PS4 / Xbox One console war

[AntiFritz]

What's this starting an argument in every thread? Links?

I obviously don't have links because I don't catalogue every dumb argument you get into. I also obviously didn't mean literally "every" thread, just a bad choice of words.

I haven't had argument in this thread yet.

btw you spelled congratulation wrong

[Skykid]

btw you spelled congratulation wrong

They're classic video game references. You didn't get it?

[AntiFritz]

Ghost busters?

[ancestral-knowledge]

could you all please stfu? I do not want this thread locked....

All in all it seems XboxOne will be horrible. It's a shame putting out such garbag after the awesome Xbox360.

[Ed Oscuro]

could you all please stfu? I do not want this thread locked....

All in all it seems XboxOne will be horrible. It's a shame putting out such garbag after the awesome Xbox360.

You, sir, are a gentleman (I think) and a scholar, and your post is filled with great understanding.

Xbox 360 has been very good and yet it is sad that the Xbox One is likely to be a failure in many respects.

[Skykid]

Xbox 360 has been very good and yet it is sad that the Xbox One is likely to be a failure in many respects.

It gets what it deserves imo. If MS really want to usher in a new age of infringing on customer rights and freedoms, I hope they bomb so hard that no other company will ever consider following suit ever again. This is not the way the industry needs to go.

[system11]

no-one has a counter argument to friendly because we actually agree with him that this xbox1 is probbly going to be garbage.
statements like lol ps4 wins just show how childish and dumb friendly actually is.he doesn't care if a consumer product will be good or not he just wants sony to be percieved as the best console to justify his planned purchases.look at him constantly defending his oouya purchase because it will be able to stream some video when it is meant to be a games console first and foremost.
friendly can win the war for all i care but at the end of the day he will still be a biased poster so therefore his opinion is pretty much worthless.if you can't see why being biased is bad then it is you who has trouble with basic intelligence.
I hardly spend any time on here browsing or posting and i have seen a multitude of people asking him to lighten up on the sony propaganda(some politely,some not so) but he still persists.oh yeah we are the ones with reading comprehension problems

Dear moderators, is a post like that considered acceptable behaviour?

Dear Friendly, stop waving your militant Sony banners quite so obnoxiously and then you can complain about people annoyed by it. Seriously, I've had a couple of people complain to me directly. It's bordering on spam at the moment and it's making people cranky. Chill out. We know which side you prefer, we don't need you to support every pro-PS4 comment and contradict every pro-Xbone one.

[Friendly]

I meant the unwarranted insults. The stuff referred to as "conduct" in the forum rules.

[trap15]

It's not unwarranted.

[louisg]

Yeah, FTR I was pretty annoyed by the constant stream of pro-Sony spam too, I just didn't want to argue about it. It's not that Friendly can't back up any of his assertions, it's just the attitude and lack of nuance which is getting to me.... even if I do generally agree with his stance on how intrusive the proposed X1 DRM is, including hoping that it tanks if MS insists on going with their scheme.

[system11]

Yeah, it's like preaching to the choir over and over again. We're already mostly on the same page about the downsides of the Xbone. The same story is everywhere you look, they've even taken to locking threads on the official xbox forum.

Nobody is impressed. I hope Sony use the opportunity to score massive fanbase points by not doing the exact same thing, but you never know. The publishers want it, are Sony brave enough to say "you're going to have to publish on our console anyway, so just deal with it"?

[neorichieb1971]

Is it true that Germany and another country have said they won't sell the system?

[Teufel_in_Blau]

I just checked three big German news sites (Heise, Spiegel and FAZ) and I couldn't find anything about a ban.

Maybe some misunderstanding?

[neorichieb1971]

Someone at work was speaking about the XBone's policies and that EU countries would boycott the system completely. I think Germany and Spain were mentioned. Perhaps legal policy will differ on this console based on the region its sold in. Its obvious to me that what might float in the USA isn't necessarily going to float in every other country.

[system11]

One German minister expressed concern, that's all there is to that story afaik.

[dave4shmups]

One German minister expressed concern, that's all there is to that story afaik.

There's news on that here:http://www.gamespot.com/news/german-com ... es-6408935 And Microsoft seeks to assure people about their privacy here: http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft- ... es-6408951

I'm sure that it will be sold in European countries.

[dcharlieJP]

The big problem with all this is that Xbone can simply roll back if they need to, hell, Sony - for all the low level noise coming back - might have already decided on this stuff as well and might be implimenting something similar.

The sooner E3 is out the way hopefully we can get back to discussing which of the console manufacturers is the least shit.

[dave4shmups]

My biggest concern with Kinect is that you'll have to have it to use the Xbox One, which I think is a huge mistake. Sure, the technology is better then Kinect now, but a lot of people (myself included) just don't care. Microsoft should have made it optional, like it is now for the Xbox 360. Plus, I think that including it will drive up the price of the Xbox One to the point where it will be the PS3 of this generation. The problem with that is that the economy is a lot worse off then it was in 2006, and I think a lot fewer people will be willing to shell out $500 or $600, because not as many people have that much money to spare.

[louisg]

Yeah, so far the design sounds like "too many cooks"-- "IT NEEDS TO USE KINECT!" "IT NEEDS STRONG DRM!" etc etc. I wonder how many poor people at MS were tearing their hair out in these design meetings.

I wonder if there'll be a system this generation that isn't too expensive and doesn't break in a month. Maybe I'll spend this generation enjoying indie games on my laptop instead.

[dcharlieJP]

The problem with that is that the economy is a lot worse off then it was in 2006, and I think a lot fewer people will be willing to shell out $500 or $600, because not as many people have that much money to spare.

as universally ordinary as the WiiU is i am starting to wonder if that is the long term play Nintendo are looking at : Let Sony and MS tie themselves up in shit, hope their consoles launch around the $400 mark, have our big first parties ready to go back end of 2013 to hit just as first gen X1/P4 titles don't look to deliver on the promise - then slash the price down to $199/19800 yen (as is already happening in Japan in some places, some second hand places carrying the base unit for 17,800 yen)

As long as Nintendo can wheel out some games that don't suck (Mario Kart, Zelda, Mario 3D) -and- get the price down the could be onto something.

[system11]

Doubt it - they've abandoned the larger market - the Wii-U could be $100 and still nobody would buy it.

[Ed Oscuro]

I might be ready to go back to Nintendo. Wish they still supported the DS though - last time I looked at dates, Nintendo hasn't been switching handhelds much faster than they used to, but it feels that way. It is getting burdensome to try to keep a system to play everything, and of course many of the good ol' systems could use an update. Of course, Nintendo could be feeling the lesson is that they haven't changed systems enough, for the home console space, and admittedly I haven't jumped on the post-GameCube bandwagon for home consoles. The systems where I would appreciate more backwards compatibility the most have been dropping it, and the systems where I haven't been invested are the ones to have it. Sheesh.

[Specineff]

Wasn't the issue about Germany related to a law that forbids non-transferable licenses?

[Moniker]

Doubt it - they've abandoned the larger market - the Wii-U could be $100 and still nobody would buy it.

I dunno. I know a lot of people who held out getting a Wii until the new Smash Bros came out, and others who got turned on to it by Wii Fit. I also remember people complaining about the Wii launch not having games - only a mediocre Zelda. It doesn't have the immediate appeal of the Wii with the Wii Sports & such. Hopefully some killer apps will turn things around.

My crystal ball says next gen will closely resemble this gen. WiiU having enough god-tier 1st party and odd niche games to distinguish itself, while MS, Sony & Steam dominate everywhere else. Question is whether Nintendo can afford to lose all the non-gamer sales it gobbled up w/ the Wii.

[BryanM]

Nintendo seems to be the only one that gives a shit about games. Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest.... Bayonetatata.... Orange and blue and ropes doesn't seem to be a good investment in the long tail.

Squaresoft specifically seems to have gone insane. Mobile social cardgames for cellphones and 1st p. generic western shooters. Ah, good times.

[MOSQUITO FIGHTER]

Nintendo seems to be the only one that gives a shit about games. Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest.... Bayonetatata.... Orange and blue and ropes doesn't seem to be a good investment in the long tail.

Squaresoft specifically seems to have gone insane. Mobile social cardgames for cellphones and 1st p. generic western shooters. Ah, good times.

I think Microsoft did say that they had about fifteen first party games in development for the Xbone.

[dcharlieJP]

Nintendo seems to be the only one that gives a shit about games. Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest.... Bayonetatata.... Orange and blue and ropes doesn't seem to be a good investment in the long tail.

well, getting MH from under Sony's nose was an impressive and extremely agressive move though , as someone who has played every MH game, left me slightly befuddled that the G revision of the wii version had switched platforms (plus other cross over in MH3rdP) so whilst i really want to fight the warping Narga i'm a little bit done with -3-. For me personally - fuck it - i wanted MH4 on the Vita if it had to be on a portable. MH3G on 3DS looks great and the perceivable depth makes a big difference but MH4 looks like unadulterated shit. I know this is extremely shallow, but i've played this game since 2004 obsessively and i just want to see it's graphic engine get a large boost.

DQX is largely very average as a DQ also throw in that it's an MMO. It's -extremely- accessibly though but it runs out of steam quickly and i can't see any reason to pick it up if you have another means to play any of the number of better MMOs.

Obviously i wouldn't bet about DQ11 being on 3DS , but i don't think that series is completely locked down. PS3 is also a possible for DQ11.

Mobile social cardgames for cellphones and 1st p. generic western shooters. Ah, good times.

Mobile is -the- massive growth area in Japan (Well, pretty much everywhere, but here mobile is insane). Puzzle & Dragon is the new king.

[shmuppyLove]

Hey BRO those awesome $300 Turtle Beach Special BLOPS Edition headphones you bought for your marathon Calladoody sessions?

SHIT'S NOT GOING TO WORK ON XBONE for realz

But hey it's cool, Turtle Beach and Microsoft are excited to sell you a new one

[Udderdude]

Turtle Beach is such a dumb sounding name.

[Skykid]

I can't see a Wii U recovery any time soon, although the 3DS did go from Iwata publicly shaming himself with a massive pay cut to being supremely successful. The thing is that Wii U controller seems clunky and unwieldy even if it's not. I get shades of the Virtual Boy just thinking about it.