Thunderforce V opinions?
Thunderforce V opinions?
How does this game compare to the other top PS1 shooters? (Einhander, G-Darius, R-Type Delta).
its on par with einhänder.. i like gdarius better (personal prefference only, im sure alot of you feel otherwise) but none of those games can compare to the genius that is R-type delta...
the destruction of everything, is the beginning of something new. your whole world is on fire, and soon, you'll be too..
I actually prefer it to all of those except G-Darius but it is at a near tie.
Thunderforce V is definetly an excellent game and the story is downright wicked - especially if you've been into TF before. You will feel the need to 1cc this game naturally.
The music is absolutley superb. The final boss theme and the ascension into space theme are rockin' like dokken. You'll remember them for ages. Of course, TF games have always had fine tunes.
Though - it is way too short. G-Darius will last you alot longer with it's multiple pathways and more complex gameplay style (capture balls and big lasers). Thunderforce is more traditional shmup than that where you pretty much just collect powerups and stuff.
Really man, get them both - it's not like it'll break the bank or anything. You should also check out Raystorm while you're at it.
Thunderforce V is definetly an excellent game and the story is downright wicked - especially if you've been into TF before. You will feel the need to 1cc this game naturally.
The music is absolutley superb. The final boss theme and the ascension into space theme are rockin' like dokken. You'll remember them for ages. Of course, TF games have always had fine tunes.
Though - it is way too short. G-Darius will last you alot longer with it's multiple pathways and more complex gameplay style (capture balls and big lasers). Thunderforce is more traditional shmup than that where you pretty much just collect powerups and stuff.
Really man, get them both - it's not like it'll break the bank or anything. You should also check out Raystorm while you're at it.
TFV is perhaps a notch below R-Type Delta, which is PS1 absolute best imho.
You owe yourself to play TFV. It's just so awesome.
Now let's wait for the usual degeneration of this thread:
"in case you don't know, PSone version SUXORZZ! Get Saturn!! There's no reason not to buy a SS these days!! Kill the infidels!"
You owe yourself to play TFV. It's just so awesome.
Now let's wait for the usual degeneration of this thread:
"in case you don't know, PSone version SUXORZZ! Get Saturn!! There's no reason not to buy a SS these days!! Kill the infidels!"
I prefer G-Darius, Gradius Gaiden, and R-Type Delta to Thunderforce V (it's been too long since I've seen Einhander...can't really compare that one). I've been trying to get into the TF series, and while I can recognize the work that went into TFV, one thing really kills me about the game: it's extremely memorization based. Moreso than TFIII and TFIV, in my opinion. While that's certainly not a flaw, it makes it frustrating for me to play. Why should I die so often because I was too close to a certain edge of the screen, or because I didn't know this miniboss was going to lunge in this direction unexpectedly?
I guess I just prefer more reflex-based/bullet dodging shooters, but if you don't mind memorization, by all means give TFV a try.
I guess I just prefer more reflex-based/bullet dodging shooters, but if you don't mind memorization, by all means give TFV a try.
You're right about the memorization thing... never thought about it as compared to 3 and 4.
I would have mentioned Gradius Gaiden but i'm assuming Pshooter has no means of playing it on an american PS1 or 2 (like me, for now)?
I'm not as in to R-Type Delta because i feel that it didn't stay true to the series roots and became more... uh... 'normal'. Like when a band gets popular and puts out nothing but crap ass cds afterwards. I await the day that a new 'real' R-Type arrives (i.e. - never). Pulstar is as close to that as i'll ever get and i suppose thats approaching 10 years old now... ?
Uh... i'm depressed now. I'll drink more. *smirk*
I would have mentioned Gradius Gaiden but i'm assuming Pshooter has no means of playing it on an american PS1 or 2 (like me, for now)?
I'm not as in to R-Type Delta because i feel that it didn't stay true to the series roots and became more... uh... 'normal'. Like when a band gets popular and puts out nothing but crap ass cds afterwards. I await the day that a new 'real' R-Type arrives (i.e. - never). Pulstar is as close to that as i'll ever get and i suppose thats approaching 10 years old now... ?
Uh... i'm depressed now. I'll drink more. *smirk*
I like Thunderforce V, I rate it a close third behind R-Type Delta and Gradius gaiden. Personally I don't like Einhander or G.Darius as much.
As for Raystorm and Raycrisis... I don't really like them much at all. They should be decent on their own but once you start trying to compare them to Rayforce/Layer Section, you find out that they simply can't hold a candle to their ancestor.
As for Raystorm and Raycrisis... I don't really like them much at all. They should be decent on their own but once you start trying to compare them to Rayforce/Layer Section, you find out that they simply can't hold a candle to their ancestor.
I think TFV is superb on both PS1 and SS.
Gradius Gaiden is my absolute favourite PS1 game, though. The selection of ships, the level design, the performance of the game engine, the graphics, the stages (refracting crystalline, gravity well)... it's 100% pure class all the way.
As for Raystorm Vs Raycrisis, I think I prefer the newer one, but I do like them both - they're both solid games.
Gradius Gaiden is my absolute favourite PS1 game, though. The selection of ships, the level design, the performance of the game engine, the graphics, the stages (refracting crystalline, gravity well)... it's 100% pure class all the way.
As for Raystorm Vs Raycrisis, I think I prefer the newer one, but I do like them both - they're both solid games.
Gradius Gaiden is good for many reasons if you're a Gradius fan. To me, it's the perfection of the Gradius formula. I think it has one of the very best game soundtracks I've ever heard (right up there with Castlevania: SotN), and I have a fairly massive collection of game CDs. It has two player simultaneous mode. It's got Lord British from the Salamander series and two additional ships, and of course, the Vic Viper too.
But the levels are the best part.
It's got the classics, like the Moais and the moving Base stage, but it's got new stuff too. The classic volcano stage seems like yet another retread until a black hole opens behind you and all the landforms start getting sucked in. The Crystal stage has walls that refract your laser weapons all over the place. Bosses taunt you ("You think you can beat me with THAT? Loser!") Little things like that make the game pure classic.
If you don't like Gradius though, Gaiden won't change your mind.
But the levels are the best part.
It's got the classics, like the Moais and the moving Base stage, but it's got new stuff too. The classic volcano stage seems like yet another retread until a black hole opens behind you and all the landforms start getting sucked in. The Crystal stage has walls that refract your laser weapons all over the place. Bosses taunt you ("You think you can beat me with THAT? Loser!") Little things like that make the game pure classic.
If you don't like Gradius though, Gaiden won't change your mind.
Most of the points have already been said by PFG 9000, so I'll just add to it.Pshooter wrote:i'm trying to narrow all the PSX shmups down to like the best five games or so. so far i'm hearing that r-type delta and g-darius are good, and einhander is good but maybe a bit over rated. i do keep hearing that gradius gaiden is many people's favorites, why is it so good?
The thing is you could hate the gradius series and still love Gradius Gaiden, it's like a break off from the series. (The vic viper and friends go on holiday).
There are four different ships to choose from, each with their own distinctive weapons, you can edit the weapon arrange system choosing what type of weapons you'd like to receive first.
The graphics don't exactly push the PSX hardware but they're good enough. Add to that brilliant gameplay, and a truly fantastic soundtrack and you've got what's generally regarded as the second best gradius game in the series.
TFV is sexyawesomegreat. Just a bit less memorization-heavy and I'd have liked it even more than TFIV--well worth the money I paid for the Saturn version, haven't played the PS1 one.
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I was hugely disappointed with TFV after reading so much praise about it for years. I got hold of both the Saturn version and the Playstation version, and I just find it to be an incredibly shoddy game - this coming from a huge fan of TFIII in particular and the series as a whole. The Saturn version in particular is very ugly and suffers from slowdown which hinders the player, and as has been mentioned it frequently becomes very difficult to make out what's going on amidst the polygonal mess.
The PS version doesn't suffer so much technically (though it seems to be attempting far less in the way of special effects), it's a little cleaner to look at but still surprisingly bad considering both host machines' other achievements.
The PS version doesn't suffer so much technically (though it seems to be attempting far less in the way of special effects), it's a little cleaner to look at but still surprisingly bad considering both host machines' other achievements.
At what point was it established that Einhander held such a high standing in the world of PSX shmups? I always thought it was overrated and was quite transparent that it was not from a hardcore shmup developer.
As far as TFV, it is OK, but I really think 3 and 4 are so much better.
As far as psx shmups--the Pachis, Gradius Gaiden, Raiden DX, Toaplan shooting battle, Zanac Neo, etc... So many great games, why does Einhander deserve so much attention?
As far as TFV, it is OK, but I really think 3 and 4 are so much better.
As far as psx shmups--the Pachis, Gradius Gaiden, Raiden DX, Toaplan shooting battle, Zanac Neo, etc... So many great games, why does Einhander deserve so much attention?
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it is the highest overall rated pdx shmup generally:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/playstation/scores/
http://www.metacritic.com/games/playstation/scores/
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I still like Gaiden better.Nei First wrote:PaCrappa wrote:What's first best then? I always thought it was Gaiden?
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Edit: I don't like how unbalanced TFV is. Gosh, half the bosses die before they even attack if you use the web weapon. If you don't have it, you're basically screwed.
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You really do like Gradius Gaiden don't ya?UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:I still like Gaiden better.Nei First wrote:PaCrappa wrote:What's first best then? I always thought it was Gaiden?
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Edit: I don't like how unbalanced TFV is. Gosh, half the bosses die before they even attack if you use the web weapon. If you don't have it, you're basically screwed.
I do love it too though man, I still think the graveyard stage is kickass!
Ah, what wonders used to do with the press the brand "Squaresoft" on a game's box...Pshooter wrote:it is the highest overall rated pdx shmup generally:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/playstation/scores/
