shmups.system11.org

Shmups Forum
 
* FAQ    * Search
 * Register  * Login 
It is currently Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:58 am View unanswered posts
View active topics



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 88 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:27 am 


User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2011
Posts: 481
Location: Portugal
Has anyone seen this yet?

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?42388-Dreamcast-VGA-box-amp-Scanline-generator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XiCsiZFs6DE


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:54 am 


User avatar

Joined: 06 Mar 2006
Posts: 11889
Location: Germany
I recently ordered one.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:39 am 



Joined: 04 Feb 2013
Posts: 46
LOL Fudoh,

Your THE Man !


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:16 pm 



Joined: 12 May 2012
Posts: 90
Location: France
I bought a scanliner from him, only 30dollars shipped, he was selling them at 25dollars shipped until he stoped to make them.

Image

Very good product, i will buy from him an HANZO very soon.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:43 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2011
Posts: 481
Location: Portugal
Fudoh let us know your feedback when you receive it and have the time to test it.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:52 pm 



Joined: 12 May 2012
Posts: 90
Location: France
Overkill wrote:
Fudoh let us know your feedback when you receive it and have the time to test it.


Well for the DC, VGA is VGA, i have 2 different VGA Boxes and one VGA cable, i cant find any difference between them.

The con of HANZO is that you cant use it as a scanliner only, i mean like a passthrough but its the ultimage VGA Box : Scanliner/Switch 15kHz/31kHz.

A must have for DC fan.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:52 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 681
Location: Poland
justice99 wrote:
I bought a scanliner from him, only 30dollars shipped, he was selling them at 25dollars shipped until he stoped to make them.

Image

Very good product, i will buy from him an HANZO very soon.


i assume those three switches are scanlines on/off, scanline width and even/odd scanlines?


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:46 am 



Joined: 12 May 2012
Posts: 90
Location: France
matrigs wrote:
justice99 wrote:

i assume those three switches are scanlines on/off, scanline width and even/odd scanlines?


Sir YES Sir !


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:47 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Location: Chicago, IL, US
Just received my Hanzo v2:

Image


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:11 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2011
Posts: 481
Location: Portugal
How is working so far?


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:43 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Location: Chicago, IL, US
I just got done testing it on a few different displays. Everything works as expected. Here are some unsorted thoughts...

  • It's a really slick piece of hardware. Excellent craftsmanship and quite easy on the eyes.
  • I was hoping to connect my DC to my Sony PVM20L5 using Hanzo's RGB switch and a DB15-4BNC adapter, but I've been unable to get it to sync. I'm pretty sure this is the fault of my cabling. My guess is some sort of sync-on-green business. I plan to look into this further when I have more time.
  • This is probably obvious, but scanlines do wonders - 2D DC games (especially those with low res assets) look awesome on an LCD
  • This is the nicest VGA box currently on the market


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:34 pm 



Joined: 12 May 2012
Posts: 90
Location: France
I recently bought from him an Hanzo with the new model of the scanliner, it uses the same PCB.

The Hanzo looks so clean, really impressive.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:19 pm 



Joined: 15 May 2012
Posts: 194
For the DC, you need a sync combiner...which, for the 20L5 could be as simple as a bnc t-connector.

-Jim



gabe wrote:
I just got done testing it on a few different displays. Everything works as expected. Here are some unsorted thoughts...

  • It's a really slick piece of hardware. Excellent craftsmanship and quite easy on the eyes.
  • I was hoping to connect my DC to my Sony PVM20L5 using Hanzo's RGB switch and a DB15-4BNC adapter, but I've been unable to get it to sync. I'm pretty sure this is the fault of my cabling. My guess is some sort of sync-on-green business. I plan to look into this further when I have more time.
  • This is probably obvious, but scanlines do wonders - 2D DC games (especially those with low res assets) look awesome on an LCD
  • This is the nicest VGA box currently on the market


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:16 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Location: Chicago, IL, US
jdubs wrote:
For the DC, you need a sync combiner...which, for the 20L5 could be as simple as a bnc t-connector.

-Jim

Awesome - Thanks!


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:07 pm 



Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 253
Thanks for the compliments...

A sync combiner addon for Hanzo and Kuro is on the way, I am currently working on it. Soon to be tested and released, stay in touch!


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:18 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2012
Posts: 624
Location: Sweden
Will there be a version with RGB or S-video out as well for those games that don't support VGA? :o
_________________
CHECKPOINT!


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:21 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 06 Mar 2006
Posts: 11889
Location: Germany
You got a 15/31khz switch, so you basically already get RGB.

But then again, if you don't have VGA, just use a $5 RGB cable for your DC.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:57 pm 



Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 253
Yeah, It can output both 15 khz RGB mode & 31khz VGA mode.
I will also build a scart addon for them, however I am not sure if all TVs can accept comp. sync (h+v sync combined), I will test it
For American customers, I will build RGBHV to BNC RGBS cables too.

For games not supporting VGA, the switch tricks the system first by booting in RGB mode and then to VGA.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:33 pm 



Joined: 22 May 2012
Posts: 1164
Location: Ontario, Canada
beharius wrote:
I will also build a scart addon for them, however I am not sure if all TVs can accept comp. sync (h+v sync combined)

Just put a big fat orange sticker with a warning on the male Euro-SCART connector to only use the cable on inputs that support both 15kHz AND 31kHz RGBS. A lot of XRGB-mini owners would want that cable as they are already using SCART switches to support multiple retro-consoles and use an Euro-SCART to MiniDIN-8 adapter to connect to the XRGB-Mini (which supports 31kHz on its RGBS input).

beharius wrote:
For American customers, I will build RGBHV to BNC RGBS cables too.


You may want to find out if there is actual demand for that configuration. It is my impression that 15 kHz RGB never went "mainstream" with consumer electronics in North America. Extron RGB interfaces which can output RGBS on (female) BNC seem to have mostly been used in institutional settings on displays in lecture halls and meeting rooms. So when there is any 15 kHz RGB support to begin with, there typically isn't a real "standard" for the connector used. For example, in a recent discussion I discovered that the DVDO iScan VP30 supports 31kHz RGBHV on the BNC inputs while 15 kHz RGBS support is piggybacked on the RCA connectors for component video :roll:. So unless you want to offer custom cables, NA customers may just have to replace the SCART connector themselves with the connectors they need.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:10 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 01 Feb 2005
Posts: 4413
beharius wrote:
For games not supporting VGA, the switch tricks the system first by booting in RGB mode and then to VGA.


Can you provide some more information on this switch? For games that don't natively output 480p, is the signal 480i or 240p (before being converted to 480p)? A more concrete example would be: how do Super Street Fighter II X and Vampire Chronicle for Matching Service appear on the Hanzo? When you force a 240p display, they normally only show the top-left corner of the picture.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:19 am 



Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 253
This trick may not be compatible with all games. Some games are patched for VGA mode.
You can read this faq
http://www.gamefaqs.com/dreamcast/91641 ... /faqs/2674
Or the Hanzo Manual for more info:
http://anten.com.tr/content_files/banne ... manual.pdf

Boot it in RGB 15KHZ mode until you hear a beeping sound, then change the switch to VGA 31khz mode.

Actually Capcom games look crappy, edgy, pixelated (whatever you prefer to call) on a hi res VGA monitor, because of their low res graphics , but when you apply the Scanliner function, they look awesome!
"I wasn't playing these games for years, Dreamcast was never my system of choice for playing those fighting games until I discovered scanlines. I was missing the old days with my Sony CRT. Now I can’t stop playing them on my Panasonic plasma monitor."

I tried a backup copy of SSF2X, and it's perfect on the VGA mode with scanlines, it may be a patched one.
I haven't tried the Vampire Chronicles, but I know some games may not work on the VGA mode, but playing it in 15khz RGB still better than the official scart cable or other types of cables.



Ganelon wrote:
beharius wrote:
For games not supporting VGA, the switch tricks the system first by booting in RGB mode and then to VGA.


Can you provide some more information on this switch? For games that don't natively output 480p, is the signal 480i or 240p (before being converted to 480p)? A more concrete example would be: how do Super Street Fighter II X and Vampire Chronicle for Matching Service appear on the Hanzo? When you force a 240p display, they normally only show the top-left corner of the picture.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:13 am 



Joined: 15 May 2012
Posts: 194
gabe wrote:
jdubs wrote:
For the DC, you need a sync combiner...which, for the 20L5 could be as simple as a bnc t-connector.

-Jim

Awesome - Thanks!


Any luck?

-Jim


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:19 pm 



Joined: 15 May 2012
Posts: 194
A note for folks with a 20L5. A t-connector does NOT work with all sources. For instance, a 360....Got mine working with an Extron ss 200.

-Jim


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:18 pm 



Joined: 12 May 2013
Posts: 428
Wasn't sure where I should post this but, this seemed like the most logical place so here goes.

Beharius, I'd like to buy a Hanzo but I haven't been able to sign up at Assembler, could I order one through you here instead?


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:01 am 



Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 253
Yes, you can, PMed. Thanks for your interest!


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:37 pm 



Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 253
GREAT NEWS:

I tested Scanliner's cable with Hanzo and it works perfectly. So every Hanzo can be used as a standalone Scanliner for other consoles by just changing its DC cable to a Scanliner one(male VGA).
By just purchasing a Hanzo and an extra cable you own 2 devices at once! Only disadvantage is you have to remove its shell every time you want to change its cable.

Extra SCANLINER cable is $5 if you purchase it with Hanzo...


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:52 pm 



Joined: 07 Aug 2013
Posts: 1
beharius wrote:
Yes, you can, PMed. Thanks for your interest!

Beharius, I'd very much like to order one from you through here too, if that's cool. :D Can you PM me with ordering details? Thanks!


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:00 pm 



Joined: 12 May 2013
Posts: 428
I got mine in the mail today, much sooner than expected!

Image


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:08 pm 


User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2008
Posts: 514
Location: Chicago, IL, US
jdubs wrote:
A note for folks with a 20L5. A t-connector does NOT work with all sources. For instance, a 360....Got mine working with an Extron ss 200.

-Jim

I finally got around to testing a T-connector with my 20L5 and Hanzo... I couldn't get it to sync. To be fair it may be a problem with my setup.

I tried several different variations, but came closest to a usable picture with sync and green T'd into the green input with external sync disabled on the 20L5, and the Hanzo set to RGB.


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: HANZO - The Ultimate Dreamcast VGA BOX wuth Scanlines
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:22 pm 



Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 253
Special Edition....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48137857@N06/9565679914/


Top
 Offline Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 88 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Gara, Google [Bot], Konsolkongen, plasticxo, SamIAm and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Space Pilot 3K template by Jakob Persson
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group