Anyone else feeling the Daifukkatsu meh?

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I can't stand the flooding of boxes bonus.
this game could have black screen level under them we wouldn't notice it.
I get it that it's like pachinko gambling madness or something but I regret the time where you could actually appreciate level design instead of just massive rainbows popping up.
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Screw CAVE! (With the solely exception of Guwange.)
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Anyone else feeling the Arcade Legends 3 meh?
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Definitely not up to our usual shitposter quality.
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BIL wrote:Definitely not up to our usual shitposter quality.
He's on par with rocketassistedkea. Give the guy some credit.

The post where he talked about Bulgarian porno magazines was funny.
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Eh, he certainly has a lack of creativity, and an odd passion to express the same thing over and over, as if its going to get everyone here to rage.

The "1944: The Loop Master" avatar is pretty hilarious though
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Arcade Legends 3 is my favorite poster.
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Gus wrote:Arcade Legends 3 is my favorite poster.
I prefer the style of the KeithSomataw's and Dr TP's to "give me a fuckpillow so I can SCREW CAVE"
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RNGmaster wrote:He's on par with rocketassistedkea.
Nah, that guy was something else. Such a dreamer, so sensitive and delicate in the face of hard-nosed shmup discussion. Very entertaining to watch him fumble around the various threads espousing his artistic merits and half-baked shooter ideas :)
He's one of my favourite posters, although I don't think he comes here anymore because of all the backlash :cry:
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Arcade Legends 3 wrote:Screw CAVE!
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Arcade Legends 3 wrote:(With the solely exception of Guwange.)
:D

Before you guys go on reminicising about other trolls, the question you should REALLY be asking is: what happened to Arcade Legends 1 & 2?

They might be just waiting to pounce on us with their rage guise! :O
So long as they don't touch the Seibu games I probably won't mind though.
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Not sure which game to play tonight. I could give this another go but every time I play it I just feel a sense of boredom that comes from being washed off the screen by impossible waves of bullets. I've had DFK for about 6 months and I estimate I've played no more than an hour of it, such is the "meh" it induces within me.

That leaves me with pork/sweets, AKS, Futari, DS, ESP2, and DOJ. I wonder if I can tolerate any of those for long enough to get back into them.

I've bought myself Ketsui, DS2 and Shiki3 for xmas so I'm looking forward to a stress free Christmas and a resumption to posting on these forums shortly afterwards. :wink:
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:I've bought myself Ketsui...
DrTrouserPlank wrote:...looking forward to a stress free Christmas and a resumption to posting on these forums shortly afterwards.
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Oh boy this thread got resurrected :roll:
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:Not sure which game to play tonight. I could give this another go but every time I play it I just feel a sense of boredom that comes from being washed off the screen by impossible waves of bullets. I've had DFK for about 6 months and I estimate I've played no more than an hour of it, such is the "meh" it induces within me.
1 hour of a game and you are passing judgement? wtf? you are looking at a good 40+ hours before you can really get a feel for a shmup imo and until you really learn some strategy in both surviving and scoring how can you really know if its any good or not?.
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Vamos wrote: 1 hour of a game and you are passing judgement? wtf? you are looking at a good 40+ hours before you can really get a feel for a shmup imo and until you really learn some strategy in both surviving and scoring how can you really know if its any good or not?.
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Vamos wrote:
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Not sure which game to play tonight. I could give this another go but every time I play it I just feel a sense of boredom that comes from being washed off the screen by impossible waves of bullets. I've had DFK for about 6 months and I estimate I've played no more than an hour of it, such is the "meh" it induces within me.
1 hour of a game and you are passing judgement? wtf? you are looking at a good 40+ hours before you can really get a feel for a shmup imo and until you really learn some strategy in both surviving and scoring how can you really know if its any good or not?.
I think asking someone to invest 40 hours into something in order to be able to pass judgment on whether or not it is good is asking a little much. Surely a "good" game should hook you and make you want to play more? As it is this game feels tedious. It feels like another example of how to remove as many coins from a player's pocket as quickly as possible by ranking the difficulty up from pretty hard to ridiculous very quickly.

The only shmup that I have invested your suggested amount of time in is Futari, and the results of that are well documented in the Futari thread.
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:Surely a "good" game should hook DrTrouserPlank and make him want to play more?
Well, at least futari is good then.

@Aguraki: why would you revive this thread :(
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>remove coins from your pocket as quickly as possible
>autobomb, 6 bombs, bullet cancelling hypers, super friendly hitbox

pick one
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Is that a false dichotomy in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me
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Zaarock wrote:
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Surely a "good" game should hook DrTrouserPlank and make him want to play more?
Well, at least futari is good then.
I wouldn't go that far.
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:
Vamos wrote:
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Not sure which game to play tonight. I could give this another go but every time I play it I just feel a sense of boredom that comes from being washed off the screen by impossible waves of bullets. I've had DFK for about 6 months and I estimate I've played no more than an hour of it, such is the "meh" it induces within me.
1 hour of a game and you are passing judgement? wtf? you are looking at a good 40+ hours before you can really get a feel for a shmup imo and until you really learn some strategy in both surviving and scoring how can you really know if its any good or not?.
I think asking someone to invest 40 hours into something in order to be able to pass judgment on whether or not it is good is asking a little much. Surely a "good" game should hook you and make you want to play more? As it is this game feels tedious. It feels like another example of how to remove as many coins from a player's pocket as quickly as possible by ranking the difficulty up from pretty hard to ridiculous very quickly.

The only shmup that I have invested your suggested amount of time in is Futari, and the results of that are well documented in the Futari thread.
No. Just as in music and movies, there are SHOWers and GROWers. There are instances where one may not like something right away, but over time one may GROW to like it. I thought that was the case with Strike Witches, but that game really is godawful and gets worse with time 8)
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xbl0x180 wrote:
No. Just as in music and movies, there are SHOWers and GROWers. There are instances where one may not like something right away, but over time one may GROW to like it. I thought that was the case with Strike Witches, but that game really is godawful and gets worse with time 8)
I see, so I really need to put in the hours with these games in order to decide that I really don't like them. Maybe I should pre-emptively apply Minoxidil before starting in order to negate the copious amounts of hair loss through it being pulled out in frustration?

Futari and AKS managed to piss me off no end, so I'll look forward to spending an equally long and frustrating time with the next one I choose. I'm in a mind to give Espgaluda 2 a proper go because that has yet to annoy me. Futari I've written off, and the latter quarter of AKS is impossible.
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Zaarock wrote: @Aguraki: why would you revive this thread :(
Legendary thread is legendary, why the tears?

Try to keep it on topic though folks.

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Arcade Legends 3 wrote:Screw CAVE! (With the solely exception of Guwange.)
AHHHHHHH D: haters gonna hate? cave is my lover<3
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DrTrouserPlank wrote: I'm in a mind to give Espgaluda 2 a proper go because that has yet to annoy me. Futari I've written off, and the latter quarter of AKS is impossible.
This will end well. Please keep us up to date on your Galuda 2 adventures. (No sarcasm; it will surely be entertaining)
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Bananamatic wrote:>remove coins from your pocket as quickly as possible
>autobomb, 6 bombs, bullet cancelling hypers, super friendly hitbox

pick one

Yeah, I don't get it. DoDonPachi Resurrection babies the fuck out of it's players between the bombs and hypers. Aside from Stage 5, the game doesn't really get hard until you try playing for score or looping it.

DrTrouserPlank wrote:Not sure which game to play tonight. I could give this another go but every time I play it I just feel a sense of boredom that comes from being washed off the screen by impossible waves of bullets. I've had DFK for about 6 months and I estimate I've played no more than an hour of it, such is the "meh" it induces within me.
Well, it's more fun if you dodge the bullets, and they're easier to dodge if you stop assuming it is impossible.

Also, if you only played the game for an hour, what did you put in? Like two credits? Hardly enough time to try a variety of ships and styles, much less repeat one and begin developing strategies or learning stage layouts.


I would agree with previous comments that most shoot-em-ups are "growers" and become more interesting as you learn more and get better.
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:Futari and AKS managed to piss me off no end, so I'll look forward to spending an equally long and frustrating time with the next one I choose. I'm in a mind to give Espgaluda 2 a proper go because that has yet to annoy me. Futari I've written off, and the latter quarter of AKS is impossible.
So why exactly do you keep buying these games again?
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NzzpNzzp wrote:So why exactly do you keep buying these games again?
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Surely a "good" game should hook DrTrouserPlank and make him want to play more?
I guess that means cave games are objectively good, cool.
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NzzpNzzp wrote:
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Futari and AKS managed to piss me off no end, so I'll look forward to spending an equally long and frustrating time with the next one I choose. I'm in a mind to give Espgaluda 2 a proper go because that has yet to annoy me. Futari I've written off, and the latter quarter of AKS is impossible.
So why exactly do you keep buying these games again?
Because I find that they have a very calming and positive influence on my mood.

In seriousness, I suppose it's because (in theory) I enjoy shooters. My problem has been that they seem to take on an impossible level of difficulty shortly after the third stage, and I don't get any enjoyment from dying repeatedly on a section that is clearly designed to rob you of money rather than simply be a section which is difficult to navigate.
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Zaarock wrote:
NzzpNzzp wrote:So why exactly do you keep buying these games again?
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Surely a "good" game should hook DrTrouserPlank and make him want to play more?
I guess that means cave games are objectively good, cool.
It's not the word I would choose.
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