So Cave cancelled their Vita shooter.

[Annoyboy]

I wonder what the chances are of Cave striking a deal with Konami to make Gradius VI. I can't help but think it would end up on iPhone though.

[Seahawk]

IMO a big problem with Cave is the many of their games are just unavailable in most places outside of Japan, even in download form.
Nintendo (of America) put up untranslated foreign games on their online service back when that service was active -- shooting games don't really revolve around text, so you don't really need any localization for them.
Microsoft may have their own rules regarding that, though.

Also, the big influence of retailers and publishing companies nowadays would probably prevent any of their games from reaching retail, as they have no brand recognition and hence minimal sales. That is probably why Aksys bolted on them after Deathsmiles.

I wonder what the chances are of Cave striking a deal with Konami to make Gradius VI. I can't help but think it would end up on iPhone though.

Chances are it'd end up as another casino slot machine.

[Ed Oscuro]

I wonder what the chances are of Cave striking a deal with Konami to make Gradius VI. I can't help but think it would end up on iPhone though.

I wonder what the chances are of Cave striking a deal with Konami to make Gradius VI. I can't help but think it would end up on iPhone though.

Chances are it'd end up as another casino slot machine.

Calling Pachinko "casino" makes it sound much less squalid than it actually is.

[Rezwalker]

Maybe they should try kickstarter for there next stg to see
they got nothing to lose a this point.

My opinion



Dont go on steam !!!! Damn Gabe will do all the $$$ not Cave

[Age of Kings]

In my dreams, CAVE, Yotsubane, and the (possibly already dead) Milestone collaborate on a game.

Hey, if people are posting their ridiculous "I want CAVE to do this and that" stuff, I might as well throw my lot in.

[Despatche]

milestone doesn't mesh very well, they'd be better with treasure. try some more doujin cave cloners like x.x and temperance lance

[gs68]

I personally wouldn't have minded the Vita shmup. At the least, it has a usable D-pad (compared to the PSP-1k's anyway) and other tangible controls; I'm tired of CAVE mostly just making touchshmups. Kinda sad to see it not performing well, especially since, at the least, it's not region-locked like the 3DS.

At this point shmups are slowly turning into something more for indie devs than corporate ones. Who wants to try to make profit in an industry where any game without cinematic visuals or >10 hours of gameplay will be seen as bargin bin ware at best?

[Despatche]

i'm sorry but that happened back in 2000 or before and it wasn't slow in the slightest

most of the efforts we've gotten since then are either actual indie or near-indie efforts (milestone, skonec, indies themselves) or what the indies should be doing (cave, raizing)

edit: i'm not even seeing the difference, i'm sorry

[gs68]

Well, more like turning into an exclusively-indie genre.

[Seahawk]

Calling Pachinko "casino" makes it sound much less squalid than it actually is.

It's got crazy production value behind it as well as more CG video work than was ever put into any actual game .

[Cuilan]

Cave really should consider getting into the lucrative pachislot business as a means of generating income to support their game development. It's what helps keep SNK and Sega afloat.

Dodonpachislot!

[Obscura]

Cave really should consider getting into the lucrative pachislot business as a means of generating income to support their game development. It's what helps keep SNK and Sega afloat.

Dodonpachislot!

I can see it now; the only way to get a payout is to win a whole bunch of times in a row. Otherwise, you drop your chain and get nothing.

[BulletMagnet]

Would anyone be able to confirm the speculation from this piece that Cave's stock drop is directly related to that of GREE thanks to that anti-gambling-ish legislation? Supposedly Cave got a hunk of money from GREE, but I don't know nearly enough about the business end of things to know if that's true...if so it's definitely a shame that something so far removed from the games the company is most famous for could end up reshaping them so dramatically.

[newguns]

It's had an impact, but they were already on the decline for awhile now.

1 month
http://stocks.finance.yahoo.co.jp/stock ... 760.Q&d=1m

3 months
http://stocks.finance.yahoo.co.jp/stock ... 760.Q&d=3m

6 months
http://stocks.finance.yahoo.co.jp/stock ... 760.Q&d=6m

1 year
http://stocks.finance.yahoo.co.jp/stock ... 760.Q&d=1y

Much of this was due to speculation from the social bubble that their GREE/Mobage hit "Shirotsuku" would open the door to heavy income from social games.

[Cuilan]

So my speculation from yesterday was at least partially right, eh?

Even without the threat of the "social game micro-transaction" bubble bursting, Cave would be in much better shape right now had there been greater communication between upper management and the project leads. It's as if the higher-ups didn't care about what the rest of the company was doing.

[Op Intensify]

Can't Cave at least beg for sales like when Triangle Service was about to go under?

[AntiFritz]

It amazes me that triangle service is still around...

[Skykid]

Cave really should consider getting into the lucrative pachislot business as a means of generating income to support their game development.

Pretty sure they already are.

[Op Intensify]

It amazes me that triangle service is still around...

I think it's pretty much just Toshiaki Fujino left there now. I hope he can get Ge~Sen Love released.

[neorichieb1971]

Cave have taken a chapter out of Sega's book. Its fading, I can hardly see the light anymore.. .... .... . . ..

[trap15]

Cave have taken a chapter out of Sega's book. Its fading, I can hardly see the light anymore.. .... .... . . ..

Nah, they didn't vomit all over their #1 series and shove out turd after turd based on it.

[Tokyo-J]

Can't Cave at least beg for sales like when Triangle Service was about to go under?

Triangle Service is just one guy keeping up with his Go Daddy Domain name costs every year!!!

Now they need to make Nexzeal and beg everyone to buy that!

[xbl0x180]

I just looked up Nexzeal to see if it was real

[KAI]

Thats what happens when a Shmup company starts doing non-Shmups games.

[evil_ash_xero]

I feel the quality of their games has dropped, since DS.


The new DDP looks good, but the designs bring it down. Shame.

Thats what happens when a Shmup company starts doing non-Shmups games.

This too. I mean, if they were able to make GOOD games in other genres, that would be a different story. But it's obvious that they don't have the chops for anything but shmups.

[KAI]

We shoul blame 5pb and their fucking Visual Novels who inspired cave to do Instant Brain.

[Frederik]

Pah, Pachinko...

They should combine a dying genre I love with another dying genre I love and make
pinball machines Imagine a blinking, noisy Mushihimesama machine -

SPIRITUAL LARSA MMMMMMMULTIBAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!! *strobes*

[trap15]

SPIRITUAL LARSA MMMMMMMULTIBAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!! *strobes*

I would pay for this

[BarfHappy]

Pah, Pachinko...

They should combine a dying genre I love with another dying genre I love and make
pinball machines Imagine a blinking, noisy Mushihimesama machine -

SPIRITUAL LARSA MMMMMMMULTIBAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!! *strobes*

I would love a mushi-themed pinball... but gottlieb is long gone and they were the vg ones :/
We can forget about Stern... they would never do that... a prometheus pinball or i don t know suuuure, but a shmup pinball HET.

[KAI]

I think they should be doing more games like Touge 3