Jap Xbox 360

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:21 pm

Well, I was wondering what all of you will do if we start seeing some good shooters on the 360. If Treasure's announced shooting game is really good, will any of you start importing 360s? (I will have the opposite problem--I am getting a Jap 360 to start with but I will end up missing out on some western releases.)

In the old days, playing import games was relatively easy. With newer consoles, things seem to be getting worse and worse. I doubt we'll ever see a 360 swap disc...

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:43 pm

its up to the developers whether you can play their game on a console out of that region, so far all the usa 360 titles that have been attempted, play perfect on a japanese 360. i think we'll be ok.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:26 am

aphexacid wrote:its up to the developers whether you can play their game on a console out of that region.

Is this right? Why did MS go this route, I wonder?

I would certainly prefer not having to import a 360. If the games are good, I'll import them and hope that someday I can find a relatively inexpensive way to play them.

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:37 am

The same policy was in effect for the original Xbox from what I've heard, and in fact there were some titles (most notable of these was Halo 2) that weren't region locked.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:56 am

OT: Where the fuck have you been?

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:18 am

aphexacid wrote:so far all the usa 360 titles that have been attempted, play perfect on a japanese 360

Where did you read that? That's some really good news if it's true.

GP: I've had to leave Japan for a while because of visa problems, but I am going back in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, I took time out to rethink some ideas about the direction of my site... On another note, the first thing I'll do when I land is look for an Espgaluda II machine. Fun times ahead!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:33 am

I'm going for a week again with the wife sometime early next year. January or February I would say. It will be nice to wear my stylish leather coats that haven't gotten any action in some 20 months now. Perhaps we can do that beer then.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:16 am

Sure thing. I'll be there all through January and February at the very least.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:08 am

icycalm wrote:
aphexacid wrote:so far all the usa 360 titles that have been attempted, play perfect on a japanese 360
Where did you read that? That's some really good news if it's true.

I haven't seen that piece of info reported anywhere either. Are we sure it's true?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:20 am

Considering the Xbox 360 isn't out in Japan until December the 10th, how the fuck does anyone know that?

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:22 am

I'll be getting the Japanese 360 myself but most likely not until after Christmas. If future Japanese titles are region locked, I wish to hedge some bets. I'm fiending for Senko no Ronde and don't expect this to be the last from G.Rev on that system.

The only USA 360 titles that interest me at the moment are Quake 4 and Ridge Racer 6. PGR looks good, but I'd take Battle Gear 4 over it.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:29 am

Quake 4 apparently runs with very low frame rates on the 360, so if you have a good PC you might be better of getting the PC version.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:24 pm

Totally off topic:

aphexacid's avatar really should come with an epilepsy warning!

Like it though!

dementia · Post by **dementia** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:24 pm

Totally off topic:

Are the Japan-only released Guilty Gear Isuka or Metal Wolf Chaos for Xbox (1) region coded?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:42 pm

Look up at my post about the Xbox 360 not coming out in Japan until December 10th. One can assume games aren't out there either.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:22 pm

Plenty of Treasure games have made their way over here to the US; so whatever shooter Treasure develops for the 360 may indeed end up also getting a US release. If Mircosoft is so 2D friendly, then they'd certainly be stupid for not letting a game developed by Treasure over here.

With all the modding that went on with the first XBOX, I seriously doubt that 360's from any region of the world will be region-free. And the thing will probably be harder to "crack" then Fort Knox; in terms of modding it. I'd love to see a simple boot disc, that doesn't even involve taking out any screws or parts off of trays, as well, but with the Freeloader for the Cube, I think we've seen the last of those type of boot discs.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:13 pm

And the thing will probably be harder to "crack" then Fort Knox;

Not with the word "Microsoft" on it.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:26 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
And the thing will probably be harder to "crack" then Fort Knox;
Not with the word "Microsoft" on it.

What do you mean by that? Even if Microsoft stuff is easy to modd, Microsoft will surely make it harder this time around, I would think.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:06 am

What do you mean by that? Even if Microsoft stuff is easy to modd, Microsoft will surely make it harder this time around, I would think.

I'm sure it will be harder, but really, it's only a matter of time. Nothing is impregnable... especially something by Microsoft.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:15 am

dave4shmups wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:
And the thing will probably be harder to "crack" then Fort Knox;
Not with the word "Microsoft" on it.
What do you mean by that? Even if Microsoft stuff is easy to modd, Microsoft will surely make it harder this time around, I would think.

Microsoft is hated by a lot of people.

My guess is that simply by virtue of the fact that it's from Microsoft, people will put extra effort into cracking it.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:36 am

benstylus wrote:My guess is that simply by virtue of the fact that it's from Microsoft, people will put extra effort into cracking it.

Very true. Although MS really seem to have put a lot of effort into protection this time. Time will tell...

Also, I found a link to the japanese Xbox 360 region-free games story here. Allegedly some games are region-free like with the Xbox 1.

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:28 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Considering the Xbox 360 isn't out in Japan until December the 10th, how the fuck does anyone know that?

Come on man, you've never heard of anyone getting their hands on a console or game before it comes out? the 360 was dismantled and examined almost a full 2 weeks before launch day here in the states.
a friend of mine has had a development kit for a month an a half now. it happens.

so far from what my friends tell me, and what i've seen, playing backups will be no sweat. it seems like no chip will be needed either. good thing too, becuase this thing is a beeotch to put together.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:35 am

I've not heard of people getting retail boxes weeks before... especially in Japan where the work ethic has traditionally kept items on store shelves, and not in the back of trucks before release. Your even said yoruself -- your friend i using a dev unit... not a retail box. Backups w/o a mod chip already? I've heard it all.

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:49 am

hmm. you've heard it all but i dont really think you're hearing me...

my friend and the guys that tested the u.s. games on a jap unit...totally seperate.

backups being loaded with a boot disc...not "already", they're saying from the way the unit is designed and it architecture, we should be able to flash the tsop, somewhat like the originals. things are still VERY infantile. thats all i'm saying.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:32 am

Just a follow-up to the mentioning of Quake IV 360, there's a MAJOR glitch in it with no workaround at this time wherein on certain difficulty levels, one of the doors about halfway through the game simply will not open and progressing further will be impossible.

In a perfect world XBox Live Marketplace would have a cheap firmware update you could download that would make your 360 region free for games and DVDs.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:34 am

aphexacid wrote:hmm. you've heard it all but i dont really think you're hearing me...

You're not exactly speaking coherently though, are you?

my friend and the guys that tested the u.s. games on a jap unit...totally seperate.

And where might that have gotten this Japanese unit?

aphexacid · Post by **aphexacid** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:34 am

what language do i need to speak in for you to understand man? i explained it pretty well the first time i think.

and what does it matter where the unit came from? its been reported on, its not like i pulled it out of my ass.

anyways, you killed this topic already. im out of here, have fun knowing it all.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:40 am

later.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:18 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Considering the Xbox 360 isn't out in Japan until December the 10th, how the fuck does anyone know that?

Whats the big mystery?

The only difference between a japanese 360 and a U.S. 360 is a bit of code locking out the other region(s).

Therefore, cracking the 360 before it comes out in japan is fairly simple. Take a U.S. 360....dismantle/break it down...and 95% of the battle is won.

Some disgruntled Microsoft employee will provide the missing piece of the puzzle.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:28 pm

Re Topic:

icycalm wrote:Well, I was wondering what all of you will do if we start seeing some good shooters on the 360. If Treasure's announced shooting game is really good, will any of you start importing 360s? (I will have the opposite problem--I am getting a Jap 360 to start with but I will end up missing out on some western releases.)

In the old days, playing import games was relatively easy. With newer consoles, things seem to be getting worse and worse. I doubt we'll ever see a 360 swap disc...

If Under Defeat comes out on 360 and if the Treasure game rocks I will get a Japanese 360. Seeing as every single system I own is Japanese, I think that should work out very well for me.

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