Cave Shooting Game (Vita)

[Elixir]

Vita's lineup for launch is impressive. Unfortunately I can't see myself buying any of these. The only game which takes my interest here is Disgaea 3, which I already own, and barely played. After having started Disgaea 4 lately it's evident that it's better than 3 in every way.

As for the Cave game, eh. I'm not interested. I'll most likely buy a Vita but it'll never be for fighters or shmups.

[Estebang]

No one's interested in the Ys IV remake Falcom announced?

[Bananamatic]

No one's interested in the Ys IV remake Falcom announced?

played VI and it was pretty boss

haven't found any others, seems like a cool series overall

[Estebang]

XSeed finished localizing all the PSP Ys games (and the first Trails in the Sky) this year, so you're all set!

I recommend starting with the remakes of I & II, even if you've played them on PC-Engine. Most of the bosses would pass unchanged in a shmup!

[Skykid]

That's three appendages interacting with the game simultaneously. You could have special challenges like mustering a boner on cue, or a ball slap bomb!

and you spin it quickly to focus fire

just like psyvariar

Or you can flip your hips and thwack it with your dong to swing your club in Everybody's Golf 19.

[Estebang]

Can we hope for a port of Cho Aniki PS2 with a faithful application of the Masturbation Cannon?

[Cuilan]

If it's something original, then I'm betting it's something Deathsmiles-related. I doubt it's a true sequel though.

[Skykid]

Can we hope for a port of Cho Aniki PS2 with a faithful application of the Masturbation Cannon?

Zing! Now you're getting it!

"Angry Birds: Phallus Edition -

Use your manhood as the catapult without obscuring the Vita screen. Just massage until hard, place on the back of the Vita, pull to the left to set the catapult to desired tension, and release!"

[Sumez]

I'm not quite sure what you mean Sumez, so I'll clarify what I was on about. Super Stardust Vita had some awesome touches, like being able to 'pinch' asteroids through the device (a finger on the back touch screen and a thumb on the front one) to destroy them. LittleBigPlanet on the Vita made great use of the rear touch 'screen' and super tight tilt sensitivity too. I have faith Cave could do something great with the Vita.

Don't get me wrong, I think stuff like that sounds fun.. but in a Cave shooter?

[dcharlie]

Played Vita at TGS today - no Cave builds there yet of course

tried :

Ridge - um... same old track, frame rate struggling to hit 30 so pretty obviously early build, nice DOF effect though, looked about on par with PS3 version in terms of shaders etc, car models lacked a bit of texturing, no rear view/mirror. Work to be done

Wipeout 2048 - massive wipeout nut , 30fps :/ but at least smooth and looked throughly gorgeous going through a city scape then arching up to take in some very nice looking cloudy skyline. Speed up bumps now harder to see - no new weapons that i came across. Lots of different branching paths. Again - outside frame rate (that -might- get bumped yet) wouldn't look out of place on PS3

Overal - machine seems great. A bit bigger than i expected, though the sticks and face buttons felt a bit too small. Hopefully that gets resolved closer to launch

[Phoenix]

I really cant wait for the Vita.

This sounds strange, or maybe not on a shmup forum, but i cant wait to play Phoenix and galaga on that handheld.

Old games, but on that screen, is just an epic win.

[kid aphex]

Played Vita at TGS today - no Cave builds there yet of course

tried :

Ridge - um... same old track, frame rate struggling to hit 30 so pretty obviously early build, nice DOF effect though, looked about on par with PS3 version in terms of shaders etc, car models lacked a bit of texturing, no rear view/mirror. Work to be done

Wipeout 2048 - massive wipeout nut , 30fps :/ but at least smooth and looked throughly gorgeous going through a city scape then arching up to take in some very nice looking cloudy skyline. Speed up bumps now harder to see - no new weapons that i came across. Lots of different branching paths. Again - outside frame rate (that -might- get bumped yet) wouldn't look out of place on PS3

Overal - machine seems great. A bit bigger than i expected, though the sticks and face buttons felt a bit too small. Hopefully that gets resolved closer to launch

...Anything else to say about RR? The trailer looked like they were going for something new and weird, so everything you said is a bit disappointing.

[Bananamatic]

it's Ridge Racer!


RIDGE RACER!

[Casper<3]

are we really getting no more 360 shmups for the rest of 2011?

:/ come on cave! Ibara Black Label, Mushi New Version. ...there still stuff we want! DS Iphone DLC.

[dcharlie]

...Anything else to say about RR? The trailer looked like they were going for something new and weird, so everything you said is a bit disappointing.

i have long since learned to never trust anything Namco says about Ridge. I recall the famitsu interview saying XX new tracks! Which turned out to be completely crap :/

Strangely, RR:Unbounded is actually something new - but it's a step in the wrong direction. All we want is a complete set of new tracks - and since Ridge Racer 6 we're getting them in 1-2 drabs.

[bcass]

are we really getting no more 360 shmups for the rest of 2011?

:/ come on cave! Ibara Black Label, Mushi New Version. ...there still stuff we want! DS Iphone DLC.

The plundering of the remainder of the back catalogue is inevitable IMO.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Hrm, I've got no plans to buy a Vita, especially at launch price. I just don't find it that interesting.

I even found the 3DS a little more appealing, and I don't have one of those.

Well, for the U.S. 3DS market, Nintendo wisely added Netflix app to be able to watch stuff via streaming. I'm surprised that Netflix doesn't even have their own dedicated portable player device anyways. Plus, there are plans for Netflix to deliver 3D streaming content via the 3DS later on down the road. Of course, NF has a business deal on-going with both Sony and Microsoft with their gaming console platforms as well. Sony refuses to discuss the business deal partnership with NF for it's streaming services through it's PS3 and dedicated Blu-Ray player devices.

Cool to hear that Cave is finally working on a new shmup IP for a new portable handheld. Whatever it takes to bring out a new shmup IP to the genre.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Estebang]

The 360 is practically comatose in Japan now, I think it's safe to guess that Cave's done with it.

[ptoing]

That would be sad :/

[Fudoh]

Can't find the thread right now, but I think it has been confirmed that they still work on the 360.

I can't imagine them upgrading anymore games to hi-res, but every classic compilation would guarantee at least 6000+ units, so they would be just passing an oportunity to make some easy money. Dangun Feveron, Ibara Collection, Mushihimesama Collection - come on, Cave!

[ptoing]

Also I am sure they have an established fanbase now which already owns 360s, in Japan as well as outside. They would at least have some sure sales. I am hoping for the best.

[BulletMagnet]

Can't find the thread right now, but I think it has been confirmed that they still work on the 360.

Yeah, I recall them stating that they'd continue to put stuff out in the arcades and on the 360, at least to some degree.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Theres been a shitload of shmups released this past year I expect they are gonna sit it out for the rest of this year and will be back next year when weve had our fill and are hungry for more.

I was about to say that they might be staying away from console due to the sheer amount of game that are releasing atm, but im not too sure if Japan is going though the same thing. However releasing games in the first 6 or 7 months of the year means they wont get burried under all the other games that release in the run up to xmas

[Estebang]

I think Cave will do one more 360 shmup port, then call it quits, aside from another visual novel or two. The 360 will probably start to be phased out in Japan by the end of next year--some retailers have already stopped carrying it. I think it's just that everyone who'd want one already owns one.

It's nice that I can say they don't have many options left--it'd just be XBLA Feveron, an Ibara/Kuro double pack, or maybe XBLA Esprade. Maybe a pack of the Uo Pokos, if they were feeling insane. I don't think they see a need for more Espgaluda 1/Mushi 1 ports.

[bcass]

I think Cave will do one more 360 shmup port, then call it quits, aside from another visual novel or two. The 360 will probably start to be phased out in Japan by the end of next year--some retailers have already stopped carrying it. I think it's just that everyone who'd want one already owns one.

Which is way more than Cave need to keep profiting from it. There are over a million 360 owners in Japan, with Cave selling on average 20K to 30K per title. They've obviously been profiting from that otherwise they wouldnt' have released so many in such a short period.

It's nice that I can say they don't have many options left--it'd just be XBLA Feveron, an Ibara/Kuro double pack, or maybe XBLA Esprade. Maybe a pack of the Uo Pokos, if they were feeling insane. I don't think they see a need for more Espgaluda 1/Mushi 1 ports.

Dont' forget Donpachi/Dodonpachi. I seriously doubt we'll see anything else from Cave on XBLA although I can see them maybe releasing stuff (maybe double packs) straight to Games On Demand.

[Zorator]

I don't think they see a need for more Espgaluda 1/Mushi 1 ports.

Perhaps they will wise up and port the 1.5 version of Mushi that came out a few months ago. They made enough changes to warrant a wide release, plus the PS2 port is generally seen as unsatisfactory. I think due to Futari's popularity a Mushi double pack would be more likely than an Ibara one.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Is there any shmups from any dev that have been announced for release for next year? I cant think of one. So im kinda hoping that Cave will give us a derth of 360 STGs. (next year)

If we get to December and there hasnt been one 2012 game announcement from any shmup devs then im gonna start getting worried

Actually another double pack would make sense. Although it would need a bit of more content as MMP and PS was abit barerift for me. Putting the extra content as pre order DLC when it needed to be on the disk kinda sucked as I dont have it. All Cave need to do is create atleast one extra mode (thats good) for each game, make sure they get the screen options right and dont fuck anything else up and im a happy chappy.

Although I have both Futari and EspGaluda 2 I wouldnt mind owning a PAL Mushihimisama Original & Futari along with the new 1.5 arrange mode. Same as I would buy a PAL Esp Galuda 1 & 2 with all the extras on disc or cheap DLC. I havnt bothered with any of the CAVE dlc yet but isnt it all priced at 1200 msp?

[Moniker]

Vita is confirmed region-free: http://www.destructoid.com/confirmed-pl ... 1620.phtml

Guess that settles my personal 3DS/Vita debate.

[Elixir]

Vita is confirmed region-free: http://www.destructoid.com/confirmed-pl ... 1620.phtml

Guess that settles my personal 3DS/Vita debate.

Actually it was confirmed months ago, before the 3DS price drop.

[spadgy]

I haven't got any industry insider knowledge or anything (and could well be wrong), but I get a sense Cave are far from done; as a business and with shmups. Their current focus seems to be on further increasing global reach, so 2012 might be something of a fallow year for STGs in general, but I doubt they'll drop the genre quite yet.