The PS Vita Thread - Remote Play for all PS4 Games

[Friendly]

Picked up Oboromuramasa this morning - i've switched back to cart purchases so i can at least sell them off after i'm done.

Looks glorious - but only did the first bit.

Tempted by the Curry based Dungeon Crawler as well - but hey... too many games on the Vita. Still terminally addicted to Pro Spirits Baseball 2013 as well so should hold fire.

I myself have spent way too much time with Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden on Vita. Strange thing is, I don't even like JRPGs.

[Friendly]

And another Vita anouncement:

[trap15]

Oh boy another indie game that doesn't understand what pixels are!

[O. Van Bruce]

Oh boy another indie game that doesn't understand what pixels are!

the game is awesome though... It's like a dungeon crawler with platforms...

[Drum]

No getting around that it's a dog though. I don't know why trap15 decided to turn that into a general dig at indies though - so much great pixel art coming from them, with Terraria widely considered a hideous sprite-plagiarising mess. Worthless comment.

[Friendly]

Is it really a dog? There's lots of positive feedback. Then again, many people also think Peggle is a good "game".

[Drum]

I mean to look at. We're talking about graphics. I've never played it and so can't judge the gameplay.
I think Peggle is pretty fun though.

[Friendly]

Misunderstanding, I thought you meant the way it plays. The graphics look amateurish.

[Jonathan Ingram]

Terraria is a stupendous game. It`s less than 30 megs in size, but the amount of content that`s been crammed into this little gem is astounding. I`ve had the PC version for a while, but I`ve started playing it seriously only recently. Been meaning to download the PSN version for the console exclusive content after I`m done with the PC one and then I learnt about this oddity: the PS3 version is getting a retail release in Japan courtesy of Spike Chunsoft whose president is apparently a huge fan of the game. Import get!

[dcharlieJP]

I myself have spent way too much time with Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden on Vita. Strange thing is, I don't even like JRPGs.

I tend to collect Jrpgs for the inter-gen lul - but this last gen or two I played through a few. I played a fair chunk of P3 and P4 on the ps2, but stopped both at around 20 hours. But yeah, P3P - whilst a bit cut back from the Ps2 version - is a great fit for the handheld and I think my game clock was around 120hrs when I finished up the last bits. P4 The Golden on Vita is stunningly good - I'm taking it slowly as finishing P3P left a bit of a void.

But yeah - I have a load of vita owning friends who wouldn't give a Jrpg that looks like P4 a second look, but almost everyone is playing it and loving it

That said - I'm massively overstocked on Vita - Pso2 alone could consume all my gaming time

[boagman]

I myself have spent way too much time with Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden on Vita. Strange thing is, I don't even like JRPGs.

I tend to collect Jrpgs for the inter-gen lul - but this last gen or two I played through a few. I played a fair chunk of P3 and P4 on the ps2, but stopped both at around 20 hours. But yeah, P3P - whilst a bit cut back from the Ps2 version - is a great fit for the handheld and I think my game clock was around 120hrs when I finished up the last bits. P4 The Golden on Vita is stunningly good - I'm taking it slowly as finishing P3P left a bit of a void.

But yeah - I have a load of vita owning friends who wouldn't give a Jrpg that looks like P4 a second look, but almost everyone is playing it and loving it

That said - I'm massively overstocked on Vita - Pso2 alone could consume all my gaming time

Okay, this being said, answer me this, honestly, and with a straight face: if you're positively anti-RPG (of any type) like I am, what are the really solid reasons to invest in the Vita, games-wise?

[dcharlieJP]

Okay, this being said, answer me this, honestly, and with a straight face: if you're positively anti-RPG (of any type) like I am, what are the really solid reasons to invest in the Vita, games-wise?

Well, my personal enjoyment of the vita is mostly to do with circumstances - for the record I am equally as big a fan of the 3ds - I have less time at home (family) so I spend most my time gaming whilst out and about these days. So off the bat the Vita is going to appeal to me a bit more than most and I appreciate that's not a + point for many others. The machine is a nice piece of kit and the OS - whilst ugly- is fast and responsive and a joy to use. Also - as an extra for me personally (and not limited to Vita) I am signed up for PSM and I can run my PSM code on the Vita - which is a nice extra.

The line up is riddled with ports - which again is either a plus/minus depending on how you view them. Personally, as a huge fan of Wipeout, the fact I can play Wipeout 2048/HD/fury on the go sold me on the system on its own. Then there's the sports games ports - Fifa , whilst 12 was lazy, is great if lesser than the home version - same for MLB the show, but PRo spirits is feature for feature identical and -utterly brilliant- (GOTY levels). Power Smash 4 (improves on home versions - 60fps - glorious),
Virtues last reward is a worthy follow up to 999. Ass Creed gets its own game - chugs a bit but 10/10 for effort, fighter wise we have very good versions of DOA5, sfxtekken, Etc etc , EdF2017 port that is as good as it ever was, jet set radio is there etc , metal gear , NSF:mw <-- I'll come back to the lists later ! Ultimately whether these are of any interest will come down to having played them before , desire to play them fresh if you didn't (and on the go) or play them again portably if you did. On their own they are obviously not enough for most.

Exclusive wise it is a mixed bag - I've personally failed to enjoy LBP twice on then PS3 but the Vita game is -very- good indeed. Soul Sacrifice is fantastic, PSO2 (ok, linking with PC version) is very good, DJMAX Technika Tune is as good a music game as you can get (hard, and the music is very Korean of course), Super stardust delta, Power Smash 4 (improves on home versions - 60fps - glorious),
Then there's the good/lowe tier stuff that , for me, is still worth it : Mahjong Fight Club, Muramasa, malicious rebirth, Sine Mora (ok, not the greatest shmup but a good price and mostly 60fps), Project Diva F (it's a decent game once over the ugh), Assault Gunner (decent mech action), gundam seed battle, Sound Shapes (ok - didnt end up being exclusive - mixed, but everyone should see the Beck level "Cities"),

The disappointments are Ridge (in truth a lot better with the extra download content but came off the back of 60 hours of Ridge 3DS) , Ragnorok Odyssey (just too dull), Mingol 6 (later course are absolutely stupidly hard in terms of design - it's good until that choke point), Super Monkeyball (what has happened to this series?! ), Lets try bass fishing (too shallow), @field (good idea badly executed), assault armies (dull), CoD - you know, it's not as bad as people make out - it reminds me of a shmup : lots of short replay able segments where the aim is to get faster/better scores. However - it's still too lightweight for e hefty price tag, Resistance - ugh, also a bit duff <--- will update later

So I guess, for me, it's a combination of it matching my personal circumstance regarding free time and an overall solid list of games - and personally i see it as a luxury item that simply doesnt have the big hitting exclusives it needs to pull everyone in. price cut in japan has done wonders - needs to roll out globally. Combined in that I can put my ps1/PSP/emu stuff on there is a bonus - but in truth a CFW PSP is better in that regard - simply because the HEN solutions on Vita are constantly plugged.

Bit of a ramble - will tidy it up later.

[Friendly]

The PSV port of Muramasa was released in Japan last week, and it outsold the newly launched Wii U port of Dragon Quest 10.

[Drum]

It also did better than lifetime sales of the Wii version. This makes me extremely optimistic about what the Ouya port can do.

[dcharlieJP]

so Jeff Minter is bringing a new Tempest game to the Vita.

http://thevitalounge.com/legendary-game ... ita-title/

We’re going to base it on the essence of the original T2K. It’ll be the pure, straightforward shooter that maybe you hoped for when you first saw Space Giraffe. We’re not going to overload you with ultra psychedelia, but we will make it fluid and colourful and awesome-looking on the Vita’s delicious, vibrant OLED screen. We’re going to give you a perfect treat for your eyes, ears and thumbs with a modern extrapolation of one of the best shooters ever made on hardware that’s just perfectly suited for it, and in a way that retains the purity of the original design.

It’s going to be *awesome* .

I can't wait to ride the streaky bacon again.

[Friendly]

That's great news. I wish he'd include a port of Tempest 3000 (which was only available on the totally obscure and quickly abandoned Nuon DVD player system).

[Marc]

Wouldn't stress too much, it was supposed to be dogshit. There was a review on the old WoS site, slating it but explaining exactly why. Now 2000... I'd sell my soul for a way of playing that again.

[Skykid]

So some actual Vita news. I was in Hong Kong for a week and considered grabbing a Vita, but according to the sellers in Wan Chai's electronics mall, there's another price drop happening in Japan in the next two months. They told me it's worth waiting, should save another £20. None of the mainstream press seems to have wind of it however, but they seemed pretty sure - many of them have stopped restocking Vitas and are sold out, because the second (third? Can't remember) price drop is imminent.

Anyway, good news for those holding off. Should be looking at about £120 for a Japanese unit in the coming months.

[Friendly]

Sounds dubious. Vita got its first price cut in Japan merely 8 weeks ago.
I also heard that Sony is making a small profit off each Vita sold at the current price. So unless they found a way to reduce production costs, why would they lower the price again so soon?

[ZellSF]

I can't really decide at times if to play PSP games on my Vita or PSP.

Vita has a much larger screen, much better motion resolution, much better colors and much better black levels.

PSP is native resolution so no scaling (godly scaling on the Vita though). It's not emulation so it doesn't have the slight input/audio latency the Vita has and the screen seems much brighter (CFW so like twice as bright as a normal PSP 3000).

Of course for all games one aspect is more important than all others, and that's controls, for games with complicated control schemes then I of course instantly go for the Vita. Which brings me to my point: Everyone should get ProQuake and see how fun FPS games can be on a Vita. Doesn't work on Ark for whatever reason.

Oh, there's a rumored Vita revision at the 20th PlayStation Meeting, with HDMI out and 4G support. Yeah I wouldn't put much stock into it either. I think the meeting will entirely be about the PS4.

play it on the Vita
Hell, the Vita's screen is exactly 2x that of the PSP, so the scaling is perfect. And it's such a better screen and the controls are better. Even if I don't like the Vita's sticks as much as the 3DS circle pad [although I do wish the 3DS had 2 of them built-in, haha], they're 100x better than the PSP stick/nub.

This is the biggest reason I want a Vita -- better controls and screen for PSP games. I probably won't buy one anytime soon though, because I still haven't gotten myself a PS3 yet [and I will certainly get one of those before a Vita]...

Quoting old posts just to say I've ended up preferring to play games on my PSP. Other than the stuff I mentioned there's some things I dislike about Vita colors (white levels being rather yellow for example).

Of course that means I can confidently upgrade to the latest OFW and subscribe to PS+. I hate subscription services so I sort of had to force myself to see the value in PS+, being both a PS3 owner and a Vita owner it was stupid of me not to get it before. It's just incredible value. Demon's Souls, Gravity Rush, LittleBigPlanet 2, Malicious, Mega Man 9 & 10, Vanquish, Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Wipeout 2048 for 50$? That's better than the 50$ I spent on Fire Emblem

And in the month of May, PS+ subscribers are getting Pinball Arcade for free, so that saved me some money. Still really need a larger memory card to hold all these games, but still holding out for a price drop or larger cards (at which point my 8 GB will be my JP region card if I ever need it). I'll at least wait until after E3. On the subject of memory cards, changing them no longer messes up your home screen layouts. Changing accounts still does however, but at least owning multiple memory cards is slightly more convenient now. Still lots of things Sony should fix though.

Got Guacamelee! too while I was spending money anyway. Haven't gotten far. Really detest the art style, music and the constant meme references, but the actual core game seems interesting enough that it might still be fun. Warning to anyone who wants to get it on the Vita: this will really show off your OLED mura levels.

[Skykid]

Sounds dubious. Vita got its first price cut in Japan merely 8 weeks ago.
I also heard that Sony is making a small profit off each Vita sold at the current price. So unless they found a way to reduce production costs, why would they lower the price again so soon?

Your guess is as good as mine, but this was firsthand info from the guys on the front line for trading. Many of the stores were completely out because they had decided not to restock until the next drop. Sounded amazing to me also, but either their intel is wrong (which would be strange considering the conviction - he told me in no uncertain terms not to buy) or the recent drop just hasn't done enough for sales and Sony are getting desperate. We'll just have to wait a couple of months to see what transpires.

[Cuilan]

Picked up Soul Sacrifice. It's pretty good so far. I never got around to trying the demo due to memory card space issues (still stuck with a 4gb), so I went in fresh. Fun combat and interesting mechanics. Haven't played co-op yet.

Your guess is as good as mine, but this was firsthand info from the guys on the front line for trading. Many of the stores were completely out because they had decided not to restock until the next drop. Sounded amazing to me also, but either their intel is wrong (which would be strange considering the conviction - he told me in no uncertain terms not to buy) or the recent drop just hasn't done enough for sales and Sony are getting desperate. We'll just have to wait a couple of months to see what transpires.

I think it's far more likely that they were referring to a price-drop for every country outside of Japan. Japan is the only country that's gotten a Vita price-drop so far, so it makes sense that they'd finally drop the price everywhere else. I wouldn't be surprised if they announced it at E3.

[Skykid]

Your guess is as good as mine, but this was firsthand info from the guys on the front line for trading. Many of the stores were completely out because they had decided not to restock until the next drop. Sounded amazing to me also, but either their intel is wrong (which would be strange considering the conviction - he told me in no uncertain terms not to buy) or the recent drop just hasn't done enough for sales and Sony are getting desperate. We'll just have to wait a couple of months to see what transpires.

I think it's far more likely that they were referring to a price-drop for every country outside of Japan. Japan is the only country that's gotten a Vita price-drop so far, so it makes sense that they'd finally drop the price everywhere else. I wouldn't be surprised if they announced it at E3.

I suppose that could have been what he meant, but what do Vitas sell for outside of Japan? The HK guys were selling the Wifi version for £140, and suggested it would fall to £120.

[Cuilan]

I suppose that could have been what he meant, but what do Vitas sell for outside of Japan? The HK guys were selling the Wifi version for £140, and suggested it would fall to £120.

In the US, MSRP for the Wifi model is $250 (sans tax). It's not too hard to find it cheaper than that though.

[Skykid]

I suppose that could have been what he meant, but what do Vitas sell for outside of Japan? The HK guys were selling the Wifi version for £140, and suggested it would fall to £120.

In the US, MSRP for the Wifi model is $250 (sans tax). It's not too hard to find it cheaper than that though.

Hmm, the Hong Kong retail price is quite a bargain then (reflecting the JP RRP, or cheaper?). I wanted to get a white one, which depending on who you go to is being charged around £10 higher. I expect to be back in Hong Kong 3 months from now, so I'll probably get one then, and hopefully this price reduction will have materialised by then.

Seriously, it's one cheap handheld considering the build quality. I almost feel sorry for Sony, I think the machine deserves better, but then I remember how many times they keep fucking up their marketing and general strategy and it gets harder to sympathise.

[Friendly]

I just bought another PS Vita, second hand. Cost me about ~150 USD and looks like new (the previous owner was smart enough to use a screen protector). Reason being: I didn't want to give up my eCFW, but I also want to play new releases (which require a firmware upgrade).

[ZellSF]

I just bought another PS Vita, second hand. Cost me about ~150 USD and looks like new (the previous owner was smart enough to use a screen protector). Reason being: I didn't want to give up my eCFW, but I also want to play new releases (which require a firmware upgrade).

Look forward to accessing the PS Store again, it's more sluggish than ever.

While I know it will inevitably happen, my Vita has no screen scratches yet, it's definitely made of a better material than my PSPs.

[Friendly]

my Vita has no screen scratches yet, it's definitely made of a better material than my PSPs.

Yeah, definitely. It's certainly high quality in every regard; if it was any other electronic device of similar quality (eg a smart phone), it would probably be sold for $300+.


BTW, I've also just started playing Gravity Rush, and I think it's not bad at all. I wonder if maybe the people who dislike it don't have a good spatial sense (without which it probably can be confusing at times).

[Friendly]

Muramasa PSV sales have reached 100,000 units in Japan last week (was released 1 month ago). That's pretty amazing; I hope other developers/publishers take note.

[brentsg]

I had purchased Pinball Arcade for PS3/Vita a while back and recently had added all the available tables from my Vita.

This weekend I went to add the rest of these to my PS3 and it was a huge PITA. Sony really needs to take some tips from Apple in this regard. I ended up doing all these manual downloads because the app (and store) couldn't seem to figure out that I'd already paid for all these. All this jumping between the app, the store, and the main PS3 desktop (for install after download) was ridiculous.

By the time I was done it was too late to play anything. Also, how the hell can downloads take so long? These table packs are tiny and I'm on 35Mb/s internet service, yet it took some time to download each one.