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Friendly wrote:On the bright side, that leaves us with a tiny, low energy consumption XBMC player with hdmi that can be controlled via bluetooth, for $99.
Raspberry Pi will do this for $35 8)
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shmuppyLove wrote:
Friendly wrote:On the bright side, that leaves us with a tiny, low energy consumption XBMC player with hdmi that can be controlled via bluetooth, for $99.
Raspberry Pi will do this for $35 8)
You know, you could always just install a regular Android OS on Ouya. Technically, Ouya is a relatively strong system. Had a look and Raspberry Pi seems to have much weaker specs.
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Friendly wrote:
shmuppyLove wrote:
Friendly wrote:On the bright side, that leaves us with a tiny, low energy consumption XBMC player with hdmi that can be controlled via bluetooth, for $99.
Raspberry Pi will do this for $35 8)
You know, you could always just install a regular Android OS on Ouya. Technically, Ouya is a relatively strong system. Had a look and Raspberry Pi seems to have much weaker specs.
Well, it has stronger specs, but what use do you have for them that justifies the increased price? XBMC isn't going to be any different.
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Friendly wrote:The lag issue sounds bad, but the folks at Engadget (who usually are not clueless morons like Polygon) think it's fixable by June.
What kind of idiots developing a console of all things would fail to rectify such a glaring issue before launch, let alone not have noticed how much of an issue it is by now? Absolutely mind boggling.
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They aren't even developing any first party games. I'm willing to bet half of them are clueless.
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so has this device murdered anyone yet
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Udderdude wrote:They aren't even developing any first party games. I'm willing to bet half of them are clueless.
If the thing cost fifty bux and they were supporting it with content like SNK did with their niche console, why, it'd be something to take kind of srs.

Awhile back I commented on their idea of "making games" = funding someone else to make them. An incredibly insane thing to say, for any enthusiast of games or businessman keen on making a product someone wants.
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I called it :roll:
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I had multiple people ask me to put my games on this thing.
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Udderdude wrote:I had multiple people ask me to put my games on this thing.
A turn-based game that isn't affected by the input lag'd be one thing, but I'd hate playing XOP with input lag... might as well just play it on the PC. Can you imagine releasing a shmup and then getting reviews like "game sux, input lag" with you taking the blame instead of the console itself? -_-

It'd probably be worthwhile releasing a game just to get your name out there though, your other games would get more recognition then.
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Udderdude wrote:I had multiple people ask me to put my games on this thing.
I know ADM were gearing to release Blade Dash on it too, but they'll refuse unless the lag is rectified because scoring will become impossible at the high end, you need near instant response or there's no way of not getting ripped off at top speeds.
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There is so much wrong with the current video game industry that Ouya was worth a shot in my opinion.
If it doesn't work out, at least the backers get a nice piece of hardware- some people thought it would never even see the light of day.

By the way, their game distribution system requires you to have a credit/debit card on file with them even if you just want to download demos; not a fan of that.
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Friendly wrote:By the way, their game distribution system requires you to have a credit/debit card on file with them even if you just want to download demos; not a fan of that.
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I tried getting back the feels by looking at the current SA thread on this, but the care cat is pretty dead by now. "Gieb credit card to demo", "controller barely works" doesn't even break a smile. Not even "CEO discovered to be molester" would raise an eyebrow at this point.

Just give me one example of it burning down someone's house and I can put all this behind me.
There is so much wrong with the current video game industry that Ouya was worth a shot in my opinion.
You don't need some messiah figure to come out of the sky and "save" gaming. There's always been a glut of crap, like in everything else.

But slivers of potential still exist.

Like a crazy cat lady simulator. Or platformers with irresponsibly good music.
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BryanM wrote:I tried getting back the feels by looking at the current SA thread on this, but the care cat is pretty dead by now. "Gieb credit card to demo", "controller barely works" doesn't even break a smile. Not even "CEO discovered to be molester" would raise an eyebrow at this point.
The TIGsource thread isn't too optimistic either.
BryanM wrote:But slivers of potential still exist.

Like a crazy cat lady simulator. Or platformers with irresponsibly good music.
I wouldn't call a gimmicky b/w cat management simulator and a platformer with less content and material than the ones I played on the NES as a kid "potential".

(Also Team Meat's website is unreadable with all that white text on bright red background)
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Udderdude wrote:a platformer with less content and material than the ones I played on the NES as a kid "potential".
Wat. It's bigger than Mega Man 2.

The ladder of expectations is absurd. You can't make a "better" action movie than Terminator 2. The five point scale only has five points. Again, expecting something "completely new and awesome" is frankly crazy talk. Nothing will ever feel like what it felt like shedding the 2600 and NES, ever again.
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trap15 wrote:I called it :roll:
Naaaaw, this isn't over yet man. The debate was Android OS is too laggy. Nobody said anything about adding wank-ass bluetooth to the comparison.

Somebody needs to get a stick working and plugged in dat USB port!
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DJ Incompetent wrote:Somebody needs to get a stick working and plugged in dat USB port!
Ok, the Ouya can still deliver some lulz :3
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BryanM wrote:
Udderdude wrote:a platformer with less content and material than the ones I played on the NES as a kid "potential".
Wat. It's bigger than Mega Man 2.
Alright, maybe "less" was too harsh, but it still doesn't have anything interesting that would catch my attention. Plus, the free-roaming environment doesn't interest me much since I hate backtracking and wandering around lost, searching for the next place to go, whereas a game like Megaman with level structures that aren't all connected don't have that problem. I don't know why the metroidvania structure caught on so much when pretty much all of them have those issues in some form or another.

I think there's still plenty of unexplored territory in terms of interesting mechanics and stuff you can do with platformers. I'm going to be exploring some of that in some upcoming games I'm planning on doing.
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DJ Incompetent wrote:
trap15 wrote:I called it :roll:
Naaaaw, this isn't over yet man. The debate was Android OS is too laggy. Nobody said anything about adding wank-ass bluetooth to the comparison.

Somebody needs to get a stick working and plugged in dat USB port!
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Udderdude wrote:Alright, maybe "less" was too harsh, but it still doesn't have anything interesting that would catch my attention. Plus, the free-roaming environment doesn't interest me much since I hate backtracking and wandering around lost, searching for the next place to go, whereas a game like Megaman with level structures that aren't all connected don't have that problem. I don't know why the metroidvania structure caught on so much when pretty much all of them have those issues in some form or another.
The levels are about as linear as they come. There are occasional forking "nexus" points, all adjacent to a teleporter that lead into the entrance of a stage, but once you're inside one, it's physically impossible to "leave" it.

The only inconvenient stage to enter in the first game is one of the super sekrit optional challenge levels, a hellhole you really don't want to visit by accident; the other one is accessed by a password.

Blaster Master has way, way more "where the fuck do I go" to it. Cave Story has more choice. Comparing it to Metroid is just false advertising.

About the extent the game is flexible, is there might be multiple solutions to a given room.
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I actually kind of liked non-linear, large open maps. Goonies II for the NES was good for that sort of thing and is one of the earlier examples (along with Metroid) that I can think of.
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BryanM wrote:Blaster Master has way, way more "where the fuck do I go" to it. Cave Story has more choice. Comparing it to Metroid is just false advertising.
I never played that one .. and using terms like that when they aren't accuracte just to attract more players is kind of bleh.

Would be nice if they had a list or count of all the abilities the player gets, it does seem a bit more interesting than at first glance. I tried out the demo, and my biggest issue so far is the first area in the game is way harder than the second one.

Edit: Got to the first boss, randomized attacks = argh.
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DJ Incompetent wrote:
trap15 wrote:I called it :roll:
Naaaaw, this isn't over yet man. The debate was Android OS is too laggy. Nobody said anything about adding wank-ass bluetooth to the comparison.

Somebody needs to get a stick working and plugged in dat USB port!
PS3/Wii uses bluetooth and both are very responsive, I doubt that's the problem.

When I say the PS3 is responsive I don't mean in the sub-30 framerate games of course.
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Udderdude wrote:Edit: Got to the first boss, randomized attacks = argh.
The pattern bosses (well, they're all pattern bosses) of the first game tended toward the brutal side. The level 3 boss, Cleo, master of the chromamancers, especially. A difficulty spike that goes off the charts. One of the most memorable NES bosses of all time. (The secret is standing closeish to her is the safest strategy.)

And there wasn't any of this "lifebar mode" poo to learn the game on.

And then you fight the serpent and the four horsemen, who are like are small children; as inferior to their predecessors as Timmy is to everything else.
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ZellSF wrote:PS3/Wii uses bluetooth and both are very responsive, I doubt that's the problem.

When I say the PS3 is responsive I don't mean in the sub-30 framerate games of course.
To be fair, it's not like Wii games don't ever dive below 30 fps either. Even at much higher framerates, I found Metroid Prime a tad laggier than Other M (the former looks more post-processed alright).
Nevertheless, games like S&P2 and Dead Space: Extraction on harder difficulties control like a charm on a CRT.
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Obiwanshinobi wrote:
ZellSF wrote:PS3/Wii uses bluetooth and both are very responsive, I doubt that's the problem.

When I say the PS3 is responsive I don't mean in the sub-30 framerate games of course.
To be fair, it's not like Wii games don't ever dive below 30 fps either. Even at much higher framerates, I found Metroid Prime a tad laggier than Other M (the former looks more post-processed alright).
Nevertheless, games like S&P2 and Dead Space: Extraction on harder difficulties control like a charm on a CRT.
The Conduit did a fair bit of pushing the Wii to its limits, going to something like 15 FPS on some moments. Quite laggy there.
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Saw a youtube vid labeled "Breast Boxing Turbo - OUYA" and was like lul wat?!?!

I was extremely disappointed to discover it actually said "Beast Boxing Turbo".

tldr: OUYA would be vastly better/worse if it had a breast-boxing game of some sort on it.
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List of games/programs commercially available right now for backers, who are about to receive their Ouyas:
Abbigale And The Monster
A Fist of Awesome
Airstrike
AmpGear
Around the Rock Disc Golf
A Space Shooter For 2 Bucks
Barley-Break
Beast Boxing Turbo
Blood
Bubblr
Bunibon 2
Canabalt
Chomper Deluxe
Combat Demonstration
Command Crisis: Callsign
ConSoul – x86 PC Emulation
Deep Dungeouns of Doom
Donut Get!
Dubwars
EMUya – NES Emulation
Escape
Escape F2P
EVAC
Farm Invasion
Final Fantasy III
Fist of Fury
Flying Car
Forsaken Planet
Gamius Type IV
Giana Sisters
God Of Blades
Grow
Guns N Glory WW2
Gunslugs
Happy Vikings
Hexicheckers
Highway Rally
Ice Rage
iMech Online
Jelly Bounce
Jsidd Code Factory
King of Booze
King of the Hill
Kinito Ninja
Knightmare Tower
Lemming Rampage 2
Lord of Portals
Maze City
Monocle Man
Mosaic
Multi Space
Mupen64Plus – N64 Emulation
Natural Soccer
One Tap Hero
Orbiter
Organ Trail
Paper Wings
Phoenix Revival
Pinball Arcade
Pingo: Puzzle Poker
Pixel Pig Deluxe
Pix n Love Rush
Polarity
Powerups That Kill
Proton Pulse
Puddle
Puzzle 2
Quizania
Radiant
Rage Runner
RED
Regular Ordinary Boy
Riding Rhodri
Saturday Morning RPG
Save the Puppies
Shuttle Rush
Skymaze 3D
Sophia’s World
Space Buggers
Space Repair Inc
Space Sokoban
Space Tech Quality Assurance
Spin Wars
Square Off
Stalagflight (Julie Uhrman’s favorite game)
Star Shipping
Striker Soccer Euro 2012
Stupid Zombies 2
Subatomic Kangaroo World Tour
Super Daddio 2
SuperGNES – SNES Emulation
Swindler
Syder Arcade
The Amazing Frog
The Ball
The Little Crane that Could
The Secret Universe of Alpha
The Vestibule
Tower Master
Twitch.tv
Vector
Wizorb
Word Shaker
Zombies & Trains
http://www.explosion.com/27047/ouya-lau ... -revealed/

There will be more in June when Ouya is officially launched.

Video of some of the games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 3eYKRg2FlI
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EVAC
Did a double-take, since that's obviously not what I'd like to believe.
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Jeneki wrote:
EVAC
Did a double-take, since that's obviously not what I'd like to believe.
All of the new Cave games exclusive for Ouya in the next gen...

You know Cave dislikes money that much.
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