for continued support. We need it now more than ever to get through this rough period and not lose any more quality craft breweries, which could likely happen to some you might not expect.

I own and operate Weyerbacher Brewing Co. (with partners) in Easton, PA, so you’re getting info straight from the brewery. In late September I was told by another brewery that malt was going up about 40% and hops 30 to 40%. I started calling suppliers and they confirmed this was true, and also that they have no prices locked in yet. Additionally, I was informed that many farmers are not honoring their contracts to the fullest extent (don’t blame the farmers please) due to the crazy price situation that’s evolving in crop farming, with corn being twice the price it was last year.

What does corn have to do with it? Our supplier tells us that with Uncle Sam’s push and financial support for ethanol the price of corn has doubled and many farmers grew corn instead of barley this year. In the UK, where the EU has also required ethanol production, rape seed is the crop of choice and again, a lot more profitable than growing barley and wheat. Couple this with bad weather and growing conditions this year and in Europe and you have a crisis in barley supply. We were told this was coming in early summer, but we assumed our malt company might have meant a 10 to 15% increase in price, not this. When we finally got nailed down pricing last week, one malt price was up 45% and the other up 56%. Plus, we were told to be happy that we’re able to get the supply (with growth) that we’ve asked for. Some brewers will not be so lucky.

Now for Hops. A glut of hops on the market in the mid-90s, caused a 10 year decline in hops acreage and hops farmers throughout the world. Each year more acreage dwindled and it didn’t matter as there was still an oversupply of hops. Beginning perhaps 2 to 4 years ago, the astounding success and strength of the craft brew industry put a big dent in the overage, but prices stayed essentially the same and farmers didn’t have incentive to plant more. Throw in the runaway success of Double IPAs (and bigger) and we’ve jumped up the demand again for those fragrant cones. Sooner or later something had to give. And its happened last month. Rather than going up 30 or 40% as expected, US and European hops have gone up 400%!! That’s not a typo, 400%. There is not enough to go around. Weyerbacher has our supply lined up, but some recipes may require a few substitutions in hops due to lack of supply of some varieties. In a recent Wall Street Journal article on this problem, Larry Bell of Kalamazoo brewing and Jim Koch of Sam Adams were also quoted as saying they would probably have to alter a few recipes....

So where does this bring us? These price increases for Malt and Hops alone amount to a minimum price increase from Weyerbacher to wholesaler of 12 to 14% and it gets worse on the beers that use a lot of hops. Many of our beers will increase about $2.50 per case. Our ingredient cost for Hops Infusion IPA has risen $3.94, so we will raise the price $4.00 per case. Its typical for a business to markup a certain fixed amount from cost, so typically this $4.00 would result in a higher markup to keep our margins this same, but you can see why we can’t do that. When you reach for that 4 pack of Double Simcoe IPA in the New Year, don’t be surprised if its $2.00 to $2.50 higher. Our ingredient cost on this hop bomb went up $8.14 per case. You can see where this is going. Many BIG beers not heavy on the hops will go up perhaps 3 or 4 dollars due to the malt increase.

It gets better. A price increase at the brewery of 10 to 15%, just to cover costs, no gouging whatsoever, will result in a price increase at retail of 20 to 25%.

So that’s it in a nutshell. The Associated Press and The Wall Street Journal have both written separate articles on this subject in the past 3 weeks.

While not officially speaking for the industry, I hope other breweries will join Weyerbacher in an appeal to beer geeks everywhere for their continued support of our industry. We need you now more than ever if we are to continue making great beer. When hops are short and the big 3 industrial brewers will pay anything (almost) to get their hands on them, we need you the consumer to come to a full understanding of what’s going on in our industry.

Many craft breweries just get by, with employees typically working 50 to 60 hour weeks, most of whom would not feel they are overpaid. Fuel goes up, glass goes up, cardboard goes up every year, and somehow we have to deal with it. We’ll be OK here, but some breweries may not. We simply ask for your understanding about why the prices have gone up. Thanks for your fantastic support in the past and your (hopefully) continued support in the future. Cheers!

Dan Weirback, President Weyerbacher Brewing Co., Inc Easton, PA
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Davey wrote:A list of the 25 Best Beers In America was linked to on Digg today. Nice to know some good things come out of Cleveland.
Good to see Smuttynose's big-bottle IPA got a shout out; it's a damn fine beer, but hard to get.

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i am a Malibu and coke man. i used to get called gay for drinking it but now that its cool and trendy to drink it (all themz hip hop stars copying me) i'm cool apparently :roll:

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The 2007-2008 Samuel Smiths Winter Welcome is finally in stores. :D
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Looking back at that Top 25 list, I can't believe Great Lakes Holy Moses was rated so high. I bought a bottle once and thought it was terrible, I couldn't even finish the thing. It was my first and only white beer, though, so maybe I just hate the style. In any case, there are much better Great Lakes beers to choose from (e.g., any of them).
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Jon wrote:The 2007-2008 Samuel Smiths Winter Welcome is finally in stores. :D
Thanks for the tip, kind sir. I'm all over this.

...Shit.

Or I would be, if I hadn't for the most part cut beer out of my drinkin' repertoire, as a weight-maintenance measure. Dammit, why must beer be so lovely and so fattening?! *shakes fists at the heavens* :x
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