My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

[Illyrian]

The unpacking video isn't an unpacking video, it's activism - or at least that's its intention. Whether or not I'm a social misfit I'll leave those who know me to decide.

I say that you are, like anyone else here.

That's your call. You don't actually know me though.

There are several guys who frequent these boards that I know personally, and I wouldn't consider them social misfits at all.[/quote]

Am I one of them >.>

[Skykid]

Am I one of them >.>

Well I know you personally, yeah.

[Illyrian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTZctTG6cE

WHAT NOW!?

[BIL]

I have to say, I wouldn't have known this show existed without topics like this. Where do you people encounter this stuff? Maybe it's because this is the only forum I visit? Anyway, thank god.

[Paradigm]

So what you're saying is, everyone with a hobby is abnormal, including the entirety of this forum.

I'm glad we could clear this up.

Yes, that's what the normal people would tell you. Better, that's what I have been told by those who qualify as such, one million times or so. The whole pretense that only bronies are weirdos is, well, a pretense.

Everyone plays games these days, it's quite normal.

Were you in a coma during the playstation era or something?

[Randorama]

That's your call. You don't actually know me though.

There are several guys who frequent these boards that I know personally, and I wouldn't consider them social misfits at all.

I am wondering whether you mean something else than "introvert" or "weirdo", by "misfit". Could you elaborate a bit, please?

Also, the whole "you don't actually know me"...your posts say something about you, if you're committed to what you say. But, feel free to say that you wear a mask on a forum and etc. etc. etc...

Again, this boils down to your first post: if you want to feel better and more adult than the bronies, I challenge to grab a "normal" person and show them your fukkatsu poster, anime and the like. You may actually be more adult, indeed, but I doubt that you'd fall within the range of the "normal" and "adult" scale. Much like anyone else around.

Everyone plays games these days, it's quite normal.

Were you in a coma during the playstation era or something?

No, in the arcade. I am lunatic enough to consider anything else than arcade games as, well, not games.
Also, I know people old enough to frown on games and anything else "hobby". World's not entirely made of Peter Pan-like DINKs.

Actually, I don't play console games and, when I will be the overlord of the Universe, I will make normal only people who don't watch bronies (that's a given!) and can 1-CC at least 50 arcade titles *shakes fist angrily*

[blackoak]

I just finished watching all of Fraggle Rock (tears were shed), which I hadn't seen since I was a kid. Having only seen one episode of MLP, I can't say for sure whether the writing is as good as Fraggle Rock, but I imagine the appeal is similar.

I don't really care for the art style of MLP so I probably won't ever get into it... but, my first self-selected toy as a child was a My Little Pony. I was 4 or 5 and had just gotten my first shots, and I believe it was a white unicorn. Later I would get into GI Joes and such but I always had an aesthetically sensitive side which appreciated beauty and traditionally "feminine" things--a trait generally associated with artists, and particularly hard for non-artists to really understand. I have many friends like this... they're the same friends who generally don't like abstract art because they're insensate to the non-utilitarian subjective dimension of art, which they're at great pains to explain away with pedantic rules and justifications (not unlike many made in this thread).

[Skykid]

I am wondering whether you mean something else than "introvert" or "weirdo", by "misfit". Could you elaborate a bit, please?

Also, the whole "you don't actually know me"...your posts say something about you, if you're committed to what you say. But, feel free to say that you wear a mask on a forum and etc. etc. etc...

I made an amateur assessment on the last page. I'm not sure why you keep picking at wording and going off of the beaten path. If you want to discuss something, discuss the statement directly and not everything around the statement.

In answer to your question, 'misfit' is not a nice/preferable word, but the only one I could think of that fits easily. A misfit would be someone ill at ease with themselves, who struggles to be comfortable in normal social situations due to self-consciousness and insecurity. Bronies, if you observe body language in youtube brony meets etc, very much exemplify these traits; which is why I suggested the attraction of MLP, weeabooism, or any other extreme attention seeking fad is that the individual can be comfortably un-comfortable in a group that will not judge them, and benefit from human interaction. The show itself is secondary; the trick of the mind is that it's primary.

"You don't actually know me" is a fair and correct assertion. You know me through forum posts where I'm not afraid to speak my mind; but you've never sat down with me and talked about non-videogame related subject matter. You don't know whether or not I'm an introvert, or anything of my family, friends, background etc.

I'd be surprised if you think you know anyone from forum posts to be honest.

I am lunatic enough to consider anything else than arcade games as, well, not games.

Lunatic is probably the right word. What about Chess?

Also, I know people old enough to frown on games and anything else "hobby".

Some people lack imagination.

[Randorama]

I made an amateur assessment on the last page. I'm not sure why you keep picking at wording and going off of the beaten path. If you want to discuss something, discuss the statement directly and not everything around the statement.

Because I am not sure I understood you correctly, of course. In fact, I understood "misfit" to mean something different than the definition you offer below:

In answer to your question, 'misfit' is not a nice/preferable word, but the only one I could think of that fits easily. A misfit would be someone ill at ease with themselves, who struggles to be comfortable in normal social situations due to self-consciousness and insecurity.

Anyway:

Bronies, if you observe body language in youtube brony meets etc, very much exemplify these traits; which is why I suggested the attraction of MLP, weeabooism, or any other extreme attention seeking fad is that the individual can be comfortably un-comfortable in a group that will not judge them, and benefit from human interaction. The show itself is secondary; the trick of the mind is that it's primary.

I agree with you, but I'd argue that people belonging to these fandom groups share these behavioral patterns as well, not just bronies. So, I fail to see the need to sort out bronies and elect them as public enemy N.1, in the quest for serious adulthood.

And, aside that, I don't think that this forum is the best venue for complaining about fad groups.

How many threads we had, over the last 12 years at least, in which shmups were just a pretense to complain that the "mainstream does not understand us", and the like?

There have been periods of this forum (I'd say 2002-2006) in which the main chat looked like a counselor centre The "I like shmups, but the mainstreamerz don't understand me" was, like, the content of 1/3 of the threads.

Not to mention the stream of users that complain(ed) about shmups being difficult, flamewars about collecting (not playing) rare editions,...,etc, and tons of other threads in which people showed *zero* interest in playing the games, sharing scores, discuss strategies, and generally show genuine appreciation for the genre.

I'd say that this forum, but more accurately most of its users, look much like a different kind of misfits than the average bronie.

"You don't actually know me" is a fair and correct assertion. You know me through forum posts where I'm not afraid to speak my mind; but you've never sat down with me and talked about non-videogame related subject matter. You don't know whether or not I'm an introvert, or anything of my family, friends, background etc. I'd be surprised if you think you know anyone from forum posts to be honest.

As long as you speak with a honest mind, your posts say a lot about your thought processes, beliefs and other aspects of your personality. That's partial knowledge, as far as I am concerned, but that's still a form of knowledge about an individual. Limited? Yes, but that's the problem with this type of interaction.

Your posts say something about what's inside your head, as long as you are honest. And, you posted too much in non-game threads, to say that we don't know much about you.

Lunatic is probably the right word. What about Chess?

Touché. I meant videogames, as I really have irrational bias against console games. I own Jet Set Radio, and that's it.

Ironically, I play and played non-eletronic games in aboudant doses. I prefer Backgammon and Go, or War Games. I never learnt the ropes of Chess, for some mysterious reason.

Some people lack imagination.

I agree.

[njiska]

Gabe Newell is a brony. Colour me surprised.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/04/g ... -herd.html
http://geekaweek.net/2012/02/legends-of ... be-newell/

[drunkninja24]

Ha, can't say I'm totally surprised.

[Skykid]

He looks like one.

[xbl0x180]

I KNEW I had seen this before. It was on Dexter's Laboratory... they had a show-within-a-show called "Pony Puff Princess"

[njiska]

That interesting coincidence considering the director of Dexter's Lab was Craig McCracken who married Lauren Faust and the show also launched the career of Rob Renzetti who was the story editor for the first two seasons of MLP.

[Udderdude]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/67168 ... ttle-brony

[xbl0x180]

That interesting coincidence considering the director of Dexter's Lab was Craig McCracken who married Lauren Faust and the show also launched the career of Rob Renzetti who was the story editor for the first two seasons of MLP.

What do you mean "launched the career of Rob Renzetti"? The guy has been working on cartoon shows for almost two decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Renzetti

Hell, I liked My Life As A Teenage Robot because of his Bauhaus and Art Deco Retrofuturist aesthetic

[Skykid]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/67168 ... ttle-brony

ROFL! Friendship is Tragic. That wins the thread. What a perfect summary.

[njiska]

What do you mean "launched the career of Rob Renzetti"? The guy has been working on cartoon shows for almost two decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Renzetti

Hell, I liked My Life As A Teenage Robot because of his Bauhaus and Art Deco Retrofuturist aesthetic

Yeah and Dexter's Lab, in 1996, the 3rd show he worked on, was what helped launch he career. His work on 2 Stupid Dogs and Dumb and Dumber was not overly significant.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/67168 ... ttle-brony

I love that sketch. So horribly insulting, but hilarious and surprisingly well researched. The comments like "In episode 7 you won 35 games of tic-tac-toe against Rarity" are correct.

[xbl0x180]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/67168 ... ttle-brony

ROFL! Friendship is Tragic. That wins the thread. What a perfect summary.

HahahHaHHah

They really captured the animation style... does it mean that the animators are as talented as those from the actual show or that the style of animation is the equivalent of all the animu CG trash from the past 15 years?



I'd rather watch Happy Tree Friends

[BIL]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/67168 ... ttle-brony

LMAO

[Skykid]

I love that sketch. So horribly insulting, but hilarious and surprisingly well researched. The comments like "In episode 7 you won 35 games of tic-tac-toe against Rarity" are correct.

Agreed. I think the "emotionally stunted grown man" comment was especially insightful.

They really captured the animation style... does it mean that the animators are as talented as those from the actual show or that the style of animation is the equivalent of all the animu CG trash from the past 15 years?

The second one. Welcome to Flash. (:puke:)

[njiska]

I love that sketch. So horribly insulting, but hilarious and surprisingly well researched. The comments like "In episode 7 you won 35 games of tic-tac-toe against Rarity" are correct.

Agreed. I think the "emotionally stunted grown man" comment was especially insightful.

I'll take that over being compared to the Klan like earlier this week. Still, i'm glad you're able to derive so much pleasure from trying to bring down people with different tastes. It's a very traditionally British mindset. Too bad you're not very good at it. .

They really captured the animation style... does it mean that the animators are as talented as those from the actual show or that the style of animation is the equivalent of all the animu CG trash from the past 15 years?

The second one. Welcome to Flash. (:puke:)[/quote]

I really wish people would stop hating on flash. It's just a tool and like anything else it can either be used well or used poorly. MLP uses flash well. It doesn't look like traditional animation, but it's not supposed to. That's the whole point of choosing a different style.

[xbl0x180]

The second one. Welcome to Flash. (:puke:)

HOLY F****** S***! So that's what "flash animation" is. Truly, they (the animators for the show) are plumbing the depths of the medium

[Skykid]

I love that sketch. So horribly insulting, but hilarious and surprisingly well researched. The comments like "In episode 7 you won 35 games of tic-tac-toe against Rarity" are correct.

Agreed. I think the "emotionally stunted grown man" comment was especially insightful.

I'll take that over being compared to the Klan like earlier this week. Still, i'm glad you're able to derive so much pleasure from trying to bring down people with different tastes. It's a very traditionally British mindset. Too bad you're not very good at it. .

On the contrary, I think I'm becoming rather excellent at belittling people. If you're attempting to discourage me by constantly suggesting my attempts are falling flat, I'll have to strengthen my resolve and double my efforts!

On the subject though, 'different tastes' is not an escape route, I really wish people would stop attempting to use it. I will accept being an "emotionally stunted grown man" can be a causality for aberrant or socially backward behaviours and tastes, however. The video is correct in all its assumptions, it's just a question of whether or not you as a brony can accept that the adoption of MLP is more a cry for help than a genuine affection for the show. If you think otherwise I would suggest counselling.

I really wish people would stop hating on flash.

Why? Flash is a horrible, sterile, clinical method of animation that has sucked the beauty out of the medium, once again, for purposes of revenue.

[njiska]

On the subject though, 'different tastes' is not an escape route, I really wish people would stop attempting to use it. I will accept being an "emotionally stunted grown man" can be a causality for aberrant or socially backward behaviours and tastes, however. The video is correct in all its assumptions, it's just a question of whether or not you as a brony can accept that the adoption of MLP is more a cry for help than a genuine affection for the show. If you think otherwise I would suggest counselling.

So what you're telling me is that because I like a show, that I'm not the target demographic of, i'm crying for help? Please, I don't want to begin to tell you just how narrow minded and foolish that sounds. That might make sense if MLP was all I focused on, but there's a whole lot more to my life than just that. I do love how you're trying to make this a mental health issue, though. It's kind of cute to see how people try and rationalize differences from the norm. If I wanted to I could try to make the argument that your constant need to belittle others is just a sign of your own insecurity, but that would just be fuelling a stupid fire. To be honest i wouldn't even bother addressing you anymore if it weren't for Spadgy convincing me that you were a alright person in real life.

[drunkninja24]

Don't worry nj, Skykid is simply a brony in denial, it's obvious he loves the show and cuddles up with his Twilight Sparkle plushie at night

[Skykid]

On the subject though, 'different tastes' is not an escape route, I really wish people would stop attempting to use it. I will accept being an "emotionally stunted grown man" can be a causality for aberrant or socially backward behaviours and tastes, however. The video is correct in all its assumptions, it's just a question of whether or not you as a brony can accept that the adoption of MLP is more a cry for help than a genuine affection for the show. If you think otherwise I would suggest counselling.

So what you're telling me is that because I like a show, that I'm not the target demographic of, i'm crying for help? Please, I don't want to begin to tell you just how narrow minded and foolish that sounds. That might make sense if MLP was all I focused on, but there's a whole lot more to my life than just that. I do love how you're trying to make this a mental health issue, though. It's kind of cute to see how people try and rationalize differences from the norm. If I wanted to I could try to make the argument that your constant need to belittle others is just a sign of your own insecurity, but that would just be fuelling a stupid fire. To be honest i wouldn't even bother addressing you anymore if it weren't for Spadgy convincing me that you were a alright person in real life.

Ah Spadgy, why you lyin' son!

I don't see Bronyism as a mental health issue, just a state of mind. It's the same as goths who cut their arms and actively wallow in sorrow and pain: the connection to a community through music is more important than the music itself. The trend is itself is a form of acceptance: the material is completely irrelevant. Any youtube brony meet video is consistent in the absolute with the exaggerated caricature present in the above animation. Like the weeaboo, life and behaviour is fashioned around the collective community and the liberating freedom - or shielding - it presents from persecution. I refuse to accept that MLP - the material, the show - is the root cause for the fandom. I've watched it and examined it and it's a show for little girls: nothing highbrow. It's just manipulated by defenders into something of higher quality because it's a bubble for their insecurities they don't want people to burst.

[Giest118]

You want to know who also didn't like ponies? Hitler.

Therefore, if you don't like ponies, you are just like Hitler.






[Post edited to fix jokes that are too much for people to handle]

[Paradigm]

omg ban plz

[Skykid]

omg ban plz

For serious.