Japan is really going overboard with this moe thing

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Or he's just a troll.
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RNGmaster wrote:Please give us a rundown. I know you're dying to start a "Cuilan is a sick fuck Mark 2" thread, so just go ahead.

I'm imagining futanari, most of Boku no Pico, and maybe some Waita Uziga for good measure.

Edit: You already posted some, but I mean the other stuff.
Boku no Pico technically isn't a manga (though the character designer, Saigadou, did release a couple of semi-official doujins), and I'm not really in to Uziga's stuff.

But honestly, would you be surprised if I had futanari or stuff similar to Boku no Pico? Of course not, and that's why I only listed the "out of character" titles I have.
I'm always surprised by weird pr0n stash. Like I sometimes wonder what Andy Warhol's stash was comprised of when he bequeathed it on his will. Anyway, just the fact it's pr0n... in comic book form :!: should be surprising. I got rid of most of that s*** when I moved to college, except for a few artists whose designs I like. I figure I could probably get away with saying they're "erotica" art rather than out-and-out pornography - classic junk, yet still utterly perverted (included with stuff such as Milo Manara's and Moebius's comics, as well as Egon Schiele albums) 8)
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ChainsawGuitarSP wrote:
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greg wrote:It's either your theory is true, or he's just bored out of his skull and feels the need to read every single topic on this forum. Either scenario is rather lame.
Or he just likes poking fun at otaku nerds for the lolz.
He'd still have to be bored out of his skull to even bother doing that so consistently. :roll:
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Skykid wrote:That poor woman should have upped and left ages ago instead of suffering out an existence with that twat.
Quite literally nowhere to go. Shes from rural Japan, and he was a rich city boy. I think she was 15-16 and he was mid-20's when they got married. Her parents practically sold her to him and said "don't come back" because divorce would have been the ultimate shame. If she had left or displeased him in anyway she would have been out on the streets with literally nowhere to go. She didn't finish H.S. and has no skills other than being a housewife. Really a sad life, but it's a lot more common than you would believe.
It's not unfortunately.

I'm not a Japanese resident, but I'm also not a one-sided Japanophile who chooses to go uneducated on the social aspects. I certainly don't resent Japan for being itself, but I do pity the folk who value shame to a fault.
It's certainly no capitalist haven, that's for sure. I think Hong Kong is the apex when it comes to a profit led system as it works to fundamentally serve and encourage its people.
Hahaha. Hell, some of those cultural values were transferred even when they emigrated here to the U.S. and have lived here for generations. Seriously, trying to date an Asian girl when you're not Asian (or white) is like the ultimate in "shame" for them. Their parents, their siblings, their friends will flip out... although that may also apply to Jewish peeps 8)
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xbl0x180 wrote:Hahaha. Hell, some of those cultural values were transferred even when they emigrated here to the U.S. and have lived here for generations. Seriously, trying to date an Asian girl when you're not Asian (or white) is like the ultimate in "shame" for them. Their parents, their siblings, their friends will flip out... although that may also apply to Jewish peeps 8)
My parents would be pissed if my sister dated any other than an asian lol and they've been here since their teens.

Although I always thought it wasn't just an asian thing, but many other races do this as well.
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It was kinda messed up when you're, like, one outta three "mexicans" in every class at a university: 40% East Asian (Japanese, Corean, and Chinese), 50% white, 10% Middle Eastern and Indian, and zilch for everyone else. I felt like a f****** martian then and there, so I can only imagine how much more intensified this would be if I was in, say, a Japanese or Corean university, esp. since I value "acceptance" and "camaraderie" more than anything else :twisted:
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Although I always thought it wasn't just an asian thing, but many other races do this as well.
The difference is that Asians whom have immigrated are famous for it... even down to a preference of nationality. If you want your kids to marry an Asian, don't fucking move from Asia. No?
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GaijinPunch wrote: The difference is that Asians whom have immigrated are famous for it... even down to a preference of nationality. If you want your kids to marry an Asian, don't fucking move from Asia. No?
Italian immigrants in Germany traditionally asked their offspring to marry other people from the same region. Sicilian in Stuttgart? Marry another sicilian, please!

Immigrants tend to be more conservative, both politicaly and about their own traditions, the more they are marginalised, or have to move and do menial, low-class jobs. Usually immigrants move to one place and keep the habits/social traits of when they move, and stagnate. The Guidi of Jersey shore perfectly represent a low-class italian youth of...40 years ago?

Asians tend to fall in this category a little bit more than other groups. It's easier to pass as Anglo-Saxon (and learn English) if one is actually German or Dutch, than if one is Thai. So, they tend to form close, conservative communities than others. It doesn't help than in most countries there is zip interest in integrating immigrants, to put it in a mild form.

After all, one can pretend to "celebrate cultures and diversities" to appease the PC-obssessed scum, and then spend less for education of immigrant and immigrant children, allow people not to challenge themselves and learn another language, allow companies to pay less workers that are less integrated insofar as they employ them and pay them, etc.

After all, being working class and at the bottom of the peking order in say, Australia is much better than being fucking poor in Cambodia. In case, you can live in a cambodian suburb where people help each other in time of need. So, the question arises: is the white man after exotic pussy, if he wants the cambodian girl? Will he help, in time of need? And who we blame for this, the white man or the cambodian woman who, being a woman, can be easily stigmatized as a slut, as soon as she thinks by herself?



(The white woman wouldn't get the cambodian cock, they usually crave BBC).
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I've known dozens of Chinese families with kids and not one of the kids from them was pressured to marry other Chinese. I've certainly heard about this preference before though so as Randorama suggested, this concept likely resides mostly in the fob culture, since new immigrants tend to intermingle predominantly with like people. If you ever research marriage demographics, you'll find that there are noticeable differences between US-raised foreigners and foreigners who never attended grade school here (or perhaps the differences are actually in free-spirited parents who arrive in their 20-30s as opposed to conservative parents who finally came in their 40-50s). Here's a site that analyzes interracial marriage as it pertains to Asians: http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml
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While we are ion the topic of inter racial marriage, im curious as to how it is with non middle eastern Muslims IE Indonesia know that with the Pakistani community where I live. Inter-racial marriage is acceptable only if the outsider becomes a Muslim.

My guess is that this would be the same with other deeply religious communities everywhere
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I don't think it has to do with how deeply religious a person is nor is it limited to islam and the other religions of abraham. It's just one more thing to contend with in trying to find people you jibe with 8)
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Interracial marriages can be great but if it doesn't work well it can partly hurt the kids in the long run.

I'm half Israeli (from father) and half Guyanese (from mother). The marriage didn't last out since my mother side was 100% oppose for my mother to marry someone outside of their race. After three or so years the marriage ended and my early childhood I lived with my mother's family. It was hell since I wasn't fully one of them I was treated differently (I was known as the jew kid by them). Lets just say that seeing the poor immigrants listening to shitty indian party music drinking piss water made me said WTF at a really early age.

I later lived with my father since my mother remarried to someone in her own race (which also said I'm sorry I marry someone who's not my race, here's the perfect man) and I more or less got kicked out of the house (we don't want this jewkid around). Later in life I just say said screw it and cut all ties from that family (which was getting close to seven years ago).

Living with my father wasn't perfect either since I wasn't 100% jewish like my father (and time to time he did say insults in my fact saying that fact). One of the best things that he did was play music like Fleetwood Mac, Johnny Clash, Bee Gees and more (it help me to be really into music later in my life.)

The biggest downside of all of this is that I have no culture group. I don't hang out with a group of people. Just about all my Asian buddies hang out with their own kind, some of my friends who are black hang out with their own kind. With me being from two different backgrounds and not fully accepted by both sides I'm just like a lone wolf most of the time.

At least being born in America I don't have to take my father side or my mother side culturally. I just tell people I'm American and you don't need to know anything else about me.
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I think this is an older trend though. Or at least Americans have the right idea for a change. Most people in my age group +/- 10 years or so seem to be very open to the idea that if they live abroad, their children will be marrying into the general population. But, again, this is just based on my personal experience.
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Nowadays, this cultural value is more prevalent/obvious with Coreans living here in Southern California and it tapers with other East Asian nationalities. It's probably not as big of an issue if the person is white; anyone other than white is flatly unacceptable.
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xbl0x180 wrote:Nowadays, this cultural value is more prevalent/obvious with Coreans living here in Southern California and it tapers with other East Asian nationalities. It's probably not as big of an issue if the person is white; anyone other than white is flatly unacceptable.
It's the so-called Pinkerton Syndrome. Again, white men=power, money, control etc., in the eyes of poor asian immigrants.
GP wrote:Or at least Americans have the right idea for a change. Most people in my age group +/- 10 years or so seem to be very open to the idea that if they live abroad, their children will be marrying into the general population.
All of them white? So, that their children will be perceived as possibly good prizes for marriage, in a "asian country with little immigration" scenario? Or, alternatively, all from mixed backgrounds, so that they already grown up in an "immigrant" context in which certain problems have been overcome, for good or bad?
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GaijinPunch wrote:The difference is that Asians whom have immigrated are famous for it... even down to a preference of nationality. If you want your kids to marry an Asian, don't fucking move from Asia. No?

Yeah, but barbarians like you, Rancor, and myself go to their country to steal their women away from them.
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A few reasons why I was open to dating outside of my race is that there are more educated, gainfully employed, and girls who shared interests [with me] who happen to be white and Asian. Suffice to say, the feeling is generally not mutual; it's one of the instances when I've wished to be "plain," "normal," and "average," so I wouldn't have to be the odd man out. Otherwise, if I was looking to date Latin American girls, I'd have to travel thousands of miles all the way to South America.
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All of them white? So, that their children will be perceived as possibly good prizes for marriage, in a "asian country with little immigration" scenario?
Some black. The whole "half kids are awesome" thing is a bit of a myth. Half kids = not Japanese kids. They face all the discrimination of a full gaijin, but with the ability to understand and communicate on (likely) the same level. I think we're talking about two different demographics here. One that left their country for hopes and dreams in another. And people that temporarily (but still long term) left their country b/c an opportunity arose somewhere else.

Also, that whole "all Americans are immigrants if you look at the last couple hundred years" thing needs to be looked at, no?
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