A 1cc attempt is approaching! ESP Ra. De. vs. Mushihimesama

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A 1cc attempt is approaching! ESP Ra. De. vs. Mushihimesama

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With 2 Cave PCBs recently acquired, I'm now determined to 1cc at least 1 of them.

Between ESP Ra. De. and Mushihimesama, which would you recommend for a 1cc attempt? Keep in mind I'm probably "average" at this point with these 2 games (can make it to stage 3/boss or stage 4/start without continuing on both games as of now).

Also, any good practice tips or tutorials would be greatly appreciated - :D
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Go for Mushi.
Maniac Mode is easier than Normal.
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ESP ra.de for me.

Although in the years I have it I can only reach the last level. Mushi I can get to level 5.
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I recommend Mushi, it's easier IMO.
KAI wrote:Maniac Mode is easier than Normal.
No it's not.
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Paradigm wrote:I recommend Mushi, it's easier IMO.
KAI wrote:Maniac Mode is easier than Normal.
No it's not.
I actually agree with KAI, mind elaborating?

I feel that the bullets moving slower are much more manageable.
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I'd like to know more about Maniac mode as well - i just assumed it was for ...maniacs :)
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moh wrote:
Paradigm wrote:I recommend Mushi, it's easier IMO.
KAI wrote:Maniac Mode is easier than Normal.
No it's not.
I actually agree with KAI, mind elaborating?

I feel that the bullets moving slower are much more manageable.
Mushi original is one of the easiest clears on the map. Even with faster bullets, there's plenty more space.

It's way easier than ESPrade, that game will kick your ass in its latter half: moreso if playing for score.
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hmm, i guess my shitty eyes cant handle fast bullets D:

oh well, i guess its just an opinion sorta thing :D
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Ra.De's bomb system is absolutely broken in my opinion. It's not a real easy game to clear due to the final boss, believe me, but you can get 5 bombs out of 1 bar and if you plan refills you can spend quite a bit of the game invulnerable to bullets. Holding the bomb button doesn't drain much of the charge bar, either - even if you hold for 6 seconds you probably can make at least 2 or 3 more bombs.

If you strategize, bombing can take almost all the challenge out of the game, is what I'm saying.

Don't play it for score, though.
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RNGmaster wrote: Don't play it for score, though.
It's all about the X15 8)
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Mushi maniac is easier than original IMO too.

..but go for esp ra.de. Mushi is way too mainstream.
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Skykid wrote:
RNGmaster wrote: Don't play it for score, though.
It's all about the X15 8)
You mean x16?

Anyway, I feel like Mushi 1 is an easier 1cc. If you get hit in the first three stages of Rade you might as well start over.
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IMHO, original is way easier than maniac.
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I find original easier than maniac in Mushi. I can get to the TLB in original, but on maniac the farthest I ever got was stage 4.

I was able to beat ESPRade though. I find it way easier than Mushi.
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ookitarepanda wrote: You mean x16?
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Mushi original is the easiest by far people finding it difficult are just approaching it in the wrong manner with the exception of a couple bosses its pretty much a standard memoriser you should know exactly whats coming next all the time so bullet speed should not make a difference but if you are playing on pure reflexes then yeah you will find it harder .
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mushi original. just ignore any of the scoring tricks. first three stages you should be able to nm1b (stage 3 boss has one pattern i cant stand, so i bomb towards the end of it). stage 4 has a few hairy parts, but the second half through the dragonflies is piss easy once you figure it out. stage 5 you can bomb the crap out of, especially the mid-boss and the second half. final boss is pretty easy, 2 bombs tops.

rade has that dumb *dies* "i dodged that shit!" *punches control panel* hitbox.
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Vamos wrote:Mushi original is the easiest by far people finding it difficult are just approaching it in the wrong manner with the exception of a couple bosses its pretty much a standard memoriser you should know exactly whats coming next all the time so bullet speed should not make a difference but if you are playing on pure reflexes then yeah you will find it harder .
I think that's going to be my toughest challenge for ANY Cave game - I mostly play shooters on reflex... Obviously going to have to change that. :(
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Well its only 5 stages long so not exactly much to remember shouldnt take you long to never die on stages 1 and 2 a bit longer for 3 , 4 is pretty easy boss might need a bomb or 2 so that leaves 5 which really is the only dangerous stage plenty of sniper action and tap dodging .
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RNGmaster wrote:
If you strategize, bombing can take almost all the challenge out of the game, is what I'm saying.
What a load of cobblers.

The game isn't very difficult anyhow, but like Galuda, the end boss is a tough old bitch.
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Mushi Original was my first Cave 1CC I think- fun and pretty easy to get down with a small amount of practice. ESPrade, while awesome, is definitely harder in the leter levels unless you plan on bombing. Especially some of the later bullet patterns.
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