Homura, Giga Wing Gens, Raiden 3 and Shiki III now hacked

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Also, doesn't Dariusburst run on Type X hardware? :wink:
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I believe Darius Burst AC is a NESiCA game. The industry got wise to Type-X2 piracy after Continuum Shift.
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WOW

What a pain in the ass it was getting Raiden IV working with this. I must thank everyone who contributed help in this thread though, as it is the only english-language site that had anything remotely close to the varied information here.

In the end I had to add pause to the game.bat file and set compatibility to 256 color, shrink the explorer window after launching the bat, and I *FINALLY* got it to work somewhat consistently.

Sometimes it will work but with no sound. I know this is the case before any music plays also, because i can still see the mouse cursor on the screen. I think this may happen when closing the batch window at the same time as the game starts.. but I really dont know it's rather hit or miss right now with that. Just glad I can run this shit finally.

Oh yeah I'm using a replaced game.exe that makes the game store all of it's save data in the main game directory instead of d:\. Also the game is located in C:\Raiden IV.

Hope this helps someone, I've spent wayyyyy too much time seeing this through to a working state.


P.S- no matter how I set the loader_config keys and 4way stick option, I am always left without diagonal movement on my arcade stick. The only way to get full 8 way movement is to bind the movement to keyboard keys and them use xpadder to emu those keys on my stick. I would like to find a way to not have to use xpadder as I hear this possibly adds input lag?

P.S.S- Video playback is jittery i've noticed in Raiden IV, I dont know why this is.. I only have ffdshow codecs installed (via CCCP) and I use MadVR in Media Player Classic Home Cinema. Anyone else experience this and know a possible work-around? Everything else runs full speed/properly.


Thanks again for your helpful posts, everyone in this thread.. I especially liked when everyone tate-spammed pics of their setups! LOL

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I assume you're not in the US or Japan? Because there's an infinitely easier and quite cheap way to play Raiden IV.
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IseeThings wrote:Have fun, everybody loses with this IMHO.
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It'd be a wonder if piracy of old PC hardware arcade games is going to even be a notable trend, what with arcade releases dying out.

(Not, however, that I'm going to be playing these hacks, though it might be interesting to compare.)
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I found out how to avoid the entire windows shuffling nonsense and get the game to load 100% of the time correctly, through this small autohotkey script which automates the windows juggling insanity and loads the game instantly (does not require any compatibility modes like 256 color, etc from before either.. and sound always works) :

#notrayicon
Gui, -caption border
Gui, Color, ffffff
WinSet, TransColor, ffffff
run, %comspec% /c typex_loader.exe game.exe,, min
sleep 700 ; Adjust time here if it refuses to load. If you get IO error, reset your computer and try again.
WinClose, A
gui, show
sleep 7000
gui, destroy
exitapp


this is hands down the easiest way to load the game 100% of the time correctly.

note that if your game isnt named "game.exe" change the 5th line in the script to reflect that.

Just double click the ahk script and you're good to go. Even shortcuts to the desktop properly ^_^

P.S (and no, I don't own a 360, thx though)


EDIT: After further testing I found a way to fix the jittery video playback! This is strange, but I tried all video settings in nVidia control panel to no avail.. and just when I was about to give up on this portion of getting everything running smoothly, I thought to try EVGA Precision's FPS limiter and found that if I limit the game's fps to 59 the video plays back *perfectly*, and the game still plays beautifully as well. I'm sure many purists will gawk at purposefully deviating even 1 FPS from stock.. but this did the trick. Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
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Nice one, Mordecai Walfish! If I ever have issues with the batch file method I'll make use of that.

I don't suppose you've heard of a RIV_Launcher.exe by any chance? If it's the game itself then it's pretty irrelevant but at least one member's mentioned it and I'd like to know whether it alleviates any of those issues or not.
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Something always bugged me about this topic: Why "Raiden 3" but then "Shiki III"?

yeah, like i'd post anything else in here
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BPzeBanshee wrote:Nice one, Mordecai Walfish! If I ever have issues with the batch file method I'll make use of that.

I don't suppose you've heard of a RIV_Launcher.exe by any chance? If it's the game itself then it's pretty irrelevant but at least one member's mentioned it and I'd like to know whether it alleviates any of those issues or not.

My best guess would be that it has something to do with the "ArcadePC Loader" frontend for the Type X Loader. There is an executable included with that called RIV.exe that is apparently supposed to be used with Raiden IV. I haven't fucked with it yet, however so IDK what it does differently than the original exe, or perhaps even if it's just the modified exe which changes the save dir. I guess from your post you don't have much issues running the game though..

Despatche wrote:Something always bugged me about this topic: Why "Raiden 3" but then "Shiki III"?

yeah, like i'd post anything else in here
The number 3 seems to have a more futuristic vibe while the roman numeral could be it's fantasy counterpart, perhaps you can equate that to the numbering scheme in this topic and the games in question, to finally put your mind at ease on this complicated matter ^_^
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Mordecai Walfish wrote:if I limit the game's fps to 59 the video plays back *perfectly*, and the game still plays beautifully as well. I'm sure many purists will gawk at purposefully deviating even 1 FPS from stock.. but this did the trick. Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
Could that be because the game was indeed designed to run at 59.xx fps?
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Sweet! Got 'em all for PS2/XB360; much love! Giga Wing Generations was a tough when and when I finally tracked it down I was paying an arm and a leg for the re-release...
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moozooh wrote:
Mordecai Walfish wrote:if I limit the game's fps to 59 the video plays back *perfectly*, and the game still plays beautifully as well. I'm sure many purists will gawk at purposefully deviating even 1 FPS from stock.. but this did the trick. Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
Could that be because the game was indeed designed to run at 59.xx fps?

I had thought about that as a possibility, but 59.94 (NTSC) generally has none of these video playback problems with a 60hz refresh rate as 60/1.001 is a very minor variance, but the video playback issues I saw here were anything but minor.
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There's a difference between playing 59.94Hz content at 60Hz, run through a program which outputs 60Hz to the screen, and a program outputting a video signal mismatched with the display. Although, if I understand you correctly, it seems that the gameplay was correct but video was not, which is an interesting wrinkle that I don't think my observation covers.
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I noticed a slight shakiness in mine as well but only before I switched my screen orientation to reverse landscape, which seemed to fix both that and put the game into the proper page view. It may be a matter of perspective so I'll look at it closely the next time I'm home.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:... Although, if I understand you correctly, it seems that the gameplay was correct but video was not, which is an interesting wrinkle that I don't think my observation covers.

Correct. Gameplay runs perfectly while just the intro/ending videos had the shakes.
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Mordecai Walfish wrote:
BPzeBanshee wrote:Nice one, Mordecai Walfish! If I ever have issues with the batch file method I'll make use of that.

I don't suppose you've heard of a RIV_Launcher.exe by any chance? If it's the game itself then it's pretty irrelevant but at least one member's mentioned it and I'd like to know whether it alleviates any of those issues or not.

My best guess would be that it has something to do with the "ArcadePC Loader" frontend for the Type X Loader. There is an executable included with that called RIV.exe that is apparently supposed to be used with Raiden IV. I haven't fucked with it yet, however so IDK what it does differently than the original exe, or perhaps even if it's just the modified exe which changes the save dir. I guess from your post you don't have much issues running the game though..
I got a virus warning downloading that. Oh well. Probably doesn't work anyway. I have no issues running it besides needing a 4:3 aspect monitor that I can flip. My cousin's Vista laptop on the other hand is more picky regarding the pause of the batch file and minimising the explorer window.
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BPzeBanshee wrote: I got a virus warning downloading that. Oh well. Probably doesn't work anyway. I have no issues running it besides needing a 4:3 aspect monitor that I can flip. My cousin's Vista laptop on the other hand is more picky regarding the pause of the batch file and minimising the explorer window.
Yep that loader (version 1.4) has a couple false positives depending on what antivirus you use. I believe one comment I saw said Kaspersky had 8 seperate warnings from that package, lol. The exe's are repackaged in a "suspicious" way, like many false positives. It's not necessary if you can run the games fine already, but the Type X frontend is nice.
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PC-gaming-noob late to the party: I just installed Windows XP on my Mac just to get to play Gigawing Generations. The game boots up fine but after 10 seconds of playing the first stage it always crashes, saying 'game.exe has encountered a problem'.

Can someone help please :?:
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antares wrote:PC-gaming-noob late to the party: I just installed Windows XP on my Mac just to get to play Gigawing Generations. The game boots up fine but after 10 seconds of playing the first stage it always crashes, saying 'game.exe has encountered a problem'.

Can someone help please :?:
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It has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor and runs Windows natively, there shouldn't be much difference to a PC.

Also my above description wasn't accurate. I realized the game runs fine as long as I only use the D-Pad but shortly after pressing shot or bomb button it crashes :/
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antares wrote:It has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor and runs Windows natively, there shouldn't be much difference to a PC.

Also my above description wasn't accurate. I realized the game runs fine as long as I only use the D-Pad but shortly after pressing shot or bomb button it crashes :/
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Rebind your controls, maybe. If it crashes with a specific button it's probably related to the Type X config bindings being wrecked or something, I normally rebind them from whatever they were.
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BPzeBanshee wrote:
Mordecai Walfish wrote:
BPzeBanshee wrote:Nice one, Mordecai Walfish! If I ever have issues with the batch file method I'll make use of that.

I don't suppose you've heard of a RIV_Launcher.exe by any chance? If it's the game itself then it's pretty irrelevant but at least one member's mentioned it and I'd like to know whether it alleviates any of those issues or not.

My best guess would be that it has something to do with the "ArcadePC Loader" frontend for the Type X Loader. There is an executable included with that called RIV.exe that is apparently supposed to be used with Raiden IV. I haven't fucked with it yet, however so IDK what it does differently than the original exe, or perhaps even if it's just the modified exe which changes the save dir. I guess from your post you don't have much issues running the game though..
I got a virus warning downloading that. Oh well. Probably doesn't work anyway. I have no issues running it besides needing a 4:3 aspect monitor that I can flip. My cousin's Vista laptop on the other hand is more picky regarding the pause of the batch file and minimising the explorer window.
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I gave ArcadePC Loader a go (it doesn't give a virus alert with MS Essentials), and the folders with the various EXEs for specific games (ie. RIV.exe) are actual compressed archives that extract the Type X Loader, RIV_Launcher.exe and icons to the RIV folder where you put it in. It also provides a GUI interface for rebinding controls although some buttons won't display on it so if you're unsure if it binded correctly there's always the command-line version (launchable via the ArcadePC Loader frontend).

On my newly upgraded machine, I run it and it consistently loads Raiden IV without a command prompt screen and *rotated for you so you don't have to flip* just fine. Shame there's no option setting to make it not flip so you can have optional TATE while still correctly launching the program. I'm guessing that the flip part only works if your graphics card supports it as going from it's initial fullscreen behaviour (looks like a window, mouse is rotated left, then expands) it's probably using a bundled DxWnd and iRotate or something similar too.
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So, uh, sorry to necro this thread but I tried to get this to work on my laptop (it works flawlessly on my desktop) and when I tried launching a game (TGM3 to be specific) it just crashed with a "game.exe has stopped working" error. Same thing happens if I try to launch the configuration via the old way (command line). Upgraded my drivers, tried adding the programs to DEP and it still happens. Is there a solution to this or is it because my laptop uses one of those weird Intel integrated graphics + NVidia cards?

Edit: Tried Homura, game shows "Now loading, don't insert coins" then goes to black and freezes.
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Thought I'd give this a go just to see. Worked first time with no issues at all. Looks great too. Only tried Riv however. Is there a western release of Riv onthe 360 or a region free game? If so I'd get it.
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Tigershark wrote:Thought I'd give this a go just to see. Worked first time with no issues at all. Looks great too. Only tried Riv however. Is there a western release of Riv onthe 360 or a region free game? If so I'd get it.
US release and Japan release. Both region-locked to their respected countries.
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