trap15 wrote:Please explain how it's a hack. It doesn't modify the game in any way. It is not a hack. It is widely accepted as normal and standard in all real arcade scenarios, and I don't think I've ever heard of a JP arcade without some form of autofire setup.
If it wasn't originally in on the game's release date, it's a hack. Why this so hard to get? Oh, right, right, right. You're in denial. ... You'll get over it, and become a better shmuping man once you put things like insane auto fire rates behind you, too.
You'll see, and you'll thank me.
Acid King wrote:The high score table allows autofire because it's standard in Japanese arcades and disallowing it would mean not allowing participants to compete on comparable terms. You can still submit entries without it, so I don't see the big deal.
Honestly, I don't see how this is much different than using autofire in Mushihimesama. It may not have been something Cave put in the PCB, but it became standard after players realized they could exploit the scoring system better with autofire hacks and Cave ended up making them a feature in the ports. Taito probably did the same thing for the Darius Gaiden port after seeing autofire circuits become standard for high score players and in arcades.
Well, maybe the official Darius Gaiden was rebalanced around the much higher auto fire rate, but it still don't mean the original was.
And I don't care what the Japanese do if it's wrong. Especiallly in these days where all gamers are getting real lazy when it comes to playing more challenging games. Japan included. Cause what's wrong is wrong. Simple as that. And what most do is pretty freakin retarded for the most part, let's face it (don't mean to be rude with this remark, but saldy it's very true. And all the more reason to think for yourself. Always).
And you're bringing a Cave game's auto fire to compare?! Lame. Ultra combo lame.
Jaimers wrote:The standard for competitive play and records everywhere is with autofire enabled. Which makes discussion about that irrelevant and pointless if you want to compete.
You can still play the game casually however you like.
Again. If it's 1 delay/30Hz auto fire that goes well above what the game was designed around (as in. It breaks the game. The game is broken. You've just enabled a super cheat code! Ding, ding, ding. etc. etc), then this is some load of BS, and I'm not buying. ... It also must mean that total pussy gamers completely rule the world now (and again, I do not exaggerate. These so called gamers are beyond pitiful & only gamers I witness with my own eyes anymore)? Even in Japan it seems? And this really breaks my heart, casue it's only a matter of time now when challenging video games becomes a complete thing of the past.
There's already words like "Nintendo hard." These holding hand games of today are just the beginning.
MathU wrote:I feel I've said just about all I can possibly say on this in
several other threads now. Pretty simply: the ~30 Hz rapidfire hack/cheat attached to some arcade setups and found in the console ports cracks the game wide open, eliminating a fair bit of the depth from the game and very drastically lowering its difficulty. This idea that you need to break your hand to beat the game is silly. The game's default firing rate is perfectly adequate for handling the vast majority of situations without ever even needing to tap the shot button. Part of the skill in the game is all about learning how to use your weapons properly and rapidfire removes the necessity for that.
Yes, all you say makes perfect sense. Shocking others can't see it? Especially with all these pitiful & invalid excuses I'm getting as to why it's perfectly fine, like "Hey man, this PCP here is real good. And cut just right. No, it don't turn people in vegetables at an alarming rate. Why would everyone be doing it then? Here, it's fine. Trust me. Be one of us. One of us." And there are so many valid reasons why it's so wrong too. *Sigh* Why are people not seeing the abvious here, MathU? What's really up & I'm missing? Cause this shouldn't even be a debate, in how open and shut this case is. ... Unless that pussy gamer remark of mine is more contagious then I thought? (And relax, I'm far from an above average skilled gamer or even a masochist. I mean, I'll even play easy mode for a bit to wet my feet if I feel the game is butt kicking me too much. It's just that I believe in being honest with oneself. Unbelieveable that people lie to themselves, but
everyone does it. Why you got to
always keep an eye out for it).