XRGB-mini Framemeister

[Fudoh]

If i run Turrican on my SNES/Famicom in 60 Hz the Picture is razor-sharp running at 720p/60, 4:3, Picture Mode, Normal2.
But it's kind of.... pixelated. Sure the 42 inches are big part of the problem i guess but does anyone have recommended settings for that kind of "issue" (240p devices). Would a 1chip SNES be an advantage ?

I'm quite certain you're using the wrong term. Is pixelated really what you mean ? In general pixelated refers to very sharp low-res graphics on large hi-res screens. If you want it less pixelated, go with 480p output instead, it kinda blurs the graphics. Or increase the H-SCALER setting to about 12. A 1CHIP SNES is evern sharper and will produce a more "pixelated" image.

[Cirdan]

You're right - it's a large display. So i'll give it a try with a different output - thanx.

[Konsolkongen]

Add some scanlines to the image to make it appear softer.

[dark1x]

Some caps via AmaRecTV. Would really like to figure out why alternate resolutions are bombing out. :\



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[BuckoA51]

Might help if you told us what capture device you're using?

[dark1x]

Might help if you told us what capture device you're using?

A Blackmagic Intensity Pro fed by the XRGB Mini at 720p.

[Fudoh]

I can just iterate what I said before: even with v-sync switched off in the menu, the output is still not unlocked from the input. And this renders the Mini incompatible with the BMD - at least with a number of sources. You're lucky that your MD works this nicely.

[eightbitminiboss]

This is gonna be a copy and paste of a post I wrote in another forum regarding the Bandridge switch:

There was a little bit of talk in IRC about recommended SCART switches. Decided to take a minute to upload a couple of screenshots to compare a direct connection to a XRGB mini and going through the Bandridge SVB7725 SCART switch that you can import easily and cheaply.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/26552

Take notice that the colors aren't what they look like because I haven't done any sort of color correction on the capture card I use but it looks great on my TV either way. As you can see in those shots, there's no signal degradation beyond making the image a smidge darker.

[Galgomite]

Would someone help me understand two things regarding the Mini, or really TVs using the Mini:
1) I notice many people are playing in 720p on 1080p screens so that scanlines render properly, but this of course requires an upscale in the TV. How does a 1080p TV upscale each line of a 720p signal so exactly that scanlines aren't messed up?
2) Similarly I have a 720p TV which is a 1366x768 panel. How on earth does it fill the screen without blurring everything and again distorting scanlines?

[Cirdan]

A silly question perhaps, but i don't find that option switching v-sync to off.
Can someone tell me the menu navigation ?

THX

Cir

[MMJuno]

Would someone help me understand two things regarding the Mini, or really TVs using the Mini:
1) I notice many people are playing in 720p on 1080p screens so that scanlines render properly, but this of course requires an upscale in the TV. How does a 1080p TV upscale each line of a 720p signal so exactly that scanlines aren't messed up?

#1 is a good question. Maybe it just ultimately depends on the choice of TV..? At 720p output, I do get uneven scan lines on mine. It's not that bad on stuff with a lot of colors, but when you get to large areas of solid color it sticks out to me like a sore thumb. The only thing I've been able to do on my TV with scan lines and get them to look correct is to put it into 1080p output and use the Smart x2 mode.

[geekmiki]

Yes, it's the one sold by retrogamingcables.co.uk specifically for the Mini, so it does.

I'd try disconnecting the sync cleaner or buying an adapter without one.

I know this is from a while ago, but the shipping of the SCART to MiniDIN cable without a sync stripper took forever.

Anyway, I confirm that the DC->VGA->UMSA->SCART to MiniDIN->Framemeister setup is now working perfectly!

Thanks BuckoA51 and Fudoh for your help and advice.

Maybe it's worth mentioning in the wiki that the required cable for the DC has to be the one without a sync stripper?

[Fudoh]

Let's just say, that there's no need for a sync stripper on the Mini with ANY source. It has been useful on the XRGB-3 and on the Mini prior to the sync level adjustment. If anybody experienced something differently, please let us know.

[BuckoA51]

Why the sync stripper would stop it working is a bit of a mystery. Was your cable the one with the power adapter for the sync stripper that piggy backed the mini?

I will have to go in the loft and find the cables to wire up my N64 sans sync stripper and see if that works now.

[Bog]

Just got my XRGB Mini, so now I'm in need of some SCART cables for the major consoles. Of course the retro access eBay store is shut down for 6 weeks, so what's the second best place for cables? I'm in the US if that matters.

[geekmiki]

Why the sync stripper would stop it working is a bit of a mystery. Was your cable the one with the power adapter for the sync stripper that piggy backed the mini?

I will have to go in the loft and find the cables to wire up my N64 sans sync stripper and see if that works now.

The cable with a sync stripper I had was this one:
http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/mico ... ipper.html

No power adapter or whatsoever...

Replaced by the regular one:
http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/euro ... -sale.html

And now everything works like a charm.

[akumajo]

http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/xdac-1.htm

Looks like a new product from Micomsoft! I can't think of how this could be useful in conjuction with the mini, but thought this would be the best place to share!

could be usefull for those of us who likes to play in 5.1 with modern sources and capture in 2.0
now the question is, can it convert 5.1 to 2.0 (which I doubt)

also, XCAPTURE-1 should be released early july (the same thing as SC-512N1-L/DVI but external USB3.0 device with more inputs).

[marqs]

could be usefull for those of us who likes to play in 5.1 with modern sources and capture in 2.0
now the question is, can it convert 5.1 to 2.0 (which I doubt)

I wonder if that supports extraction of Dolby True HD, DTS-HD or multi-channel PCM from the HDMI signal. Probably not, as it doesn't seem to have multi-channel analog outputs. That would have been quite nice feature, as it would have allowed to use those lossless formats even with older amplifiers.

[Seraphic]

For that XDAC-1...

It says the unit works with:
DolbyDigital 5.1ch or LinearPCM 2ch of (AC3) / DTS 5.1/AAC

Also says it does not work with:
DolbyTrueHD, DTS HD High Resolution Audio, and DTS HD Master Audio.

Nothing about multi-channel LPCM (but doubt it).

[s8n]

im want to buy a Framemeister at some point , im from Australia and our mains is 240V do i need a stepdown converter for the Framemeister's PSU ?

[Fudoh]

Yes, or just a 5V replacement PSU (2.5A).

[s8n]

thanks Fudoh

[Bog]

Do I need a step down in the US?

[eightbitminiboss]

Do I need a step down in the US?

Not really no, it works fine in the US with it's stock AC adapter. Though if you want to be safe, you can get a replacement power supply or step down transformer.

[BuckoA51]

Is the replacement PSU you linked to confirmed working? If so I will add it to the wiki

[shinjig]

Do I need a step down in the US?

I've got 2 framemeisters at home in the US. No need for any step down converter, just plug and play.

[eightbitminiboss]

Is the replacement PSU you linked to confirmed working? If so I will add it to the wiki

Yes I own it, one of the included tips is the right size for the XRGB Mini's jack. I just didn't use it much because the adapter is so huge that it actually blocks off another plug on my current power strip.

[Bog]

Is there a translation of the manual anywhere? So far I haven't done more than plug a source in and jump between Game 1, Game 2, Meister, etc. I know this thing does WAY more, but I don't have much more than the translated remote overlay. Thanks!

[Bog]

I've got a Genesis hooked up via composite (yeah yeah, cable girl is on vacation), and while it outputs fine at 480p, 1080i and 1080p, I get a signal drop about every 5 seconds at 720p. Is there a cause for that?

[Naiera]

I get a "wobbly" image using my Neo Geo AES from time to time. It is perhaps best described as a sort of tearing that also makes the picture jump a bit. It'll come and go, and there doesn't seem to be a pattern.

Any idea as to what to do to try to make it go away?