DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (REGION-FREE!)
Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
It's still shit. Look at Akai Katana's artwork. That stuff is gorgeous, and that's "a comic"... Do note that these are from background pictures from the 360 port. As in, you will be seeing these deformed faces while you play unless you've tate'd your display.
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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Or turn down the wallpaper brightness to 0 (which I always do).
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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
That artist doesn't suffer from same face syndrome, some of those pics even have 2 on the same face.
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Some weird expressions in the in-game Espgaluda 2 art, but overall Masaki Hirooka is an excellent artist, and his work in Order of Ecclesia is superb. Akai Katana's artist on the other hand is quite generic and I hate his coloring. I'd much rather have Hirooka than him.
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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
O. Van Bruce wrote: that's just your opinion man. Be grateful it's not ZUNart.
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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Nice work Blackoak.
Those extra modes don't sound so bad. Also, from that interview it doesn't sound like Cave is shutting up shop anytime soon. I just hope they continue to make arcade games.
Edit: I'm no fan of espgaluda 2's artwork - the faces suck, but that cd cover is beautiful.
Those extra modes don't sound so bad. Also, from that interview it doesn't sound like Cave is shutting up shop anytime soon. I just hope they continue to make arcade games.
Edit: I'm no fan of espgaluda 2's artwork - the faces suck, but that cd cover is beautiful.
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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Damm it KAI where do you get those ideas? 

Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
NONE ARE AS BLAND AND DERIVATIVE AS THE SDOJ ART: STANDARD FAXtrap15 wrote:It's still shit. Look at Akai Katana's artwork. That stuff is gorgeous, and that's "a comic"... Do note that these are from background pictures from the 360 port. As in, you will be seeing these deformed faces while you play unless you've tate'd your display.
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Skykid wrote:NONE ARE AS BLAND AND DERIVATIVE AS THE SDOJ ART: STANDARD FAXtrap15 wrote:It's still shit. Look at Akai Katana's artwork. That stuff is gorgeous, and that's "a comic"... Do note that these are from background pictures from the 360 port. As in, you will be seeing these deformed faces while you play unless you've tate'd your display.
I cannot agree more. The art is technically perfect but it has a huge lack of personality. I'd even have prefered Esp 2 art over these.
Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Cave should make a game where they use Kawayoo as a character artist.
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I'm ok with thisptoing wrote:Cave should make a game where they use Kawayoo as a character artist.

Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Totally. Or someone like Naoki Saito or JNTHED. They would make much more interesting designs I am sure.
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Range Murata is an oldie but a goodie, can't go wrong with Akiman (esp with his new style switch up for Shien the Wandered NDS), and Hiroaki Samura needs more VG tie-ins - would be epic.
Tony Taka did some beautiful stuff for the Shining Wind games, but I realise it would be all tits, ass and pussy if he was on board (at least his girls got curves though.)
Sadly I assume Cave either can't afford or are too cheap to hire any decent artists currently. They figure Zun draws total shit and gets away with it, so they can do the same.
Tony Taka did some beautiful stuff for the Shining Wind games, but I realise it would be all tits, ass and pussy if he was on board (at least his girls got curves though.)
Sadly I assume Cave either can't afford or are too cheap to hire any decent artists currently. They figure Zun draws total shit and gets away with it, so they can do the same.
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I want a guro-shmup (Guwange 2?) with Samura's artwork. Is that too much to ask?

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I'd pay good money for that.KAI wrote:I want a guro-shmup (Guwange 2?) with Samura's artwork. Is that too much to ask?
I think he'd have to tone it down slightly from Hitodenashi no Koi though. That misogyny/war crime vibe might be pushing it a little for a mainstream shmup.
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I'm only playing Guwange 2 if it has this guy as an enemy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShirimeKAI wrote:I want a guro-shmup (Guwange 2?) with Samura's artwork. Is that too much to ask?
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Hahahahaha WTFUdderdude wrote:I'm only playing Guwange 2 if it has this guy as an enemy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShirimeKAI wrote:I want a guro-shmup (Guwange 2?) with Samura's artwork. Is that too much to ask?

And that picture is awesome, KAI!
Great job on the translation, Blackcloak! Really good translation as always

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That dude must suffer from the worst conjunctivitis... >_>

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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
I like this sentence a lot.asada wrote:I think this will be our last game for the current hardware generation, but in various ways Saidaioujou has been prepared as the gateway to our next move.

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I'd love for Cave to team up with Yasushi Suzuki at some point and produce something stoic in the vein of Ikaruga or Sin & Punishment. Not to mention that due to his angular art style, I feel that Suzuki's stuff actually translates really well to polys (even low poly models of his stuff manage to retain the feeling of his art) if Cave felt inclined to try 3D again (although, perhaps they should talk to G.Rev about doing the modeling).
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ZUNart shits all over every drawing principles but at least his work doesn't have the derivative look at all and the characters are usually well-dressed. I'd take that over SDOJ art any day.O. Van Bruce wrote:that's just your opinion man. Be grateful it's not ZUNart.
Tony Taka is bad. He got some good grasp on anatomy but his faces and coloring are horrid. Just shove the SDOJ art into Photoshop, hit Desaturate and you've got Tony Taka.Skykid wrote:Tony Taka did some beautiful stuff for the Shining Wind games, but I realise it would be all tits, ass and pussy if he was on board (at least his girls got curves though.)
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Tony Taka's alright. I wouldn't say his faces are horrid, but all of them have the same face. I don't really mind his coloring.
He also did work on an STG, Valhellio. And indeed, it was all tits and ass.
He also did work on an STG, Valhellio. And indeed, it was all tits and ass.
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<S.Yagawa> I like the challenge of "doing the impossible" with older hardware, and pushing it as far as it can go.
<S.Yagawa> I like the challenge of "doing the impossible" with older hardware, and pushing it as far as it can go.
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Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Yeah, that's pretty much my complaint. My reaction to the first Tony pic was "that looks nice", but after the 7th time it became "lol what the fuck they're all the same". For the coloring I think it can benefit from a little more saturation.
RegalSin wrote:Then again sex is no diffrent then sticking a stick down some hole to make a female womenly or girl scream or make noise.
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Formless God wrote: Tony Taka is bad. He got some good grasp on anatomy but his faces and coloring are horrid. Just shove the SDOJ art into Photoshop, hit Desaturate and you've got Tony Taka.[\b]
Exaggeration ever. He's a far more accomplished artist than the SDOJ stuff, and saying "he got some good grasp on anatomy" is like saying Salma Hayek has an 'okayish' figure. There is same face syndrome there (Range Murata and shinkirou suffered the same problem), but considering we're facing an entire industry of derivative imagery, at least Taka has solid artistic principles backing up his gang of seductive heathens.
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Care to list some of these solid artistic principles?
Calling his vixens "seductive" is utter hypocrisy. His sense of fashion is the same as that of Ryou Nagi. I am in no way defending the SDOJ guy as I've already made clear a while ago in this thread that I fucking hate him, but it is hilarious to irrationally favor one artist over another when they are undeniably the same shit.
Danbooru links.
Calling his vixens "seductive" is utter hypocrisy. His sense of fashion is the same as that of Ryou Nagi. I am in no way defending the SDOJ guy as I've already made clear a while ago in this thread that I fucking hate him, but it is hilarious to irrationally favor one artist over another when they are undeniably the same shit.
Danbooru links.
RegalSin wrote:Then again sex is no diffrent then sticking a stick down some hole to make a female womenly or girl scream or make noise.
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Not necessarily swaying either way, but I'd just like to point out the main differences in the art style, which may or may not explain Skykid's view:
* Nagi's is a lot more 'angular', whereas Taka's is more 'curved'.
* Nagi's has a very 'hard' shading, whereas Taka's is more 'gentle'.
These are really just two parts of the same difference in style (hard vs. soft), but they're the most obvious, and are probably why one would choose between the two.
However, they are both quite 'recycled' in the sense that they look very much the same conceptually.
Also, Nagi is a girl
* Nagi's is a lot more 'angular', whereas Taka's is more 'curved'.
* Nagi's has a very 'hard' shading, whereas Taka's is more 'gentle'.
These are really just two parts of the same difference in style (hard vs. soft), but they're the most obvious, and are probably why one would choose between the two.
However, they are both quite 'recycled' in the sense that they look very much the same conceptually.
Also, Nagi is a girl

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<S.Yagawa> I like the challenge of "doing the impossible" with older hardware, and pushing it as far as it can go.
<S.Yagawa> I like the challenge of "doing the impossible" with older hardware, and pushing it as far as it can go.
Re: DoDonPachi Saidaioujou coming to Xbox 360 (Spring 2013)
Look, he's not my favourite artist, but your linked pictures are utterly terrible: I don't like them either. I'll either assume you handpicked them for their blandness to try and cement your point, or simply haven't seen enough of the work. Solid artistic principles of anatomy and clothing, which constitutes 90% of the images, and generally excellent draftsmanship. I like the less strong colour saturation personally, and the casting is very good. I'm not going to trawl through images for you, because it's off topic, mostly full of dripping vaginas and shiny nipples, and you can do the searching yourself: but here's a handful of superior safe for work images to the ones you linked. Obviously better than SDOJ.Formless God wrote:Care to list some of these solid artistic principles?
Calling his vixens "seductive" is utter hypocrisy. His sense of fashion is the same as that of Ryou Nagi. I am in no way defending the SDOJ guy as I've already made clear a while ago in this thread that I fucking hate him, but it is hilarious to irrationally favor one artist over another when they are undeniably the same shit.

http://i.imgur.com/w5V5rfz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Xz0UALll.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BM9nJ5S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NcVgNT8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sqmt7OY.jpg
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Why does this look so much better than the Saidaioujou art? Did he just stop giving a fuck and phone it in for SDOJ or what?Formless God wrote:shit.
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Not enough cash (stranger.)NzzpNzzp wrote:Why does this look so much better than the Saidaioujou art? Did he just stop giving a fuck and phone it in for SDOJ or what?Formless God wrote:shit.
Also, that linked one is equally terrible.
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