Youtube is pissing me off

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Youtube is pissing me off

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So, I got an email notifying me of a "private message" I received. Naturally, I go to my youtube inbox to see the full thing.

Problem? The message ISN'T THERE. Even if I get there using the links in the actual fucking notification.

For some reason Youtube claims I have two accounts--I checked both of them. Neither of them feature the message I got a notification about.

Is there some special thing I have to do to see personal messages, or is this a known bug with Youtube?
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Edmond Dantes wrote:So, I got an email notifying me of a "private message" I received. Naturally, I go to my youtube inbox to see the full thing.

Problem? The message ISN'T THERE. Even if I get there using the links in the actual fucking notification.

For some reason Youtube claims I have two accounts--I checked both of them. Neither of them feature the message I got a notification about.

Is there some special thing I have to do to see personal messages, or is this a known bug with Youtube?
yeah it is very confusing

the 2 accounts thing is to do with G+ integration

I think they setup a default youtube based on your gmail email account or G+ profile.

I find it very confusing as I never know if I'm supposed to be logged in as 'Ray Trace' or 'Raytrace' hahahaha
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Youtube seems to go under maintenance almost every night now. And the new channel layout is complete shit. The site isn't nearly as good as it was some years ago.
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It has early '00 buffering issues again 'n new unskippable ads and messaging is what we're complaining about?

If you're signed in on any of google's services (with an alt account, etc.), then do as much as visit youtube, it will automatically create a new account for that username/profile.
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DJ Incompetent wrote:It has early '00 buffering issues again 'n new unskippable ads and messaging is what we're complaining about?
The buffering issue comes from the fact that you cant specify a certain resolution, even if you do, it will throttle to the best resolution and start to back down till it gets to 144p (yes even lower than 240p) then try to throttle up again. for some one who watches a lot of youtube stuff, i prefer to watch on my smartphone, coz it apparently doesnt throttle resolutions (has only two resolution i guess, HD + nonHD), its started to suck watching on the computer.
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Yeah, if they could allow you to turn off the auto-switching resolutions, I imagine a ton of the problems would be fixed... :evil:
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To fix that, just click on the gear icon and select the resolution you want. The default option is automatic which will change resolutions all the time, hence all the buffering.

The annoying part is that you need to do that every time you watch a new video.
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Yeah, that's what I mean :wink:
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I just checked my settings and noticed Youtube automatically turned on "Allow ads to be displayed with my videos". What the fuck?

I've also been getting buffering, playback refuses to start until I reload the entire page and constantly switching the resolution like a piece of shit issues.

Web 2.0 is shit. The whole site chugs if you're looking at a page with more than 20 videos on it.
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By the way, how much revenue are you guys making from ads? I figured having ads all over my videos for a few cents wasn't worth it so I never became a "youtube partner". I like my shit ad-free.
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For me, it would be pointless because I mainly use Youtube to upload footage of the games I made, which is used as embeds on the game website.
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Edmond Dantes wrote:So, I got an email notifying me of a "private message" I received. Naturally, I go to my youtube inbox to see the full thing.

Problem? The message ISN'T THERE. Even if I get there using the links in the actual fucking notification.
Are you sure this wasn't a phishing scam?
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Udderdude wrote:For me, it would be pointless because I mainly use Youtube to upload footage of the games I made, which is used as embeds on the game website.
Why aren't you letting established brands piggyback their ads on your success? Are you selfish or something?

The best is when ad revenue doesn't go to you, but goes to some group claiming ownership of something you made. I haven't run into this but there are cases of industry representative / YouTube-approved and -assisted content trolling services flagging things that they had no business flagging, and making money off other people's stuff, when that money should have gone to the uploaders. I guess everybody's gotta have a rep these days...it makes sense that YouTube/Google went this route instead of having to keep up a persistently adversarial relationship with "content owners" but the new system is certainly ripe for abuses which are outside of what people expect. I don't have a terribly large amount of sympathy for anybody who uploads somebody else's music over their stuttery, shitty Call of Duty videos and expects to make money off that, but that is definitely not all that's going on. There is also a case to be made that it's reasonable for people to have viewed this as just a more public version of a classic mixtape (nevermind what pops up when you search for "mixtape" in Google...tons of hits!).

I have always stayed away from ad revenue since they offered me revenue sharing on some little FRAPS video I made of in-game Thief 2. What, I can't take money from that! I knew that might end badly so I avoided it.
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I hate how youtube recently removed the "stop downloading" option from the right click menu.
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Ruldra wrote:Youtube seems to go under maintenance almost every night now. And the new channel layout is complete shit. The site isn't nearly as good as it was some years ago.

It pisses me off insanely. I spent tons of hours building backgrounds and backing them up to cycle through for years then in 1 quick swoop they forced everyone to "upgrade" to the new layout and all that work is now useless. And yes the new layout doesn't look as good and takes way more experimentation in order to get a decent looking banner, but the worst problem with it is unless you are using a repeating pattern (which is usually boring) then it's completely impossible to get something to look good on all 3 types with their forced shitbag crop system (computer, handheld, tv). They don't even have the brains to give you the option of uploading a different picture for each type. At best you can get the first 2 to look ok, after a lot of trouble, but the tv option will look stupid. That's the best you can hope for unless you are using small repeated patterns. Assholes. Even changing your avatar is a dick in the ass now. You have to login to some G+ bullshit and upload a photo into an album and go through cropping etc. Absolute idiots.
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This is just a case of Google struggling to continue to employ their Youtube software engineers. The site was perfect years back, as far as I'm concerned. But these guys have to continue to earn their salaries.

I've run into more hindrances than benefits while using Youtube in the past year or two.
Ruldra wrote: By the way, how much revenue are you guys making from ads? I figured having ads all over my videos for a few cents wasn't worth it so I never became a "youtube partner". I like my shit ad-free.
Youtube calculates this by $1 US for every ten-thousand views, multiplied by an amount relative to the number of subscribers a channel has. Likes may also factor in. That's why some people put a "Like, subscribe, comment!" advisory after their videos.
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Unsavory future for a lot of programmers. Once your task at hand is done you could be less than useless.

That advert payment equation is one of the worst things I've ever read. I expected it to be 100 times that and still turned it down.
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I want to know how and why now it refuses to buffer ahead unless it has exhausted the already-streamed data. It's not like we're still using dial-up.
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Specineff wrote:I want to know how and why now it refuses to buffer ahead unless it has exhausted the already-streamed data. It's not like we're still using dial-up.
It's done this for a while now, I think its to save them bandwidth costs. Not us.
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Use JDownloader or something similar to download the movie file, it'll download at full speed. You get to keep it forever as a bonus instead of it getting removed a week later.
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Daigohji wrote:
Edmond Dantes wrote:So, I got an email notifying me of a "private message" I received. Naturally, I go to my youtube inbox to see the full thing.

Problem? The message ISN'T THERE. Even if I get there using the links in the actual fucking notification.
Are you sure this wasn't a phishing scam?
... The links took me straight to Youtube. But I did consider that the message might've been just to get me to link YT to my GPlus account.

Also, update: The person who sent me the PM apparently had their account deleted for multiple TOS violations... which prolly supports the "phishing" theory as some providers don't really demolish accounts, they just assign them to bots.
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What the fuck! I'm uploading a video and then I start watching an older one I had uploaded, and get this:

Not only is it kicking me down to 144p, it won't let me select 240p even though it's listed.
What the fuck stupid shit is this!?
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trap15 wrote:What the fuck! I'm uploading a video and then I start watching an older one I had uploaded, and get this:

Not only is it kicking me down to 144p, it won't let me select 240p even though it's listed.
What the fuck stupid shit is this!?
Yeah it greys out options that fail to buffer and drops to the next one, even if a higher option is still selectable :lol:

off topic but Twitch.tv is getting worse as well. Now you have to watch a 20-second advertisement every time you start watching a recording, whee
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I see Youtube is serving video in a format other than the old FLV. Does anyone know if a standalone media player supports this? VLC does not.
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Isn't that the HTML5 video?

You could try disabling the HTML5 player in favor of flash (if this still works) and then getting the FLV as normal.
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Afaik youtube serves video as either flv, mp4, webm or I think 3gp aswell.
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At this point, I've considered downloading anything on Youtube I want to watch in Miro, making myself a cup of tea, and then watching the downloaded FLV.

The fact that videos don't buffer when paused anymore is the actual worst thing ever.
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I use Linterna Mágica to watch youtube videos... I can't stand the default player, it's getting progressively worse
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I only stream YouTube on my TV using MediaPortal's excellent Online Videos plugin. Can download the streams in your preferred format as well. :) If I try to stream on my laptop, I mostly get hiccups, and the rage is there for sure.
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null1024 wrote:The fact that videos don't buffer when paused anymore is the actual worst thing ever.
It's an asshole option thing turned on called Dash Playback.

Here's how to turn it off
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