Mars Matrix - what's the deal here?

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:57 am

Neo Rasa wrote:FRO when I'm playing by myself I use the straight laser ship

Neo Rasa, we'd like to keep this a kid-friendly site, so please avoid talk like this.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:00 am

professor ganson wrote: Neo Rasa, we'd like to keep this a kid-friendly site, so please avoid talk like this.

Be happy I wasn't talking about Hotdog Storm.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:10 am

Neo Rasa wrote:
professor ganson wrote: Neo Rasa, we'd like to keep this a kid-friendly site, so please avoid talk like this.
Be happy I wasn't talking about Hotdog Storm.

Heh heh (welcome to the club).

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:31 am

Rob wrote: This thread put me in a MM mood, so I recorded a little better chain for stage 3 (+1975, 1.9 million exp). 2.6mb

Ex_Mosquito wrote: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/Ex_M ... 3chain.avi

Excellent videos, cheers

Got me in the mood for some mars matrix - and then got a serious reminder of how bad I am at it

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:24 am

Rob wrote:
FRO wrote:It seems like they aren't doing much (though I must admit when dying as often as I have been probably means I'm not collecting enough to do any good before I'm wasted).
In addition to what the others have said, they also make you feel really cool.

This thread put me in a MM mood, so I recorded a little better chain for stage 3 (+1975, 1.9 million exp). 2.6mb

Pretty sick, Rob.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:48 am

Here's a level 1 video (1027 chain, 490,000 exp): http://rapidshare.de/files/7470744/mm1-1027c.avi.html

I'll try to get a complete stage 2 chain this weekend for good measure.

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:52 am

Excellent vids rob:)

I'll try to get a complete stage 2 chain this weekend for good measure.

I'd love to see this, i've only ever managed a full level chain once on stage 2, the mid-section is so dry of cubes. I just gave up at the end and just went for two smaller ones.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:44 am

Ex_Mosquito wrote: I'd love to see this, i've only ever managed a full level chain once on stage 2, the mid-section is so dry of cubes. I just gave up at the end and just went for two smaller ones.

Just managed to bridge the gap but blew it since I hadn't bothered to practice the entire stage.

The critical section (30 sec clip, midstage): http://rapidshare.de/files/7473486/mm2-aghh.avi.html

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:38 pm

i vote rob for president.

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:22 pm

d'oh for some reason it wont dl off that site, i click "free" then it goes to another page and then nothing happens.

Anyone else have this problem?

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:26 pm

Ex_Mosquito wrote:d'oh for some reason it wont dl off that site, i click "free" then it goes to another page and then nothing happens.

Anyone else have this problem?

Maybe this will help? On that next page (after you click 'free') scroll down toward the bottom and wait about 15 seconds. Then the download will appear in large type. Click on that to be duly impressed.

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:29 pm

Yeah thats what i did, the level 3 replay worked okay but for some reason it doesnt give me the dl prompt, strange

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:10 am

Level 2 complete chain (1488 - 570,000 exp): 8mb

One major flaw: I think I missed about 100 small cubes at the end (150,000+ exp) by not absorbing the large ship attacks (you can get 4+ volleys of 30 or so bullets and I only got one).

Level 4?

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:34 pm

Just some ignorant/unimportant questions for Rob, or anyone else that cares to answer. Please ignore if they're annoying.

1. How do you make videos? Do you do so by playing on MAME or can you do so on the DC?
2. If you play on the DC, do you use the standard controller for MM? (I don't think it's a terrible controller-- I guess I'm just wondering if you prefer a stick for DC shmups generally.)
3. Just curious whether you prefer to map the various commands to different buttons-- it seems a bit easier to me though sometimes I like having just one or two buttons to worry about.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:42 pm

well:

2. The joystick is, in my opinion, better, as it's easier to throw back bullets at the right angle. It is a matter of practice and habit, though.

3.Be careful about using the auto piercing cannon, when switching to other modes, you will get a small delay. It can be extremely risky in situations in which you need to to reflect immediately after a piercing blast.

Ah Rob, smooth job on stage 2, but yeah, i think that you can squeeze about a +100 on the overall chain.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:43 pm

I can't view any of these videos. That lame site keeps telling me I've downloaded 29842 KB in an hour and can't download anymore without subscribing. I haven't downloaded anything though

Could anyone put these somewhere else maybe perhaps please?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:56 pm

professor ganson wrote:Just some ignorant/unimportant questions for Rob, or anyone else that cares to answer. Please ignore if they're annoying.

1. How do you make videos? Do you do so by playing on MAME or can you do so on the DC?
2. If you play on the DC, do you use the standard controller for MM? (I don't think it's a terrible controller-- I guess I'm just wondering if you prefer a stick for DC shmups generally.)
3. Just curious whether you prefer to map the various commands to different buttons-- it seems a bit easier to me though sometimes I like having just one or two buttons to worry about.

1. Video capture device + VCR. I have a Dazzle Digital Video Creator 80 and it works well enough. I hook the DC up through a VCR (which unfortunately is A/V, mono), record. Then hook the VCR up to the cable that connects to the comp, rewind, hit play and transfer.
2./3. Standard controller, one button for each command (left = auto-piercing, bottom = single shot/absorb, right = rapid shot).

Tychom · Post by **Tychom** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:31 pm

MrMonkeyMan wrote: Could anyone put these somewhere else maybe perhaps please?

try these,

http://www.tychom.org/shmups/mm-level3.avi
http://www.tychom.org/shmups/mm1-1027c.avi
http://www.tychom.org/shmups/mm2-aghh.avi
http://www.tychom.org/shmups/mm2-1488c.avi
http://www.tychom.org/shmups/mm3-1975c.avi

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:46 pm

Nice work Rob, impressive stuff. Wish i never sold my DC now.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:03 pm

All of this talk about MM-- I had to set Dragon Blaze aside for a few days. Really my ONLY complaint: Doesn't level 2 seem a bit long? I love how intense MM is, but with this level of intensity I need frequent breaks. Granted, there are stretches in level 2 where things mellow out, but I still feel that the level is a bit too long.
Still one of the best games I've ever played. Period.

Thanks for the responses Rob & Rando. I might try going back to the stick, but right now I feel most comfortable with the dpad w/ one button for each command.

Xexyz · Post by **Xexyz** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:17 pm

The length of Level 2 has never really bothered me personally, thanks to the frequent breaks in action. What I really dislike about it is trying to keep a chain once you get to the turrents and progress through the tank/spaceship bullet field. It's impossible for me.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:08 am

Thanks for mirroring them, Tychom.

Stage 4 here (1896 chain - 810,000 exp). 6mb*

*yep, named it wrong

Wish I could post it at a little higher quality because the compression makes the action a bit hard to see in the final quarter. Slightly different timing and I could have received a bigger payoff at the end, again.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:45 am

last one:

stage 5 (1925 chain - 1.5 million exp).

Anyone play elite mode a?