Checked out Star Wars: The Phantom Menace in 3D?

[Udderdude]

I found this amusing parody review of TPM in 3D on Rotten Tomatoes. http://theoohtray.com/2012/02/film-revi ... 3d-review/

[Stormwatch]

Aliens?

Alien. NOT Aliens.

I'll link it after work, but watch the scene from the clone wars cartoon where Grievous fights like 5 Jedi at once or the episode where he captures Palpatine, he's a total badass! I seriously don't understand why they nerfed him so hard in the movie

Because Genndy Tartakovsky is a much better director than George Lucas.

[Illyrian]

This is what I mean:

Look at this. LOOK AT THIS FUCKING BADASS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4

Now look at this cockwaffling bullshit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t551KML00no

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!

[Udderdude]

The apparent explanation for why he suddenly sucks balls in the prequel movies : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1UPccudqmU

[CMoon]

My god that is some horrible animation.

[Estebang]

Yeah, The Clone Wars cartoon is just depressing to look at. The animation itself isn't bad, but the art quality is the absolute bottom of the barrel. Grievous is just a bunch of shapes stacked together with precious little detail on them. Even something like Homestar Runner is more pleasing to look at.

I guess it could be worse; we could have marionette motion-tweened limbs in every scene.

[Skykid]

Aliens?

Alien. NOT Aliens.

No, Aliens. I was thinking of examples of impressive visual worlds with a lot of imagination, and LV426's nightmare planet is pretty beautifully composed. Alien is beautifully composed too, but they spend a lot more time inside the ship.

I found this amusing parody review of TPM in 3D on Rotten Tomatoes. http://theoohtray.com/2012/02/film-revi ... 3d-review/

Kind of brilliant.

"No-one had used a fully autistic cast before. We were moved. Many in my row wept. In a stroke you’d pioneered a new technique, full immersion for the audience, allowing them to project their own characters onto blanks."

[Ed Oscuro]

This is what I mean:

Look at this. LOOK AT THIS FUCKING BADASS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4

The simplistic animation style and slapstick expressions of Samurai Jack and Dexter's Lab were fine...in those cartoons. This just looks wrong.

Also lol @ Obi Wan's shiteating smirk and "so uncivilized," yep, I've never regretted not watching these films.

[Illyrian]

Yeah the animation is retarded, but the fight is awesome, which is the point.

[Ed Oscuro]

"The point" is that Genndy Tartakovsky characters are made up of about ten straight and curved lines and it's distracting as hell.

The fight itself isn't great either. Apparently people were REALLY infatuated with the idea that the Star Wars universe needed a fighting windmill. Sloppy as fuck, they just draw a big blue circle around him and that counts for a "badass fight scene." The few points where they have anybody doing anything vaguely interesting are half-second scenes padded out by annoying cliches like "bad guy landing kicks up a solid five second dust storm that our heroes must fight through!" Terrible.

[Illyrian]

You don't think him doing stuff like flipping onto his hands and fighting with his feet, and actually using the metallic nature of his body as an advantage is cool?

Aah well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it

[Estebang]

Grievous was just another cool-looking SW bad guy who failed to actually do anything of note, joining the ranks of Boba and Darth Maul.

[Skykid]

Yeah the animation is retarded, but the fight is awesome, which is the point.

No it's not, it's fine. I like the animation and style, it's handled well (makes a nice change from anime.)
The Clone Wars cartoon was generally better written, acted, and was more artistically pleasing than the actual SW prequels.

[Illyrian]

I like the actual battle animations but I think the characters look seriously derpy, especially Count Dooku. Yoda just looks silly in my opinion.

I personally liked, apart from the story which was good, that they exagerated the force powers a bit, so Dooku can actually fly and hover rather than just jumping really high, Mace Windu and Yoda trash lines of droids with the force etc.

Skykid, the point is compared to in the movie Grievous is a total boss in the anime and gets jobbed out to Obiwan Kenobi 1v1. It mostly felt like a missed opportunity with him in the movie as he is.

Edit: people used to theorise he was Darth Maul, a concept so ridiculous I don't even want to think about it.

[Skykid]

Skykid, the point is compared to in the movie Grievous is a total boss in the anime and gets jobbed out to Obiwan Kenobi 1v1. It mostly felt like a missed opportunity with him in the movie as he is.

The entire prequel trilogy is a missed opportunity. A half impressive General Grevious wouldn't have saved it from being a shambolic mess.

[burgerkingdiamond]

in the middle of watching the Plinkett reviews for the 2nd time. I love em.

[Illyrian]

Skykid, the point is compared to in the movie Grievous is a total boss in the anime and gets jobbed out to Obiwan Kenobi 1v1. It mostly felt like a missed opportunity with him in the movie as he is.

The entire prequel trilogy is a missed opportunity. A half impressive General Grevious wouldn't have saved it from being a shambolic mess.

I never said it would have

I simply said i was annoyed about that one element of that one movie! The prequel trilogy was like 90% bum cheddar in my opinion!

[Skykid]

Skykid, the point is compared to in the movie Grievous is a total boss in the anime and gets jobbed out to Obiwan Kenobi 1v1. It mostly felt like a missed opportunity with him in the movie as he is.

The entire prequel trilogy is a missed opportunity. A half impressive General Grevious wouldn't have saved it from being a shambolic mess.

I never said it would have

I simply said i was annoyed about that one element of that one movie! The prequel trilogy was like 90% bum cheddar in my opinion!

I was just sayin'.

[psoslayer]

Will there be Episode 2/3 in 3D as well

[Ed Oscuro]

You don't think him doing stuff like flipping onto his hands and fighting with his feet, and actually using the metallic nature of his body as an advantage is cool?

If I want to watch an ironically funny but still awesome boss fight, any of the Batman episodes from 13 years (at least) before this mess will do. Things can be self-conscious and funny without slipping past the line into total idiocy.

[Udderdude]

They must be dead by now. Destroy what's left of them.

>_>

[greg]

Lucas isn't an awful human being, and I believe he was still capable of making great movies before the prequels, but letting him have free reign over everything was a terrible, terrible decision. If they had gotten someone else to direct--hell, even J.J. Abrams--and ran every one of Lucas' ideas and scripts through a gauntlet of exacting editors (Jar Jar would have been shot down right away, among countless other embarrassments) I believe that the prequels could have been classics, or at least Trek-reboot-level competent films.

Lucas cries like a baby when editors take stuff out and force him to rethink things. He's said in interview after interview how pained he is seeing his "precious creations" or whatever he calls them being butchered by heartless people. He says he does not want any other creative inputs from others, yet it is so obvious that Gary Kurtz was the reason why Ep4 and 5 were the best in the series.

I also didn't mind episode 3 but only because it shows you a lot of important plot stuff that leads to eps. 4-5-6.

The Plinkett reviews helped me to remember all of the faults I found with the prequels, and they made me realize all the ways I tried to convince myself that they weren't that bad. But they really were, and I think many of us had better ideas of what could have transpired in the prequels than what we ended up with. Ironically, the worst I find fault with are Ep 2 and 3. For example, I always figured that the Clone Wars were supposed to be about the Republic being attacked by clones, since anyone taking on something as huge as the Republic would need to resort to something like clones. Maybe an army of badass Mandalorians in their armor (Boba/Jango Fett). The first time I saw AOTC, I kept thinking, "Wait, these clones are supposed to be the bad guys, right?" And at the end of the movie, they end up fighting for the republic, not against it. For another thing, I was rather offended at the idea that the Death Star was actually designed by a bunch of freaking insects and not Tarkin as was already established. Additionally, The entire trilogy failed to make Anakin Skywalker an interesting character at all, making his plight trivial. Nobody cares when tragedy besets foolish characters. Also, if we are to swallow the prequels as canon, then basically, we must accept the fact that everyone was tricked. It was all an elaborate prank. Having Palpatine pulling the strings to manipulate a farcical war was so stupid. It would have been much better for the Separitists to have a better motive than to just be led around by a shadowy, cloaked evil guy they've never even met in person who continually fails them. So the Separatists were duped into attacking the Republic (for whatever gain that would pose remains a mystery), and the Republic and the Jedi were tricked into accepting a clone army that just so happens to have been created by a forgery. Idiot Jar Jar Binks was manipulated to push for a vote for emergency powers for Palpatine to create an army, and oh look! Suddenly, it just so happens that here is an army of clones we can use!

I was mostly annoyed that in the cartoon series before episode 3 came out General Grievous was a total badass who destroyed 5 jedi at once, and I was looking forward to having a proper badass midmovie villian. Instead he just gets beat 1 on 1 in a plothole ridden mess against Obiwan Kenobi. Like seriously,

The Clone Wars cartoon (not the CG one) was way cooler than the 3 prequel movies combined. Maybe because it wasn't limited to actors standing in front of a green or blue screen and the limited range of movement that confines the action.

No other movie series in history, ever, has as much imagination and work put in their worlds as star wars films. Avatar by James Cameron is the lone example, and that got grilled to a crisp in the nerd forums because of the clicheed plot. And yes, I love that film too.

Oh come on. Avatar's Pandora is far more imaginative than the Star Wars locations. That's the main interest for movie, I think. Avatar had such a recycled plot and one dimensional antagonists, and facepalmingly bad Bush-era cliches such as "terrorists" and "shock and awe" that was so embarrassing to watch, yet it was still an enjoyable film.

First, Tattooine = Dune. There's no denying it. The most imaginative settings in all of the Star Wars movies were the Death Star, Cloud City, that one canyon hole city in Episode 3, and the underwater Gungan city. And there were some others shown at the tail end of Ep3 when all the Jedi were being murdered, but we only saw those for a few seconds each.

I'm not going to find fault with George Lucas for locations such as a desert planet, ice planet, or forest moon. While they are not a real stretch of the imagination (an ice planet was even featured in Star Crash, the lovely Roger Corman takeoff of Star Wars), they did add to the fantasy of the series, making it great. The original Star Wars trilogy had great, memorable characters. I think Obi Wan would have been an awesome character (he actually was in Ep1), but the image of Jedi being a bunch of celibate pricks really ruined the image of Jedi for me. So it's fine if they dismember bad guys, but it's not okay if they get married and enjoy the hair pie. Dumb.

[cj iwakura]

I was thinking back to the first time I saw Episode I, before everyone and their mother started reviling it.

I still remember getting chills when Maul showed up and Duel of the Fates kicked in.

Love or hate the film, that's an iconic moment. I think the prequels are suffering from a lot of... whatever the opposite of rose colored glasses perspective viewing is. There's a lot to make fun of, but they had their charms as well. Every film had at least one great scene. (More as they went along of course.)


I think the biggest failure for me was ruining Padme and Anakin's relationship in Episode II(that is making it laughable). If it had actually been handled well, it would've been a great arc.

I do think they had great chemistry in III, but that was a bit late.

[greg]

I agree, the prequels did have some nice moments. I liked the final battle scene with Darth Maul as well as the fight between Anakin and Obi Wan, even though those have been criticized. And you're right, the dialogue between Anakin and Padme was considerably better in Ep3, although it did have some cheesy "Romeo and Juliet"-style lines in it.

I think I was going to say something else, but I'm kinda drunk right now.

[Estebang]

cheesy "Romeo and Juliet"

That's an oxymoron. Don't forget you're talking about the Bard, now.

(Don't get me wrong, the Anakin/Padme dialogue in Sith was groan-inducing.)

[greg]

I think Romeo and Juliet is total crap, too. I dig Shakespeare, I guess, But that play is total crap. Like I said before about tragedy happening to fools, this play is nothing but idiocy. Check for a pulse next time before killing yourself, moron. Tybalt was the only interesting character in the play, and he dies halfway through. Romeo and Juliet was a gagfest, and I hate how it's made out to be such a wonderful love story. If you've seen the '60s movie of Romeo and Juliet, it's obvious that Romeo is just smitten by her cleavage.

[Ed Oscuro]

(Don't get me wrong, the Anakin/Padme dialogue in Sith was groan-inducing.)

Yeah, I walked through a room a few times when that movie was on, and it just sped me on my way. So bad it frightened me.

[cj iwakura]

(Don't get me wrong, the Anakin/Padme dialogue in Sith was groan-inducing.)

Yeah, I walked through a room a few times when that movie was on, and it just sped me on my way. So bad it frightened me.

Compared to Episode II, it was Shakespeare.

Only so much good actors can do with horrible dialogue, and they sure tried.



Episode III was Ian McDiarmid's time. My favorite scene was the one with Palpatine and Anakin in the theater.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Will there be Episode 2/3 in 3D as well

Yep, George Lucas has plans to re-release the five remaining SW flicks in digital 3D format...to be determined at a later date, of course.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Skykid]

Will there be Episode 2/3 in 3D as well

Yep, George Lucas has plans to re-release the five remaining SW flicks in digital 3D format...to be determined at a later date, of course.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Five?

Well I might go and see the originals. I'll just squint a bit when Greedo shoots first and Hayden Dickmunchson turns up at the end of Jedi.