My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

[Randorama]

I like dolls, but I don't want to admit it, at least not on a internet forum on a genre of videogames that caters to sociopaths, virgin males

Who doesn't, little pumpkin?

[chum]

I really like this show, especially the more cartoony episodes such as the one where Twilight goes nuts.

It is just that: a cartoon. Nothing to get upset over. The hostility some people are displaying is certainly at least as worrying as the people that identify a little bit too much with the ponyverse.

I think the "brony" label is silly, but what's really so upsetting about it? Fandom will be fandom. Also, some people seem to suggest that liking MLP all boils down to buying into the hype, if you ask me that's pretty arrogant.

Noone has to justify their liking of a simple cartoon, we all have the ability to discern quality.

[Specineff]

^^ Especially when the classic games we grew up with and reminisce about also employ cute, colorful cartoon characters. (Coryoon, Cotton, Opa-Opa, Parodius, Star Parodier, Ristar, Magical Chase, Twinbee, Bomb Jack, Athena, Bomberman, Yoshi, FF Moogles, Classic Mega Man, Alex Kidd, Wonder Boy, and all those Disney games made by Capcom.)

[xbl0x180]

Watch Adventure Time and Regular Show instead, shit is awesome.

[JBC]

There are guys who read Playboy for the articles and guys who watch My Little Pony for the sophistication

[xbl0x180]

Wait... these guys are fapping to My Little Pony?!

[drunkninja24]

Wait... these guys are fapping to My Little Pony?!

Sadly some do, yes.

But it's the internet, should anything really surprise anybody anymore?

Also

Watch Adventure Time and Regular Show instead, shit is awesome.

I love both of those as well.

[Blackbird]

Did anyone else think today's episode was amazing? I about died of laughter at the reference to Ceasar's betrayal. You know the one: "Et tu, Brutus?"

Of course, if it were me writing, it would have been "Et tu, Scootaloo?" just for the rhyme, but I'll take what I can get =D.

[Elixir]

Parents are adults though. I didn't think I needed to emphasize that.

You didn't. I'm pointing out that "bronies" aren't part of what she said - "kids with their parents or male parents".

And the Touhou thing is actually something I've been saying for months now, however, that image doesn't really portray my thoughts: both fanbases have fans making music, games, art (mostly closet furries), and other stuff relating to the source material. Although it definitely does help reinforce my comparison when the source material shares similar interests with one another.

Who doesn't, little pumpkin?

I'm not interested in any of that garbage.

[Randorama]

I'm not interested in any garbage such as ponies, only in dolls

Fixed.

Again: the skykids and elixirs on this thread are acting high and might while bashing a pretentious fanbase, as this would redeem them from being fanboys of something every inch as "silly", such as dolls, animes, dead videogame genres, and so on.

Can we close this thread, please?

[Krimzon Kitzune]

Can we close this thread, please?

Eh, I don't think it's necessary to close it. Even if it came down to that, it would probably be only a matter of time before another one is made. I think just one MLP is enough.

[Elixir]

I'm not interested in any garbage such as ponies, only in dolls

Fixed.

Again: the skykids and elixirs on this thread are acting high and might while bashing a pretentious fanbase, as this would redeem them from being fanboys of something every inch as "silly", such as dolls, animes, dead videogame genres, and so on.

Can we close this thread, please?

Yes, of course appreciation of sculptures of art and "dead video game genres" is equally comparable to that of watching My Little Pony in adulthood.

Since you clearly have nothing of value to say, and clearly want the (only recently resurrected) thread locked, I'd suggest you stop replying.

[Jaimers]

You didn't. I'm pointing out that "bronies" aren't part of what she said - "kids with their parents or male parents".

Alright. Though a direct quote immediately after that sentence was "It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it too." If that clears things up.
I can understand your issue with an extravagant fandom but in essence I don't see anything wrong about just watching the show. It's only MLP in name only and apart from that it's just like any other cartoon. By with I mean no over-the-top girly overtones that make you want to puke.

mostly closet furries

Funnily enough from what I've seen most bronies despise furries and most furries despise bronies.

[BareKnuckleRoo]

"It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it too."

I just don't see the appeal. Watched a couple of episodes (some brony wouldn't stop pestering the shit out of me to do so), plots are way too predictable, not enough adult subtext appeal compared to other cartoons like Invader Zim (how it even managed to be passed off as a kids show is beyond me) or Spliced, definitely pushes the boundaries of what's acceptable in a kids cartoon. Apparently Spongebob is pretty decent too, but I've not watched it myself.

As a kids show, it's there to sell product, but I see MLP's appeal for its adult fanbase as more due to the meme aspect of it than anything else; there's better cartoons out there, let alone better kids cartoons. Now I have an urge to hunt down Inspector Gadget episodes...

bronies despise furries and most furries despise bronies.

would that mean most furry bronies are into self-loathing? lol

[Skykid]

Ok, this is some quality circlejerk right here:

[img]BRONY%20SOCIOLOGICAL%20ANALYSIS%20IMAGE[/img]

The guy touches on a few pertinent points, which shows he does have some understanding of why a fad like bronyism exists. But he's too soft on himself and likeminded compatriots. A real analysis would be a psychoanalysis; all a sociological analysis does is provide a roadmap of what we already see, it just doesn't explain why.

Understanding Bronyism is not dissimilar to how we understand any group of self appointed social sects: goths, emos, weeaboos, Christians. They're all formed in similar ways and for similar reasons.

MLP fanatics probably don't realise that the show itself is actually the lowest rung on their personal agenda. In-fact, if no-one else cared about the show, they would probably quickly lose interest too. The fad is like any other: it's about finding a place of acceptance socially, where you can feel comfortable and not under pressure for not conforming to mainstream norms.

Participation is, unwittingly, an act of complete selfishness. When reflecting on Bronyism, most people tend to use terms and phrases that suggest togetherness, unity and friendship; but it's really a completely self-serving engagement: an opportunity to nurture a subconscious need for human interaction.

If you go onto youtube and observe the body language of Bronies singing winter wrap-up, you see stereotypical introversion and insecurity, which is precisely the reason they've bonded over a cartoon for female children. It's subject matter that's completely alien to the candid observer, which is exactly how they want it: it's a personal freedom, preferable to commonly understood social practices in which they cannot achieve a comfortable fit. The very nature of a grown man throwing themselves into something like MLP is about finding a common ground with other people who struggle to find a place in society.

So, to summarise: MLP itself is not important. It's simply a platform for social misfits to feel understood. The show itself is almost completely irrelevant, in the same way anime is almost completely irrelevant to weeaboo culture. It's about being able to express oneself through their insecurities, rather than challenging oneself to overcome them.

[Randorama]

Double post.

[Randorama]

If I may...

So, to summarise: STUFF itself is not important. It's simply a platform for social misfits to feel understood. The STUFF itself is almost completely irrelevant, in the same way OTHER STUFF is almost completely irrelevant to A NICHE culture. It's about being able to express oneself through their insecurities, rather than challenging oneself to overcome them.

If I were you, I'd save this paragraph for future discussions about any Pop culture fans and their sociology. Maybe "the product", in place of STUFF, would be more appropriate among a somewhat more pretentious crowd (or, say, advertising firms).

Hopefully you're not placing yourself on a non-misfit pedestal, after your unpacking video it would be a bit out of place.

Also...

Yes, of course appreciation of DOLLS and A GENRE THAT HAS NOTHING TO SAY SINCE 2002 is equally comparable to that of watching My Little HIPSTER STUFF, since they're all things all stupid losers would do, no? Especially on a forum where people COLLECT, TALK BUT DON'T REALLY PLAY SAID GAMES.

Little edit by me. Now, If you were a minimum wise, then you would have tried to say something like this.

Ah, right, you can't understand counterfactuals. You *even* made a fuss about this. My bad.

Since you clearly have nothing of value to say, and clearly want the (only recently resurrected) thread locked, I'd suggest you stop replying.

Suggestion declined. Most of your posts are fights about things you don't like, and you have venture into making suggestions to others about posting?

The ones who want you banned may be right, after all.

[JBC]

(admin edit - no pictures like that please...)

[BIL]

Wow, which episode is he from? Suddenly this show is a lot more interesting. The art style looks a lot more realistic too, did the budget go up?

[JBC]

It's a production still from Michael Bay's MLP:FIM in theaters 2014.

[Blackbird]

Blah, graphics whores. You only started liking MLP after it got the gritty, realistic, "next-gen" graphic treatment.

[Specineff]

So, to summarise: MLP itself is not important. It's simply a platform for social misfits to feel understood. The show itself is almost completely irrelevant, in the same way anime is almost completely irrelevant to weeaboo culture. It's about being able to express oneself through their insecurities, rather than challenging oneself to overcome them.

Perhaps the same could be said of all fandoms...

[xbl0x180]

Oh, s***, I thought bronies were furries, except they gravitated to the one show. I can't lambast dudes who watch cartoons aimed at little girls since I watch cartoons about little girls doing cute things - stuff that'd make normal people shake their heads in disapproval

[Elixir]

Little edit by me. Now, If you were a minimum wise, then you would have tried to say something like this.

Ah, right, you can't understand counterfactuals. You *even* made a fuss about this. My bad.

There is nothing "counterfactual" about your inaccurate comparisons between hobbies. What you effectively suggested was that my distaste for this fandom (note: not the show itself - don't care) was irrelevant due to my own tastes, which is ridiculous, because the brony hobby isn't costly, niche, or obscure. Same with Touhou, actually. They're both standalone mainstream "subcultures" now, no longer the "Touhou shooting game series" or "My Little Pony for kids" impression they originally had.

Suggestion declined. Most of your posts are fights about things you don't like, and you have venture into making suggestions to others about posting?

The ones who want you banned may be right, after all.

This thread was only just resurrected, I haven't said anything on the matter in ages.

You're the one wanting the thread closed, yet you're still replying. Which is it? Make up your mind.

[Illyrian]

Ok, this is some quality circlejerk right here:

[img]BRONY%20SOCIOLOGICAL%20ANALYSIS%20IMAGE[/img]

The guy touches on a few pertinent points, which shows he does have some understanding of why a fad like bronyism exists. But he's too soft on himself and likeminded compatriots. A real analysis would be a psychoanalysis; all a sociological analysis does is provide a roadmap of what we already see, it just doesn't explain why.

Understanding Bronyism is not dissimilar to how we understand any group of self appointed social sects: goths, emos, weeaboos, Christians. They're all formed in similar ways and for similar reasons.

MLP fanatics probably don't realise that the show itself is actually the lowest rung on their personal agenda. In-fact, if no-one else cared about the show, they would probably quickly lose interest too. The fad is like any other: it's about finding a place of acceptance socially, where you can feel comfortable and not under pressure for not conforming to mainstream norms.

Participation is, unwittingly, an act of complete selfishness. When reflecting on Bronyism, most people tend to use terms and phrases that suggest togetherness, unity and friendship; but it's really a completely self-serving engagement: an opportunity to nurture a subconscious need for human interaction.

If you go onto youtube and observe the body language of Bronies singing winter wrap-up, you see stereotypical introversion and insecurity, which is precisely the reason they've bonded over a cartoon for female children. It's subject matter that's completely alien to the candid observer, which is exactly how they want it: it's a personal freedom, preferable to commonly understood social practices in which they cannot achieve a comfortable fit. The very nature of a grown man throwing themselves into something like MLP is about finding a common ground with other people who struggle to find a place in society.

So, to summarise: MLP itself is not important. It's simply a platform for social misfits to feel understood. The show itself is almost completely irrelevant, in the same way anime is almost completely irrelevant to weeaboo culture. It's about being able to express oneself through their insecurities, rather than challenging oneself to overcome them.

I like the show but only have a passing interest, and I'd never refer to myself as a "brony" (ugh). I deliberately distance myself from the "brony" fanbase and don't push it on other people? I kinda just like that the show is completely without cynicism and animated well. What does that say about me then?

p.s. this isn't a throwdown or anything I'm just interested to know what you think

[Randorama]

There is nothing "counterfactual"

Well, nevermind... "If you were...then", and so on.

What you effectively suggested was that my distaste for this fandom (note: not the show itself - don't care) was irrelevant due to my own tastes, which is ridiculous, because the brony hobby isn't costly, niche, or obscure.

Are you seriously placing yourself on a pedestal of...whatever, because you spend a lot of money on something? Well, please see below:

Same with Touhou, actually. They're both standalone mainstream "subcultures" now, no longer the "Touhou shooting game series" or "My Little Pony for kids" impression they originally had.

I will make it explicit, then.

All of these hobbies, mainstream and obscure alike, are for little weirdos who don't grow up. If you want to disagree, then please talk with someone who is "normal", and considers any hobby that might be vaguely related to "childhood" pasttimes as an activity for Peter Pans. I doubt that he will appreciate the holier-than-thou antics of anyone on this forum.

Just to be sure, my late grandfather left me a collection of Victorian Dolls worth more than 100k euros. More than once, he was *sued* to the police as a potential paedophile, from so-called normal people. Having a hobby which is not completely mainstream was, and still is, at least in a random western society, a social stigma, regardless of its nature. Obscure and mainstream alike.

I can't even remotely stand the ponies or Tohou, but the whole witchhunt non-sense in this and other threads is really out of place. Adults don't play videogames or watch pretentious animation. They work, breed, drink themselves to stupor, watch tv to kill off what little neurons they're left with, choose two sides of the same party, and die by 24. Whether one wants to be niche and obscure, or mainstream and accepted, that's still stuff for useless weirdos and good-for-nothing freaks, much like videogames, etc.

You're the one wanting the thread closed, yet you're still replying. Which is it? Make up your mind.

Insofar as the thread is open, I'll post as I see fine. But I guess you're not one for the subtle options, I guess.

[Elixir]

So what you're saying is, everyone with a hobby is abnormal, including the entirety of this forum.

I'm glad we could clear this up.

[Skykid]

Hopefully you're not placing yourself on a non-misfit pedestal, after your unpacking video it would be a bit out of place.

The unpacking video isn't an unpacking video, it's activism - or at least that's its intention. Whether or not I'm a social misfit I'll leave those who know me to decide.

Perhaps the same could be said of all fandoms...

To a degree only. It depends on how much said fandom ostracises you from mainstream norms. It's the difference between going from hobbyism to attention seeking. If you ever watch a pack of weeaboos in their natural anime con habitat, attention seeking is 90% of what they do, because it's the only environment and crowd where they can command it. Outside of those established safe circles they're forced back into misfit mode.

I kinda just like that the show is completely without cynicism and animated well. What does that say about me then?

Not a great deal. I also think the show is well animated, written, and without cynicism, of the two episodes I've seen. But I wouldn't actually dedicate time to watching it because I'm not its target audience, and because of that it bores me.

[Randorama]

So what you're saying is, everyone with a hobby is abnormal, including the entirety of this forum.

I'm glad we could clear this up.

Yes, that's what the normal people would tell you. Better, that's what I have been told by those who qualify as such, one million times or so. The whole pretense that only bronies are weirdos is, well, a pretense.

But, please tell me if I said that I endorse this position. I don't, I might have been unclear on this. The question is whether one could give a toss about being normal or not.

Ah, and edit of myself earlier on: shmups died in 2003, maybe 2005 but I need to decide on Under Defeat.

The unpacking video isn't an unpacking video, it's activism - or at least that's its intention. Whether or not I'm a social misfit I'll leave those who know me to decide.

I say that you are, like anyone else here.

I'd qualify things such as helping the homeless as "social activism", though - the whole unpacking thing is for lunatics with too much money on their hands. But then the whole netherworld of collectionism has always been for lunatics with too much money in their hands (see comment on Opa).

[Skykid]

The unpacking video isn't an unpacking video, it's activism - or at least that's its intention. Whether or not I'm a social misfit I'll leave those who know me to decide.

I say that you are, like anyone else here.

That's your call. You don't actually know me though.

There are several guys who frequent these boards that I know personally, and I wouldn't consider them social misfits at all.