The PS Vita Thread - Remote Play for all PS4 Games

[Friendly]

Just a question, if you do this and Sony releases a new Vita FW it will be lost after installing the new FW, right? And it you don't install the new FW you can't go online with your Vita from then on.

The price of this eCFW is no longer updating the PSV in question (=no new PSV games, no PSN). I got a second PSV for this reason. Many old PSP games are awesome with a second analog stick, and they look great on the OLED screen. However, if you only have one PSV, denying yourself new games is not worth it, imo.

[replayme]

I've been a UK PS+ subscriber for nearly a year now, so for me, the only reason for why I would want to switch to a US account as my primary account would be because of the US PS1 Classics (which run at 60 hz). All the PSP games I can pick up for my PSP in UMD form - and they're generally cheaper too (and not region locked to the best of my knowledge).

Not having to deal with UMDs is very much worth paying for.

I don't know. If the game is cheaper, and comes with a tangible box and instruction manual, then I don't see as to why I would opt for a digital download.

I quite like the UMD system. The disk-drive cranking away gives my PSP that added "retro" authenticity.

Edit: I might switch my PSP over to a US account. But the Vita is just too much hassle, and I have too much "invested" in the UK account via PSN+.

[antares]

Thanks, just as I thought.

I know Jeff Minter's games aren't everyones cup of tea, but I'm eagerly awaiting his Vita game TXK and to compete on the online leaderboards so the CFW isn't an option for me.
It's just such shame that many great PSP games aren't available as download or only on the JP PSN :/

[null1024]

I've been a UK PS+ subscriber for nearly a year now, so for me, the only reason for why I would want to switch to a US account as my primary account would be because of the US PS1 Classics (which run at 60 hz). All the PSP games I can pick up for my PSP in UMD form - and they're generally cheaper too (and not region locked to the best of my knowledge).

Not having to deal with UMDs is very much worth paying for.

I don't know. If the game is cheaper, and comes with a tangible box and instruction manual, then I don't see as to why I would opt for a digital download.

I quite like the UMD system. The disk-drive cranking away gives my PSP that added "retro" authenticity.

Edit: I might switch my PSP over to a US account. But the Vita is just too much hassle, and I have too much "invested" in the UK account via PSN+.

Yeah, but UMD reading is piss slow. There's a reason PSP games started adding data install.
My PSP's UMD drive is dusty from complete disuse.

and thank you everyone for reminding me that I haven't finished Ys I yet on my PSP, I kind of stopped playing after getting lost in a cave for a few days, haha
Hell, Memories of Celceta is probably the one thing I really want a Vita for.

[Skykid]

Er, wtf?

There are a few issues I have with the PS Vita interface (the EU shop is nightmarish to navigate) but what in the living hell is going on with my backup?

I made a backup and moved it to my laptop, formatted the Vita and switched to US, and now I go to restore it says "There are no backup files."

But there are. They're on my laptop taking up a gig.

I've checked the path, even tried changing the path and moving the files, but it still doesn't recognise them. Am I about to lose 30 hours on Dragon's Crown now?

[replayme]

Er, wtf?

There are a few issues I have with the PS Vita interface (the EU shop is nightmarish to navigate) but what in the living hell is going on with my backup?

I made a backup and moved it to my laptop, formatted the Vita and switched to US, and now I go to restore it says "There are no backup files."

But there are. They're on my laptop taking up a gig.

I've checked the path, even tried changing the path and moving the files, but it still doesn't recognise them. Am I about to lose 30 hours on Dragon's Crown now?

I think the files might be "corrupted" due to the region differences.

Yeah... That 3DS eshop eh?!?! What a nightmare

[Skykid]

Can anyone help me with this?

[ZellSF]

If it's a full system backup it probably won't work due to region differences as mentioned, try restoring it to an EU account and then backing up only the games.

[replayme]

Can't help you.

But I can tell you about all the Persona games being in a sale on US PSN at 50% off. Persona 3 is meant to be pretty good.

[Skykid]

If it's a full system backup it probably won't work due to region differences as mentioned, try restoring it to an EU account and then backing up only the games.

Monkey nuts.

Ok, so restore back to EU, bring back the full backup, then backup only saves, then restore back to US, then transfer only the saves?

[replayme]

This is why I might opt for having two memory cards. One for UK, and one for US.

[replayme]

Had my memory in my Duo not corrupted, I would have done that

You were playing through in Japanese?

I don't know man... Twilight Princess was really weak. That felt like a real slog after only 10 minutes. So much so that I stopped playing it after 30 minutes.

I felt Twilight Princess was a weaker Zelda title, but I finished it. I don't think you can quite critique it after 30 minutes.

And regarding the gem collecting: I assume you played OoT (as your article on Eurogamer kind of affirms). You do realise that the Skultulas were also largely a waste of time, don't you?

They were a side objective I never cared for with any commitment. But on the rare occasion one popped up, I'd nab it and drop into the House on the way through the village simply to see who'd pop up.
In Gravity Rush the gem collecting is meant to be (and is) an enormous segment of the game, expecting you to go on repetitive time trials to light up a street or turn on a fountain. It's not comparable, because ignore all that nonsense and the game is about 50% shorter - and if you do ignore it, it makes absolutely no difference to proceedings whatsoever.

Tbh: I think the only reason why anyone is criticising GR to this extent is because it's not done by Nintendo. If it had the Nintendo badge on it, most of the people criticising it would have gone absolutely gaga over it.

No matter how many times you say this, it will never be true.

And yes: even OoT was tiring for nearly half of the game's length.

Takes a while to warm up to during the training process: getting to the future and big Link (around 2 hours game time.) Thereafter it held me for every second of every minute, with nothing spared.

Objectively: I still take issue with the fact that the developer disrespects the players time.

You completing TP was your (subjective) choice. Likewise, I found OoT to still be pretty mundane for the first few dungeons (nearly half the game's length).

You finding the collecting of the Skultulas as being "fun" is also your own subjective rationalization for why you think this side-mission is excusable.

Also, I can think of quite a few examples where a game has benefitted from it having the Nintendo logo. Platinum's Bayonetta 2 being the obvious example, if not for the fact that the market ignored the first title. Then we can argue Rayman's diminutive status in the marketplace, even though Rayman 2 was on the same quality level as Mario 64, and Rayman Legends is (arguably) better than NSMBWU. I could also talk about Sonic Racing Transformed, which is a better game than the last few Mario Karts.

[Skykid]

This is why I might opt for having two memory cards. One for UK, and one for US.

Absolute balls to that. It's such a palaver it's not worth it, just find the most suitable region and stick to it. 50hz PS1 gaming is out of the question, so US it is. I have nothing invested in the Vita PSN and don't care about trophies, so I'm going to get this to work.

Likewise, I found OoT to still be pretty mundane for the first few dungeons (nearly half the game's length).

What on earth? The first few dungeons in OoT are barely a fraction of the overall game. About 10% at most.

Also, I can think of quite a few examples where a game has benefitted from it having the Nintendo logo. Platinum's Bayonetta 2 being the obvious example, if not for the fact that the market ignored the first title.

The market raved for the first title. It got 10/10 reviews from mainstream press. No-one's going to buy B2 because no-one owns the console.

even though Rayman 2 was on the same quality level as Mario 64, and Rayman Legends being (arguably) better than NSMBWU.

I'm not having this conversation. It's ridiculous.

[replayme]

This is why I might opt for having two memory cards. One for UK, and one for US.

Absolute balls to that. It's such a palaver it's not worth it, just find the most suitable region and stick to it. 50hz PS1 game is out of the question, so US it is. I have nothing invested in the Vita PSN and don't care about trophies, so I'm going to get this to work.

Likewise, I found OoT to still be pretty mundane for the first few dungeons (nearly half the game's length).

What on earth? The first few dungeons in OoT are barely a fraction of the overall game. About 10% at most.

Also, I can think of quite a few examples where a game has benefitted from it having the Nintendo logo. Platinum's Bayonetta 2 being the obvious example, if not for the fact that the market ignored the first title.

The market raved for the first title. It got 10/10 reviews from mainstream press. No-one's going to buy B2 because no-one owns the console.

even though Rayman 2 was on the same quality level as Mario 64, and Rayman Legends being (arguably) better than NSMBWU.

I'm not having this conversation. It's ridiculous.

You finding this conversation ridiculous is akin to me finding the region locking on the 3DS as being ridiculous.

You dismiss Rayman but justify Bayonetta's 10/10, yet Rayman also got the same level of accolades.

There is little "truth" to what you say. Just a subjective interpretation (and rationalisation) as to why you prefer Nintendo.

I could also mention Everybody's Golf in the face of Mario Golf - both of which were done by the same developer.

[Skykid]

You finding this conversation ridiculous is akin to me finding the region locking on the 3DS as being ridiculous.

You and me both, it is ridiculous.

You dismiss Rayman but justify Bayonetta's 10/10, yet Rayman also got the same level of accolades.

I never justified Bayonetta's perfect scores, I think it's overrated and stated so on this forum years ago.

I hated Rayman's stupid design from the moment I first saw it on my PS1, and played that horrible game. I don't like the character, the world, or any of the titles he's in. There myriad better examples in the genre, most predating his appearance by several years.

ON TOPIC NOW:

What the f**k. Can someone just give me baby steps here. I'm back on an EU profile, restored all my stuff. Now how to I just transfer/backup game saves without the rest of it? When I go to Vita -> PC, it doesn't explicitly state Game Saves, it says 'Application Data'. Can I safely copy this over knowing that it is in-fact a save game?

It's really irritating that it can't just be more clear. I've seen a YT vid of someone transferring saves to cloud storage and it says 'saved games'!!!

[replayme]

I never liked Rayman 1 when I played it either. But Rayman 2 on DC was amazing. Rayman Origins has shmup bits, so it's awesome too - although over-rated imho. Still need to buy Rayman Legends for my Vita.

[Skykid]

I never liked Rayman 1 when I played it either. But Rayman 2 on DC was amazing. Rayman Origins has shmup bits, so it's awesome too - although over-rated imho. Still need to buy Rayman Legends for my Vita.

None of it's awesome, Rayman 2 stinks from the same horribly sluggish handling. Mediocre shmup bits don't justify Origins either.

Please let's stop talking about Rayman. I run a mile whenever I see that dopey idiot on anything.

Can someone please help me with this, it's getting frustrating:

What the f**k. Can someone just give me baby steps here. I'm back on an EU profile, restored all my stuff. Now how to I just transfer/backup game saves without the rest of it? When I go to Vita -> PC, it doesn't explicitly state Game Saves, it says 'Application Data'. Can I safely copy this over knowing that it is in-fact a save game?

It's really irritating that it can't just be more clear. I've seen a YT vid of someone transferring saves to cloud storage and it says 'saved games'!!!

[ZellSF]

Vita saves aren't separate from the games. If you copy the game, you copy the saves. If you copy any data related to the game, you copy the saves. The bubble contains all data related to the game.

Obviously it will only work for retail games (since with digital games, you would have saves for a region version of the game you can no longer play).

[Skykid]

Vita saves aren't separate from the games. If you copy the game, you copy the saves. If you copy any data related to the game, you copy the saves. The bubble contains all data related to the game.

Obviously it will only work for retail games (since with digital games, you would have saves for a region version of the game you can no longer play).

Right, so just to clarify, now that I've copied my retail 'Application Data' for dragon's crown from Vita to PC (about 30mb) my save is in there?

so I'm good to format again?

Because we know the full backup is region specific, and I can't do it that way and reload anything on the US profile.

[Friendly]

@Skykid

Here's a guide how to switch regions with one memory card: http://kotaku.com/5983578/how-to-play-j ... anese-vita

I haven't felt the need to do it myself because retail games are not region-specific, but if I did I'd simply use 2 memory cards.

[Skykid]

@Skykid

Here's a guide how to switch regions with one memory card: http://kotaku.com/5983578/how-to-play-j ... anese-vita

I haven't felt the need to do it myself because retail games are not region-specific, but if I did I'd simply use 2 memory cards.

Seen that one, it's incorrect: if you back up the entire system it won't load on a new region, and you lose your saves. I'm trying to just back up the saves and nothing else, then transfer them over.

US PSN has 60hz PS1 games, cheaper games, and a much bigger library. No choice really.

[Cuilan]

I'm pretty sure that Vita game saves are tied to the account that created them. So if you created a save file with one account and are trying to transfer it to a different account, it's not going to work.

[replayme]

I never liked Rayman 1 when I played it either. But Rayman 2 on DC was amazing. Rayman Origins has shmup bits, so it's awesome too - although over-rated imho. Still need to buy Rayman Legends for my Vita.

None of it's awesome, Rayman 2 stinks from the same horribly sluggish handling. Mediocre shmup bits don't justify Origins either.

Please let's stop talking about Rayman. I run a mile whenever I see that dopey idiot on anything.

Can someone please help me with this, it's getting frustrating:

What the f**k. Can someone just give me baby steps here. I'm back on an EU profile, restored all my stuff. Now how to I just transfer/backup game saves without the rest of it? When I go to Vita -> PC, it doesn't explicitly state Game Saves, it says 'Application Data'. Can I safely copy this over knowing that it is in-fact a save game?

It's really irritating that it can't just be more clear. I've seen a YT vid of someone transferring saves to cloud storage and it says 'saved games'!!!

You may not like Rayman, and that's a preference (and not a truism) - like how I don't like Pokemon. But even I don't speak in absolutes in this context.

Do you want to talk about Sonic Racing Transformed then?

[replayme]

@Skykid

Here's a guide how to switch regions with one memory card: http://kotaku.com/5983578/how-to-play-j ... anese-vita

I haven't felt the need to do it myself because retail games are not region-specific, but if I did I'd simply use 2 memory cards.

Seen that one, it's incorrect: if you back up the entire system it won't load on a new region, and you lose your saves. I'm trying to just back up the saves and nothing else, then transfer them over.

US PSN has 60hz PS1 games, cheaper games, and a much bigger library. No choice really.

I don't really suffer from this atm. My PSP takes care of my 60hz needs, and the screen gives the games that much required interlaced look. On the Vita, all my PS1 games end up looking just a bit too "clean".

[Skykid]

I'm pretty sure that Vita game saves are tied to the account that created them. So if you created a save file with one account and are trying to transfer it to a different account, it's not going to work.

Holy crap are you completely sure about that. Various online guides mention you can transfer everything except trophies, but suggest the full backup which doesn't work.

Edit: Google surfing says you're right. I'm fudged. My Dragon's Crown save is tied to the PSN acc. - what a horrible system limitation.

Equally, there seems to be no way to backup saves alone without PS+ - what kind of bullshit is that? So I have to use over a gig of space just to back up some teeny save files, each and every time. Not cool.

[Cuilan]

Holy crap are you completely sure about that. Various online guides mention you can transfer everything except trophies, but suggest the full backup which doesn't work.

It sounds to me like those guides are describing how to restore your content after you've switched back to your original account. As far as I know, the only time it was ever possible to have content from multiple regions on a single memory card was back when the Vita had "easy" account switching support (removed after firmware update). However, all content obtained/created that way would still be associated only with the account that downloaded/created it (and only free demos/apps would be useable with a different account).

For example: back when I got a Vita at US launch, I had only one memory card and decided to switch from my US account to my JP one. Back then, the system didn't force you to reformat the memory card whenever you wanted to change accounts. While in my JP one, I downloaded some demos and the JP nicovideo app, and also some full PSP games that I bought with that account. I then switched back to my US account and again did not format the card. The demos and nicovideo app were still fully functional/useable with my US account, but I could not play the JP PSP games. And now that Sony has removed the ability to do that, I can no longer redownload that content unless I both switch accounts and reformat the card or use a different card. Even after the firmware update, I can still use whatever I still have on my card (as long as it's a free app/demo) with my US account, but I'll never be able to have content from both accounts on the same card again after I delete anything.

[Skykid]

Oh ffs... Is anyone else suddenly unable to sign into PSN?

[Friendly]

Right now there is scheduled maintenance, they announced it a week ago: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/ ... /a_id/2185

[Skykid]

Right now there is scheduled maintainance, they announced it a week ago: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/ ... /a_id/2185

[Friendly]

The savegame problem is annoying; I've been meaning to switch to US-PSN, too. But it makes sense that saves are tied to a PSN account; it's certainly better than tying them to the hardware itself. At least this way you can create backups and restore them on a different system.
I suggest you get a cheap 4GB memory card for your European account; they cost next to nothing now and should be big enough for a few saves (unless you have downloaded PSN content)..